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PCT/CT Rankings Update #5
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| The Rider |
Posted on 21-10-2014 09:51
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A great update for us, especially because:
- We only have 2/5 of our c1 races left (we could do well in both compared to the previous three.)
- Most of the races we fancied ourselves in are still to come, I thought the first half of the season would be the difficult half!
We only have four one day races in June, so if we are still in the top 6 come the end of the month that would be amazin.  And ...... Txurruka and Godoy are yet to do anything really. |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 21-10-2014 11:16
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How can Boeing be below us in the prediction with a higher PPRD? Makes no sense...
Anyway, still not in the relegation-zone, which is cool. Have no real top scoring riders, but all leaders are somewhat consistent which may be useful in the end 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 21-10-2014 11:20
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fjhoekie wrote:
How can Boeing be below us in the prediction with a higher PPRD? Makes no sense...
Anyway, still not in the relegation-zone, which is cool. Have no real top scoring riders, but all leaders are somewhat consistent which may be useful in the end
I spotted that as well, but the gaps are so small it's hardly a serious issue. But looks like our planning for CT has payed off 
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| Stevenag |
Posted on 21-10-2014 12:30
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Lowest amount of racedays left and Pozzovivo is soon finished for the season.
Second half will be boring, and I will go down a lot of places. I should avoid relegation though.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 21-10-2014 13:08
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Still looking good.
Another good thing I noticed is that we're not dependant of 1 or 2 leaders, we have a whole bunch of 100+ scorers.
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| Smowz |
Posted on 21-10-2014 13:33
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Something to note for PCT managers is that there can often be extra promotion places due to natural wastage of Protour managers leaving the game. Not that this is necessarily expected but there are a few managers who have been a little less active - well I have been a lot less active (very sorry for that!).
Anyway it does look like a fight from five of the current top eight for promotion places and any five from the bottom nine for the dreaded relegation. Still shocked to see Metinvest down there - I guess there was too much loyalty to riders that were successful last year? Or has the change in race allocations perhaps affected things?
In the CT some of the predicted strong teams are on the rise but points scoring seems to always be a crawl down in this division so everything is in slow motion!
Always felt in continental tour it was best to have a nice spread of 10 steady points scorers rather than two or three uber scorers if possible. These guys can serve as domestiques later or can be sold usually for some sort of price. (Particular riders like Arashiro to Japanese teams )
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| cio93 |
Posted on 21-10-2014 13:40
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Smowz wrote:
Something to note for PCT managers is that there can often be extra promotion places due to natural wastage of Protour managers leaving the game. Not that this is necessarily expected but there are a few managers who have been a little less active - well I have been a lot less active (very sorry for that!).
This season is probably the one you should rely on that the least of all, if we simply base continuation on general discussion activity.
Everyone can look PT activity up themselves, and I don't think it should be a public topic (for now), but we seem far from the disbandment ratio we had in 2012 f.ex.
And about your own activity, no need to apologize as you're still doing pretty well.
Smowz wrote:
Anyway it does look like a fight from five of the current top eight for promotion places and any five from the bottom nine for the dreaded relegation. Still shocked to see Metinvest down there - I guess there was too much loyalty to riders that were successful last year? Or has the change in race allocations perhaps affected things?
Ignatiev has barely raced yet, Popovych underperforms so far. Simple as that.
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| roturn |
Posted on 21-10-2014 13:40
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Smowz wrote:
Something to note for PCT managers is that there can often be extra promotion places due to natural wastage of Protour managers leaving the game. Not that this is necessarily expected but there are a few managers who have been a little less active - well I have been a lot less active (very sorry for that!).
Well, except for not being able to report I see you posting regularly in all discussion threads. So I don`t see you that inactive tbh.
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 21-10-2014 13:48
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Hmm. Not bad, but not quite Jagielka.
Still, we should cut it for promotion, and Drapac climbing in the rankings again is nice too.
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| Margh Norway |
Posted on 21-10-2014 14:15
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We finally grinded our way through the month of May.
The last races of Bucks County, Onda Boavista and the opener in Frankfurt almost compensated the drought in-between.
To stop the lead from shrinking good results in Guatemala and Austria will come in handy.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 21-10-2014 14:53
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cio93 wrote:
Smowz wrote:
Anyway it does look like a fight from five of the current top eight for promotion places and any five from the bottom nine for the dreaded relegation. Still shocked to see Metinvest down there - I guess there was too much loyalty to riders that were successful last year? Or has the change in race allocations perhaps affected things?
Ignatiev has barely raced yet, Popovych underperforms so far. Simple as that.
