Well obviously Pavel Sivakov (ID 5501) needs a big stats update ->
*2nd in this year's Giro d'Italia Youth classification (9th overall) only 90 seconds behind López Miguel Ángel
*1st in the Tour of the Alps 2019, especially stage 2 was pretty impressive https://www.youtu...aBNk6vkg5I
*1st Giro Ciclistico della Valle d'Aosta Mont Blanc 2017
*1st Giro Ciclistico d'Italia 2017
*14th Tour de Suisse 2018
*1st Ronde de l'Isard 2017
*4th Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali 2018
*etc.
With the imminent decline of the biggest greek cycling star of the Man-Game, Georgos Tzortzakis, I believe it is time to atleast implement something remotely similar to keep the roleplay alive. For the past 2-3 years I have asked for the Bouglas-brothers (77 and 76 SPR) to be upgraded to 79-80 to be used as good leadout riders, but unfortunately it hasn't happened, and now they are too old to add anything to the roleplay-scenario (turning 29 and 30 respectively).
I have picked up everything remotely close to PT level domestiques now, and before Vlatos also declines I would think it would be interesting to have something better than an 78MO rider with relatively poor backup stats.
942 Georgios Bouglas can be used as a temporary fix, before adding something more interesting!
He is currently level 4.35 and will max with:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
72
64
70
58
73
66
71
54
77
78
62
67
58
Instead of changing a bunch of stuff, I would ask to upgrade his current stats to these (his max stats as stated above), but NOT change his development. This would give him 1 season with these stats, before turning 30 and maxing out with these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
74
64
70
58
75
67
72
55
79
80
62
67
58
This would make Bouglas a valuable leadoutsprinter, but he would never become a top sprinter himself. Being 30 in the season of maxing out, he would be 31 before being training eligeble, and thus missing the opportunity to make him any better. So basically he would be a 2-3 years leadout solution for a decent sprinter and nothing more! But this would give room for adding a level 1-2 rider with similar stats or better, to close the gap from Tzortzakis - and even more importantly, to ensure that greek cycling isn't going from pretty good, to absolutely bollocks once Vlatos also stops. The interesting thing is, that Bouglas actually is performing pretty well currently in the Tour of Qinghai Lake, where he won a stage and also took another 4 top 10 stageresults. He has done well on a regular basis.
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6406 Mikhail Kortsidakis got a relatively big boost last season, but not enough for anyone to cast any interest. I was, but he was anyhow still not good enough for any real PT relevance. He did well at the amateur division however.
I would ask to change his stats a bit. He is currently level 3, not levelling up I would assume being in the amateur rankings. He is 25 next season, and his stats looks like this:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
74
63
68
54
72
72
68
66
65
72
76
70
73
As he is pot 3 only, he will max out with 77 Prologue as his key stat, if going for such a stat. Alternatively a decent roulleur - but only for helping purpose with 78FL, 69HI, 67COB, 67SPR and 75ACC.
One thing we could do, was to change his cobble to 73 and his sprint to 67, while upping his pot to 4. Like this:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
74
63
68
54
72
72
68
73
67
72
76
70
73
This would make him max out at the age of 27 with stats that looks like this:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
77
63
69
54
76
75
70
77
70
73
77
70
73
or
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
77
63
71
54
75
74
70
77
67
72
80
71
73
This would make him be ready to take over from Karatzios, who will max out at the same time, but being 30 at the time... Also it would make him a decent domestique for all divisions, while never being a top rider. It would however be possible to train him (if trained each season) to 81COB at max, before not being eligeble for more.
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In order to create the next greek toprider (relatively speaking) we could take:
482 Stylianos Farantakis whom I had on stagiare contract for 2 seasons. He is basically pretty interesting, but not enough to really gamble on him. He is 24 next season and is levelling up to these stats (level 2, pot 5):
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
67
56
64
71
69
64
65
66
71
71
61
62
74
He can max out at 78TT, but without any notable backup stats, and thus being significantly worse than Panagiotis Vlatos. He does however have the ability to become 80 Prologe - which unfortunately is not enough to fight the bigger riders either. Alternatively he can become 78 sprint, which unfortunately doesn't really help either due to his low FL stat.
So I will suggest something like this, which will open for him becoming a new Vlatos/Tzortzakis combination, with the manager needing to take some sort of gamble. +1FL, +2TT, +4RES, +2SPR, +4ACC, +5DH. This would give him a current statsituation like this:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
68
56
64
73
69
68
65
66
73
75
61
67
74
And would give these chances to develop him:
Sprinter:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
74
57
65
73
75
71
75
69
80
81
61
68
74
Track-Sprint:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
74
56
65
74
72
74
75
66
80
81
61
68
80
Track-TT:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
74
56
65
80
72
71
76
66
77
77
61
68
81
He would be 27 once maxing, and 28 before being training eligeble, so another rider without a lot of training potential, but this one being the new Tzortzakis OR Vlatos, whatever solution is desired. He will require training no matter what to become a rider winning, but he will become a PT level rider with the potential to score 300+ points. Tzortzakis was 5-600 points when he was maxed, while Vlatos is consistently 4-500 points.
