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tsmoha
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The Tour of Vancouver has become an iconic race in the ProContinental circuit and goes into it's 5th edition this year. Past race-winner are Timofey Kritskiy (2013), Janez Brajkovic (2014), Alberto Contador (2015) and Riccardo Ricco (2016). It's been several thrilling editions with close battles for the yellow jersey and the race directors are proud to announce the 5th anniversary of the event in Canada's 150th anniversary year. The HC event will once again welcome a packed startlist with the division's best climbers lining up. The goal is clear: winning the Tour of Vancouver is surely one of the highlights for the teams attending, so here we are for hopefully another entertaining edition of this beautiful race.

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All stages start in the heart of Vancouver, British Columbia, one of the most beautiful cities in the world. The race kicks off with a short, but steep mountain timetrial up the Simon Fraser University Hill in Burnaby. The next two stages will be circuit races in Richmond and Coquitlam, mostly flat, but with some tricky climbs, that probably won't hurt the sprinters too much though.. The fourth stage will feature the first summit finish: Cypress, in Northern Vancouver. The climb is "just" 6% in average, but due to it's length, it will definitely give the top-favourites a chance for a late attack.. After another flat circuit race (in Surrey), which may be the hardest of the three flat stages, we will hit another summit finish: the queen-stage up the Mount Seymour! And last, but not least, the riders face a 18km flat TTT in Western Vancouver, that may give a weaker climber the chance to improve in GC.

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The fight for yellow should be once again fascinating to follow and we have to start the preview with one of the most unlucky riders in the history of the event: pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png Intxausti finished the race as 2nd for two-times. Last year, he fell short by 4 seconds on Ricco. And in 2014, the unlucky Spaniard finished just 2 seconds behind race winner Brajkovic! That's definitely as close as you could possibly lose on yellow, so the the winner of last year's points and mountain classification finally wants to slip into yellow on the final stage here.

The clear favorite though is pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png Amador. Being the best climber of all GC contenders, coming with a nice prologue stat as well, he's also part of the second strongest TTT lineup here. There's almost no excuse for Amador to not finish on the podium (like he did last year as 3rd), but he's obviously aiming for the very top of the podest here.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/min.png Úran, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ers.png Kudus, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png Marquez/Nazaret, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png Eastman and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png Shikai as the remaining top favorites then. Úran (5th in 2016) has one of the more solid TTT lineups behind him, but there's a clear gap to Team UBS. He's still the most promising rider behind Amador/Intxausti.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png Roglic deserves a special mention, as Generali brought an insane TTT setup to support their captain as much as possible. While he's not amongst the best climbers, he will surely hope to limit the losses on the two mountain stages to gain back some valuable time in the concluding TTT. A few more names could surprise: Ji, Ratiy, Van den Broeck or Costagli as maybe the more promising names to fight for a Top-10 in the GC.

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pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png Keukeleire and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png Silvestre top the list of the sprinters, as they manage to survive hills in a solid fashion. The list doesn't feature the division's best sprinters, but we may look forward to some extraordinary close decisions anyway.

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png Guardini, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png Moser and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png Bouhanni complete the list of the top favorites for sprints. But we should also expect some surprises on three kinda tricky flat stages: Aregger, Pelucchi, Park? Maybe even some less strong sprinters like Zardini or Meyer fancy their chances for the most challenging flat stage later in the race.

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Kudus won't just fight for yellow, but also for the young rider competition. Shikai and Eastman as his biggest challengers, which should make for a thrilling battle until the final stage. Stancu, Kozhatayev and maybe Senni or Iturria with some outsiders' chances to somehow join this fight, even though it looks hard to achieve.

Hard to predict, who's going to fight for the KoM honours. Even more, since the race will most probably see one of the GC contenders taking the jersey. But anything can happen in a stage race, so attacking guys like Bartl, Martinez, Frank or Shapira may have a shot at this jersey afterall. As said though, with two hard mountaintop finishes and only minor mountain sprints in addition to those, this prediction is rather for the fun of it.

