Isle of Man ITT Discussion
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 26-12-2016 17:24
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Isle of Man ITT
Category: C1 | 60,1 km | terrain: hilly ITT | Isle of Man |
Biking on the Isle of Man has always been popular, but in the latest years, cycling has grown there too. The former moto TT on the Isle of Man has grown into a massive event including a hilly ITT as part of the Man-Game PCT calendar.
Last years winner Reus is not here, and that is a huge mistkae for sure looking at the profile and the current ranking positions. At least one former winner is here: 2010 champion Cornu. He should've pretty decent chances for another podium or even the win. Let's see what his opponence looks like:
| TT | Rs | Hi | | TT | Rs | Hi | Fiedler | 83 | 76 | 68 | Cancellara | 79 | 71 | 68 | Cornu | 81 | 76 | 72 | Atkins | 78 | 75 | 68 | Yatsevich | 80 | 81 | 68 | Oliveira | 78 | 74 | 73 | Gonzalez Salas | 80 | 76 | 60 | Nascimento | 78 | 73 | 68 | Paillot | 80 | 74 | 71 | Balloni | 78 | 71 | 66 | Schädlich | 80 | 71 | 64 | Ligthart | 78 | 66 | 58 | Van Winden | 80 | 70 | 63 | Brajkovic | 77 | 79 | 75 | Viviani | 79 | 77 | 66 | Ghyselinck | 77 | 77 | 68 | Brändle | 79 | 73 | 71 | Christian | 77 | 71 | 69 |
In a normal long ITT Jacob Fiedler should of course be the outright favourite. He is by far the strongest pure time triallist, and has a decent resistance and flat stat on offer. But then there are two problems that might occure to the German champion: 1. The strong influence of form in TTs and the influence of the climbing part starting in the second half of the long road.
There former winner Dominique Cornu could scrap the party. The belgian champion will surely be the first contestant. Beneath having the second best pure TT ability he should got over the hill quite a bit better than the German. Also his acceleration advantage might hand him a few seconds over on the starting ramp and after the speedbumps.
Yoann Paillot points in a similar direction. He needs a hard drive on the climbing parts, and then he should be a huge contestant for the podium.
Even more chances should go for two guys that might not be the real deals on the first view, but look even more dangerous on the second: Matthias Brändle and Nelson Oliveira. Both should make a lot of time on the underestimated climb, and could on a good day go far into the Top 5.
As the final individual favourite there is Janez Brajkovic to mention. His fantastic climbing and resistance ability make him a real contender despite his more medipocre time trial ability. If he stays in contact until half of the race he is a clear winning contender, otherwise he's worth a bold prediction on the podium. At least an interesting plan to send a real allrounder to this ITT.
Interestingly quite some CT teams have made their way up here, though only one guy should have the ability to hurt the favourites though: Yatsevich. His skillset makes him a clear podium candipdate for Spark. The only other guy of the 6 CT teams with options here should be Christian, but he needs a perfect day for a Top10 to make his appearance valuable.
Then there are plenty of more high TT low back-up stat riders, that are always to watch and on an outstanding day able to finish in the top positions: In first line the Generali guys Van Winden and Viviani, but also Gonzalez Salas, Schädlich and Cancellara. They all should lack the hilly/resistance ability to perform in podium range though.
Some more interesting outsiders for a higher Top 10 are: Ghyselinck, Pökälä and Schär.
Full startlist:
Ma | Gonzalez Salas | Oliveira | Le Montagner | Sakellaridis | Ligthart | Nascimento | Saramotins | Cornu | Navarrete | Gonçalves | Thire | Bret | Fiedler | Christian | Dal Col | Bonnet | Balloni | Rowsell | Schär | Flens | Barth | Offredo | Van Zandbeek | Petrus | Reijnen | Yatsevich | Schädlich | Delgerbayar | Alawi | Sebright | Brändle | Van Winden | Posthuma | Rumsas | Atkins | Viviani | Cancellara | Paillot | | Ghyselinck | Brajkovic | Pökälä | | | Velits | Nurmi | |
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matt17br |
Posted on 26-12-2016 17:47
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Hey I thought more top TTists would show up! Much higher chances of achieving that top 10 goal and making it 3/4 for the season, with decent possibilities of taking that to 4/5. Obligatory fuck Duo Differdange.
Anyway! Van Winden has been very underwhelming lately after a great season start that went above and beyond my expectations, while Viviani decided to start performing like he's supposed to in Olympia and then in Norway after he started off the season with no better time trials than a 73 TT rider. Ghyselinck has been consistent throughout the season and outperformed both my leaders at Olympia, so I have 3 good options.
But then we have a huge problem, which is that cheeky hill in the second part, goddammit. Now that is going to make a random discipline like TTs even more random, and I really am afraid that some weird shit might go down.
Until then though good luck to everyone!