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Looking at the hill/mountain/timetrial sector from Cyprus/Greece combo, we have recently seen riders maxing at 75 or below. These stats are outdated, and no longer of any use, and while many of those riders with decent MO/HI stats are coming close to an end, I feel like it is needed to update this section aswell:
From this sector, only Andreas Miltiadis, 23 (amateur team), Michael Christodoulos, 22 (not signed), Zisis Soulius, 23 (stagiare), Anastasios Koumpetsos, 24 (stagiare), Miltiadis Giannoutsos, 21 (Festina), Ioannidis Kiriakidis, 22 (amateur team), Mikhail Mavrikakis, 25 (not signed), Ioannidis Spanopoulos, 26 (not signed) and Nikolaos Ioannidis, 26 (Festina) are present.
As indicated not a single one of them has attracted any real interest. I have picked up 3 on 50K wages, because they were greek, while the rest is not being signed. This is the best indicator, that the stats need to be adjusted (if only ever so slightly!).
To give a decent balance, with riders that CAN be signed, but not necessarily will, I would upgrade the mentioned riders (signed on stagiare, amateur or free agent) with these stats:
888 Andreas Miltiadis, 23, level 2, pot 4, have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
67
69
69
67
69
68
62
68
61
69
61
67
67
It will give the opportunity to max him out at 75 MO, 75HI and 75ACC. Alternatively 75MO, 73HI, 73TT. A final option is to go for cobbles, which would make him 74COB. I would recommend giving him:
+1MO, +1HI, +1TT, +2COB, +3REC. This would make him versatile and give several options, while still having 76 as the highest possible stat. He would max at the age of 26, being training eligeble at the age of 27. Could become a decent GC, hilly or cobble domestique, with a poor sprint and fighter stats, while mediocre in flats and physical traits. This would be his new stats for the upcoming season:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
67
70
70
68
69
68
65
68
61
69
61
67
67
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6359 Michael Christodoulos, 22, level 1, pot 4, have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
66
58
61
69
68
64
63
53
53
64
65
64
70
This gives him one possible outcome. Timetriallist. And he would max at 76TT. I would consider changing his potential to 5, and give +2FL, +5MO, +4HI and +5FIG. This would give him these stats instead:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
68
63
65
69
68
64
63
53
53
64
70
64
70
Maxing out at 75FL, 78TT and 79PRL, with nothing else notable, other than actually being able to survive the smaller lumbs on the routes. Would close the gap after P. Tzortzakis and Sakellaridis, while not being remotely close to Vlatos.
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6234 Zisis Soulius, 23, level 1, pot 4, have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
68
68
68
65
72
70
65
51
70
72
57
73
65
With the potential to become 77 sprint or 75MO + 75HI. So basically he is the equivalent to the Bouglas brothers who never signed, even when these stats were worth more... I suggest upping his potential til 5 instead of 4, which would give him a possible 77MO + 76HI or 76HI + 73SPR or 79SPR. He would max at the age of 27 and be training eligeble at the age of 28, so not a big training threat, but a decent rider.
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459 Anastasios Koumpetsos, 24, level 1, pot 1, have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
68
68
68
65
72
70
65
51
70
72
57
73
65
Koumpetsos have a very decent bade to build on, but his pot of just 1, makes it easy to predict the outcome - and that it will never be worthy of a contract. He will max out at 76HI, 71MO and nothing noteworthy in terms of backup stats. Not pathetic at all, but given that he is on a stagiare contract, already 24 next season and not leveling up, he will be 29 once maxing out, with stats that can always be picked up at 50K wages. I suggest changing his potential to 3 rather than 1. This would make him max at 78HI + 72MO or 78HI + 70SPR.
Leveling up this late will mean he got 1 season of training, at most.
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6282 Ioannidis Kiriakidis, 22, level 1, pot 4, have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
67
65
67
69
67
68
67
62
63
70
69
73
69
A pure timetriallist with nothing else to show. 76TT and 70Hi once maxing out. I would suggest giving him +2MO and +3HI. Which would make him possibly have 76TT, 74MO and 75HI. Leveling out at the level of Ioannidis and slightly better than Spanopoulos who have not gotten contracts (Ioannidis was signed by me last season) despite having been in the game for 3-4 seasons.
This would be his new stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
67
67
70
69
67
68
67
62
63
70
69
73
69
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5040 Mikhail Mavrikakis, 25, level 3, pot 4 have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
69
72
69
67
71
70
65
54
61
66
62
58
67
This will make him max at 76MO, 72HI and 71TT. Several riders with similar stats have struggled to be signed for seasons. A very simple solution. Give him +1MO and +6DH, and he should get a contract, without interfering with anything. Easy rider to max out, will never be anything but a domestique at levels above CT. Will max out at 27, and be training eligeble at 28 but at no purpose due to shabby backup stats.