The full startlist:

#team ubs#minions#eritel - sonatrach
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5pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png frank15pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/min.png manarelli25pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ers.png hategeka
6pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png goncalves16pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/min.png martinez26pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ers.png kiflay
7pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png ivars17pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/min.png pantano gómez27pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ers.png reguigui
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32pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png brenes42pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png bartl52pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png gilanipoor
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34pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png manulang44pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png chiarello54pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png hayakawa
35pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png moser45pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png marquez55pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png hiratsuka
36pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png richardson46pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png nazaret56pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png mutsumine
37pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png russo47pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png silva57pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png shirota
38pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ino.png signorini48pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bgc.png vilela58pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png tsuboki
#fablok - bank bgz#generali - edf#haute route
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62pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png berard72pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png beukeboom82pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png barbari
63pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png bialoblocki73pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png boaro83pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png ben youcef
64pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png bodnar74pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png ghyselinck84pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png girdlestone
65pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png feillu75pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png ovechkin85pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png grmay
66pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png nareklishvili76pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png roglic86pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png konte
67pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png poljanski77pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png rolland87pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png samwel
68pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png shapira78pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png sterbini88pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png vervaeke
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91pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png eastman101pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png king111pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png bouhanni
92pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png briceno102pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png iturria112pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png anton martin
93pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png mannion103pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png palyi113pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png d fernandez
94pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png ochoa quintero104pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png pomoshnikov114pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png r fernandez
95pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png osorio105pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png ratiy115pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png izagirre
96pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png richardson106pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png sipos116pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png mollema
97pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png squire107pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png stancu117pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png van den broeck
98pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png stetina108pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png van winden118pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png zardini
#lierse sk - pizza ullo#compal - merida#ticos air costa rica
121pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png pelucchi131pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png meyer141pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png chamorra
122pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png cerny132pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png ji142pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png costagli
123pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png dall'oste133pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png jiao143pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png gonzales cortes
124pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png moscon134pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png kozhatayev144pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png jeannesson
125pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png senni135pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png lane145pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png morales
126pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png stuyven136pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png ma146pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png ortega
127pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png umerbekov137pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png oka147pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png rojas villegas
128pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png van aert138pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png wang148pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png vega
#vmp - argon 18#kraftwerk#netia - vónin
151pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png belkov161pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png park171pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png domagalski
152pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png degand162pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png ackermann172pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png konepejs
153pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png ebejer163pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png bontenackels173pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png kolev
154pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png fuglsang164pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png denz174pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png nielsen
155pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png georgiev165pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png gerdemann175pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png padun
156pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png mihaylov166pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png hirschlein176pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png pedersen
157pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png nieve167pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png politt177pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png stachowiak
158pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vma.png stöhr168pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kmm.png tatarinov178pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/nvo.png veyhe

 
tastasol
Lovely preview, really liked those graphics, tsmoha Smile

First race of the aeason for Amador, and surely he'a the big favourite here. Doubt anyone can challenge him really.
 
cio93
Well, that's the new bar now, I guess? Cool
tsmoha for previewsident!
 
trekbmc
Wow, love those graphics in the preview, it's amazing! Grin

This is an important race for us, our PPRD was formatting poorly before this race, but over these 7 days we expect to get it down into the single digits - hopefully we avoid making it a negative sign as that would format just as badly. Pfft

Dream: Domagalski or Stachowiak goes for the KOM jersey, they fail miserably but it's a tiny bit exciting at least as they reach the top 20.

Expectation: We join a grand total of two breaks during the course of the race, perhaps Domagalski scores an extra 10 points by finishing in the top 35 of the GC like in Corsica.

Still we get a lot of XP and that is what counts - although maybe unfortunate that we didn't send Sobota here instead of to Thailand as a lead-out.

Should be an awesome race GC-wise though, love the mountain prologue. Grin Get the feeling Uran will manage the win, although imagine if Eastman won (I hear a lot CT teams groaning Pfft),



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sgdanny
GT worthy preview there!

We're here for stage wins, as I dont expect Poljanski to do anything here. Guardini is on his own in the sprints and Shapira is a good breakaway rider. So we have many cards to play with
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valverde321
Wow that preview! i.imgur.com/47d24Cl.pngi.imgur.com/47d24Cl.pngi.imgur.com/47d24Cl.pngi.imgur.com/47d24Cl.png

Really hoping for a Top 5 here, and also win the U25, which provides some extra points as well.