This + PCM13 engine is useless crap. For example Rabon (bar one! stage at Down Under that gave us best result this year) who is next to 76hill 80fighter and 72/77 sprinting wise, should be one of the most agressive puncheurs in PCT, is usually rolling through the finish around 60-80th place, without sprinting at all. Why? Dont know, maybe Cyanide knows, but i doubt it. He is the team leader and usually top10 candidate, still he does not even try...
Meanwhile several teams around us are getting surprise breakaway wins and stuff like that. I am not sure if it was possible to do something better in planning or off-season, but now i just hope for avoiding relegation and selling everybody bar Ignatiev and talents.
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 21-10-2014 14:57
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| SotD |
Posted on 21-10-2014 15:37
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Perhaps the problem with Rabon is actually that he is captain. If he was a domestique he would probably attack from way out, while as captain he waits until its too late. I dont know.
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| knockout |
Posted on 21-10-2014 16:35
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Great to see us still in the position for direct promotion. It seems we did a great job in the off-season to create a squad that can be successful immediately but still has a lot of potential left for the years to come.
I did not really expected us to be right up there but the season is still long and we had many great results from breaks which can only be bonus to regular scoring.
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 21-10-2014 17:32
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SotD wrote:
Perhaps the problem with Rabon is actually that he is captain. If he was a domestique he would probably attack from way out, while as captain he waits until its too late. I dont know.
I am pretty sure it's the well know PCM 13 problem that to make hilly races more selective the top 10-15 guys attack everyone else sits up so in events were there is many guys over 77 Rabon will just sit there, it's PCM's usual fixing of flawed gameplay with flawed gameplay |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 21-10-2014 17:35
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On Metinvest, I guess the breakaways and the fact that sprinters seem to be more durable have not helped Hoffman.
As for Rabon well, 26 riders in the division have a better hill stat than him.
Smowz wrote:
Something to note for PCT managers is that there can often be extra promotion places due to natural wastage of Protour managers leaving the game. Not that this is necessarily expected but there are a few managers who have been a little less active - well I have been a lot less active (very sorry for that!).
It seems more likely to me that CT teams will benefit from PCT teams disbanding, than PCT teams benefiting from PT teams disbanding. It makes it tough this year for PCT teams, especially with 3 of last year's relegated teams looking set to take up promotion positions.
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| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 21-10-2014 17:52
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SportingNonsense wrote:
It seems more likely to me that CT teams will benefit from PCT teams disbanding, than PCT teams benefiting from PT teams disbanding. It makes it tough this year for PCT teams, especially with 3 of last year's relegated teams looking set to take up promotion positions.
If there were to be a number of PCT teams disbanding, would it affect the number of PCT teams that are relegated? Or will there simply be more CT teams promoted?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 21-10-2014 17:54
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aidanvn13 wrote:
If there were to be a number of PCT teams disbanding, would it affect the number of PCT teams that are relegated? Or will there simply be more CT teams promoted?
Well last year it meant the PCT teams stayed up, but i guess it will depend on the number of disbandments. Either way it's just better to be as high up as possible ;
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 21-10-2014 18:01
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Well we're heading upwards so it's good update for us, but only two points away from the penultimate position so we will have to look to consolidate on some decent, if unspectacular, results recently. We could really do with Orozco and in particular Zurita contributing more as the number of mountainous races increases.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 21-10-2014 18:02
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TheManxMissile wrote:
aidanvn13 wrote:
If there were to be a number of PCT teams disbanding, would it affect the number of PCT teams that are relegated? Or will there simply be more CT teams promoted?
Well last year it meant the PCT teams stayed up, but i guess it will depend on the number of disbandments. Either way it's just better to be as high up as possible ;
Last year was an unusual situation as with the number of PCT and CT disbandments, every CT team not disbanding would have been promoted.
Due to two teams not showing the activity we desire, they received a second chance by staying in CT, plus Sauber did not want to promote iirc.
That was the reason why noone relegated last season, but it should not happen again with a big and active Continental division.
Which means back to usual, the teams in the relegation spots always relegate, while the amount of lower-division teams promoting is equal to
number of relegation spots + number of disbanding teams that did not end up in relegation spots.
And as SN hinted towards, it looks like that formula will favour good CT teams more than good PCT teams this season, but with half of the season left, that can still change a lot of course.
Edited by cio93 on 21-10-2014 18:04
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| ryant |
Posted on 21-10-2014 18:07
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I still aim to be promoted but after a race heavy month and not much really to say about, I'm thinking that the only way I can promote is via those disbanding PCT teams 
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