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Posted on 26-12-2016 19:04
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Woah, same as Matt expected a tougher field here - I dont definetely mind though. Top 5 for Salas here would be great if he could achieve that.
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fintas |
Posted on 26-12-2016 19:05
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This type of terrain does not favor Fiedler, but nevertheless expected a fiercer competition in this race. With these participants I think that maybe a top 5 is within reach, whatever is below the top10 will already be a disappointment.
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Atlantius |
Posted on 26-12-2016 19:32
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I really hope Paillot will chose this day to shine. In prime condition he should be able to grab a podium. Hopefully Pökälä will find some good legs to score as many points as possible as well.
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Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 26-12-2016 20:12
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This should be a nice race. On the board it looks quite a clean deal for the likes of Fiedler and Cornu, but the final hill could really shuffle things. I'm counting on that to see Oliveira push forward in the final classification, even though he hasn't shown much this season.
Thanks for the immersive preview Croatia and good luck everyone!
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Posted on 27-12-2016 00:03
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Great preview croatia! Will be interesting to see how much the climb up and over the mountain (yes, I know it is a hilly race, but it is called the Mountain during Manx TT race) will affect the rankings. If Brajkovic is able to be there or thereabouts time-wise before the climb, he could be in with a big chance.
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Selwink |
Posted on 27-12-2016 11:19
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Hoping for a surprise top 5, but that will probably be very hard in this field. With Cancellara and Brajkovic, not reaching the top 10 it would be an incredible disappointment.
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Margh Norway |
Posted on 27-12-2016 21:55
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Thanks for another detailed preview, Croatia!
If nothing unusual happens my group of guys will only fight for low top20th. We need exceptional daily form to interfere with the best.
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matt17br |
Posted on 28-12-2016 23:40
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We made it! I can't believe it went as well as it did! I'm pretty surprised the hill had so little influence, but looking at this race history it's not as odd. Daily form however, that definitely had an enormous impact as usual. Cornu totally got a -5 there, I couldn't be more sorry for LLS, when arguably the favourite finishes 20th, 3 mins back.
Onto more flattering stuff, I'm glad at least one of my 3 riders could get a very positive form and violently snatched a 6th place. I would have been less "guilty" had that been Viviani or Ghyselinck considering how much Dennis sucks uphill, but hey, an achieved goal is an achieved goal.
Massive congratulations to fintas for yet another demonstration that paying Fiedler's wage is worth it. Or at least it looks like it is! And thanks a million to Croatia for the great effort in reporting this.
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Heine |
Posted on 29-12-2016 05:50
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Congrats to Fiedler, he was the favorite and delivered. Great result for my team with 2nd and 4th. A lot betyer than expected, schadlich must have had a +5 day
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Posted on 29-12-2016 08:23
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Congrats on another Fiedler win. Suddently things seem to change for Fintas. A promotion spot within reach?
Also congrats to Heine. Always nice to see the former PT teams succesfully attempting to get back up.
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Margh Norway |
Posted on 29-12-2016 09:32
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Gratz to Karcher and thanks to Croatia! Race was interesting stuff to follow.
With van Zandbeek on a good day we got our fair share,... but definitely have to reconsider if this race will be worth another stay.
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Posted on 29-12-2016 10:47
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Thanks for the report!
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dev4ever |
Posted on 29-12-2016 12:17
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Mixed feelings here, top 10 is fine but could have been better looking at Schadlich and other similar riders. congratz fintas and thanks crotia for the nice report
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Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 29-12-2016 12:17
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Meh another lacklustre day from Oliveira. I really wasn't expecting him to be the guy to pull us down this year. Cornu was even worse, what happened there? He should have ended 15-20 places higher.
Strong Fiedler delivers as usual even with that unavoidable lump in the profile. Congrats fintas.
Also thank you cro for another interesting report!
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fintas |
Posted on 29-12-2016 15:40
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This game does not stop surprising me, how is it possible that Fiedler won so clearly a TT with that hill so close to the end? The only explanation is the daily form with Fiedler clearly with +5 and the main rivals like Cornu with -5.
Still is a great victory and quite important as it consolidates the position of the team in the middle of the table,
Thanks guys and one more time thanks for the great report
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Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 01-01-2017 06:48
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Absolute rubbish. Moments like these are what decides seasons. Daily form absolutely screwing us there. PCM stats mean nothing...
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Atlantius |
Posted on 02-01-2017 12:15
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Thanks for a great report.
Really happy with Paillots podium. Pökälä didn't out-do himself but that was hardly expected either so no harm there.
Nurmi was there to learn and gather experience for his future as a keg in the TTT-train. so finishing last is no harm even thoug it would have been nice to have him beat someone at least
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weirdskyfan64 |
Posted on 02-01-2017 18:37
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I keep expecting something from our TTists, but have so far garnered a single podium from Joost Posthuma of all people.
The wait continues.
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