Edit: Dang the emojis didn't work at first I guess
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Luis Leon Sanchez
Hopefully VDB can do something here as he does have a decent support team with him. Hoping Bouhanni actually does well in the sprints for once and utilises the support that he has here.
 
Ollfardh
I can only echo the above, what a preview. Did you make it all yourself?

Hoping Pelucchi or maybe even Cerny can get a few points in group sprints. Other than that, just attack guys Smile
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
fintas
WOW thats an awesome preview, just the TTT strength missing (76-73-73-71-71-70-70-65 for my team)...
After I see the startlist I was sure of two things, this race either will be extraordinary for the team or it will be a total disaster. The duo Marquez/Nazaret has given excellent results so far and with Chiarello and Barlt in support, any of them should be able to stay well within the top 10.. The absence of the best sprinters puts some responsibility over Silvestre who has at least to achieve a stage victory or this race will be a failure at the individual level.

The goals for this race are at least one stage win, one rider in the top 10 and another 1 in the top 15. Less than that will not make me happy
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Tamijo
My my what a preview amassing layout.

Hope the race just 1/2 as great, I will definitely follow.
 
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knockout
Can't decide whether i like this preview or the P-R more. Both of you have outdone each other! Stunning previews!
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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Yellow Jersey
Not in for this one but felt obligated to comment on the amazing preview tsmoha!
I'll keep an eye on Eastman and the CT contingent :lol:
 
baseballlover312
Dat preview. Shock
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Booker
Yellow Jersey wrote:
Not in for this one but felt obligated to comment on the amazing preview tsmoha!
I'll keep an eye on Eastman and the CT contingent :lol:


Same here Grin Ridiculously stunning work tsmoha!

I feel like a hater cheering for anyone but Eastman, but there's no room for sentimentality in this CT division.

Hopefully Guardini can come through with the green jersey for Fablok as well. That's what I'll really be cheering for, actually Wink
 
Croatia14
Not here. Regretting it because of the preview. Not regretting it because we have no riders for this. Sprinting startlist is incredibly weak for a HC race with that many opportunities. Climbing startlist is decent, but sadly not every climber besides Brajkovic is here.

I fear I'll lose major ground to other relegation candidates with the weak climbers field here and riders like vdB, Intxausti, Ji, Shikai and Kudus here.
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Bushwackers
Wow what a preview, nice work! This is one of our "win" goals, and it should be very doable with this startlist although Amador failed to do so here in the past. A pretty weak sprint field should allow Aregger to get some top 10's as well.
Comparing our TTT lineup with Generali:
UBS: 80 - 78 - 78 - 77 - 75 - 74 - 71 - 68
Generali: 79 - 78 - 77 - 77 - 77 - 76 - 76 - 72

I can't predict who will win it. Matt's team is overall better, but my guys here have higher mountain stats so might be recovering a little better. If it were at the beginning I think Generali wins but since it is after all the mountains I think we have a chance.

Can't wait!!
 
DaveTwoBob
Pleased to be part of this awesome preview even though I only have my B team here so looking for another lucky breakaway from Tartarinov.
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Mresuperstar
Can I join this race now just to get into that preview?

Well done tsmoha.
 
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Kentaurus
Excellent Preview! Feel lucky as a CT team I still have the ability to send a squad to this race that on paper can compete against most of these PCT teams. Eastman has an outside shot for yellow, and should be a strong contender in the best young rider category. Would love to see one of our other guys take a stab at least at the KoM as well. Obviously terrified of the TTT as we are probably the weakest team here in that category, and while Eastman is a decent time-trialist, he will have essentially no support there.

And huge bonus points for putting Eastman in the header! Looks awesome!
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Eden95
That preview though Smile

Losing the lead by 4 seconds on the last stage here last season sucked, I predict this year it'll be about 10 Wink
Uran and Intxausti are almost identical and finishing positions should come down to daily form/positioning before climbs more than anything. Amador being the outright favourite with a decent TTT team will be hard to beat though.
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