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General Transfer Discussion (2019)
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 23-09-2019 05:58
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Question I see a lot of deals that are to my knowledge not by the rules, for example the Paillot, Daniel Vesely and Ben Swift deal; according to rule nr.13.
13. No rider can be traded for 0€. For riders of 100.000€ wage or less, minimum rider transfer fee is their wage!
For riders with more than 100.000€ wage, minimum transfer fee is 100.000€.
Ben Swift is sold to Aker; Swift (wage 660.000) the minimum transfer fee is 100.000 but Aker is paying more which is fine (because they agreed that Swift is better in their opinion than Paillot+Vesely).
Vesely (wage 210.000) the minimum transfer fee is 100.000 and Paillot (wage 170.000) the minimum transfer fee is 100.000 so together Aegon at least have to pay 200.000 transfer fee, but Aegon is paying 0 to Aker Mot which is not according to the rules right?
If they calculated the deal was worth 226.000 is favor of Aegon; Aegon should pay 200.000 and Aker 426.000, so that everything is calculated correct and with Transfer Tax at the end.
Edited by OlegTinkov on 24-09-2019 03:34
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 23-09-2019 06:01
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I don't think that applies to rider swaps involved.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 23-09-2019 06:06
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Why not? I don't see a rule that says if you swap a rider, rule 13 does not apply.(and which could mean in the end you are dodging the transfer tax)
Also if the deal would be done separately for example Aegon buys Yoann Paillot and Daniel Vesely and later in the transfer season Aker buys Ben Swift rule 13 would apply, but if you combine them not? That make no sense.
Edited by OlegTinkov on 23-09-2019 06:19
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 23-09-2019 07:18
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I agree with OlegTinkov that the rules leave some space for speculation. Rule 13 states that no rider can be "traded", which for me may well involve swap deals. If it said "sold", things would be clear. Don't know what the actual intention of this rule is, but I guess if roturn confirms such a deal, that's some hint. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 23-09-2019 07:26
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I nominate that Mad Pedersen thread as Thread of The Year for that formatting issue!
It might be too early in the morning, but f*ck I'm laughing so hard at that
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| tastasol |
Posted on 23-09-2019 07:28
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Ah, when I thought Trek had failed, I just screwed it completly! 
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 23-09-2019 07:28
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TheManxMissile wrote:
I nominate that Mad Pedersen thread as Thread of The Year for that formatting issue!
It might be too early in the morning, but f*ck I'm laughing so hard at that
I had to coach hin through that one  not even including the second thread
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| liefwarrior |
Posted on 23-09-2019 08:56
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We've hit the point where the first free agent signings are being confirmed right, I'm not understanding this completely wrong? |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 23-09-2019 08:58
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Yep currently those from 8:57 GMT and before are confirmed. 60 hours for those before 3:45am on the first night and 48 hours after 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Azerbaijan |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:02
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Will an admin close the threads with sealed FA signings, or how will it go? |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:03
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Azerbaijan wrote:
Will an admin close the threads with sealed FA signings, or how will it go?
Nobody closes the threads, they are just yours when deadline passes. If someone bids after then obviously admin will declare it ineligible
Sorry, I may be wrong  See LLS below
Edited by jandal7 on 23-09-2019 09:06
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:03
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Azerbaijan wrote:
Will an admin close the threads with sealed FA signings, or how will it go?
Yes they will be locked in time, but no point bidding in them once they're confirmed anyway.
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| Azerbaijan |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:06
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jandal7 wrote:
Azerbaijan wrote:
Will an admin close the threads with sealed FA signings, or how will it go?
Nobody closes the threads, they are just yours when deadline passes. If someone bids after then obviously admin will declare it ineligible
Cool. I just got confused with the 60 hours for some, 48 hours for others |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:08
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Nice steal for 50k with Roe tsmoha 
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| matt17br |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:46
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Lol first time it ever happens to me to get a bid zabel'd by less than 1 minute
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:47
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I got a thread reply notification and thought, bloody hell that was quick
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| matt17br |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:51
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Marcovdw wrote:
I got a thread reply notification and thought, bloody hell that was quick
Damn, I assumed they didn't even work, they don't for me at least but did the past few years. They don't show up in spam either, any ideas?
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:54
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I don't know, they work most of the time for me. Sometimes when I'm online when there is a reply the mail is delayed/won't show up though
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 23-09-2019 09:55
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matt17br wrote:
Marcovdw wrote:
I got a thread reply notification and thought, bloody hell that was quick
Damn, I assumed they didn't even work, they don't for me at least but did the past few years. They don't show up in spam either, any ideas?
Works fine for me. Maybe something in your mailbox settings is blocking it.
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 23-09-2019 10:01
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I don't get emails neither with tracking threads. I only use them to be able to see in one view if someone has overbid me in one of my bids
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