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5110 Ioannidis Spannopoulos, 26, level 2, pot 4, have these stats:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
68
68
68
68
70
69
66
54
60
63
65
62
67
Spannopoulos have been in the DB for ages, and has been ever so slightly intruiging with his potential 74MO, 72HI and 74TT, but maxing at the age of 29 will make it pointless. Changing his potential to 5, however would make it possible for him to land a contract - although still difficult. That would see him maxing at 75MO instead, or give the possibility to give him 75MO and 75HI.
In order to fully cover the gap in TT stats I would recommend changing his potential to 5 and give him +2PRL and +2TT. This would give him:
FL
MO
HI
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FIG
DH
PRL
68
68
68
70
70
69
66
54
60
63
65
62
69
That way he could become either 75MO + 72HI + 76TT or 77TT + 70HI. Either way, still a rather pointless rider, but atleast he could somewhat become a domestique at all levels.
Last year SN asked me to release Sarawut Sirironnachai as he is Thailands most successful cyclist irl atm, so he'd get an upgrade. Then he noticed that he only maxed the season before, so we should wait until after this season to upgrade him. Would be cool if that could be done. I would like his stats to stay similar to his current ones, just a few ones upped a little. Maybe just increase his Hill and Acc stat by 3 stat points or something?
Now for my suggestions. This time I might be a little bit over the top with some stats but I still hope some of these riders find their way in the db.
Fung: I have suggested him already last year like that , just putting him up again. Has already some strong results in stage races and time trials.
Ovsyannikov: Currently highest scoring Kazakh rider on the CQ rankings from the ones that can be added this season. Would be cool to have him as a classics allrounder.
Gamper: Strong time trailer. Designed him to be useful with the Fabian training.
Salzmann: Has some decent results in various types of races, including cobbles.
Lyu: Statted him already last year when he was Asian mountain bike champion at a very young age. Now he also has some results on the road which confirm his potential. Maybe wait for next year to add him though. Could then imo be added with even better stats as the next big Asian climber in the game.
Bolor-Erdene: Mongolian Time Trial champion. Didn't give him great time trial skills but with high resistance and flat stats he could also contend for that title in the MG DB.
Zariff: I see sammyt has already proposed him as a sprinter. To me he seemed more like a puncheur talent from the results, but I can follow Sammyt's argumentation why he should be added with high sprint stats.
Goh: By far the strongest Singaporean rider at the moment. Imo with his results he deserves to be upgraded to make him useful.
Voloshin: Showed some good results in selective hilly races and also seems to have a decent punch
Pronskiy: Some remarkable results for his age. Won the white jersey at the Austria Tour in July and came third at the Tour de Langkawi, with a 4th spot on the selective mountain stage.
Luchshenko: Has some good results in sprint stages but also in more selective races.
Bulk order of potential additions/updates in the spoiler using the Daily DB stats as a guide with an attempt to modify for a MG context - will try do some more down the line. Don't expect any of these riders to be added 100% as they are, purely aiming for a rough guide in terms of potential abilities
Spoiler
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
67
72
69
66
61
70
64
62
66
60
70
72
66
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
73
78
77
71
76
74
70
72
65
68
74
75
71
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
55
64
59
59
56
60
62
57
59
55
65
62
65
COL
SA
1
0
13
1
1997
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
65
74
72
68
71
71
67
60
68
73
72
68
67
COL
SA
2
0
13
1
1997
7
6177
Bernal
Egan
68
82
78
74
77
77
74
60
68
76
75
69
73
COL
SA
4
100
13
1
1997
7
6006
Mollema
Bauke
70
68
74
70
73
72
70
57
61
64
69
62
70
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
6006
Mollema
Bauke
71
78
77
72
74
70
70
64
66
71
77
69
71
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
Pogačar
Tadej
69
71
69
65
69
72
70
64
66
71
71
73
66
SLO
EU
1
0
21
9
1998
7
Pogačar
Tadej
72
81
76
73
76
79
79
64
66
74
74
74
73
SLO
EU
4
100
21
9
1998
7
7453
Madouas
Valentin
55
58
64
59
65
57
64
61
64
55
59
55
56
FRA
EU
1
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
71
72
73
65
71
73
67
66
65
68
74
68
67
FRA
EU
2
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
72
79
80
66
74
76
73
66
65
74
81
69
68
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
5
Masnada
Fausto
70
75
75
71
74
73
71
60
63
72
69
71
68
ITA
EU
4
0
6
11
1993
6
Masnada
Fausto
71
77
76
73
76
74
73
60
63
72
69
71
70
ITA
EU
4
100
6
11
1993
6
Philipsen
Jasper
69
62
69
67
70
73
64
70
72
75
67
69
69
BEL
EU
1
0
2
3
1998
7
Philipsen
Jasper
77
63
72
67
77
76
79
77
82
83
67
72
69
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
7
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
68
53
60
57
65
71
71
60
69
71
64
62
69
ITA
EU
1
0
20
7
1994
3
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
73
62
74
62
72
72
71
63
71
74
73
66
62
ITA
EU
4
0
20
7
1994
5
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
74
63
76
62
74
73
72
63
72
76
74
66
62
ITA
EU
4
100
20
7
1994
5
5523
Sarreau
Marc
68
60
64
55
69
73
64
63
69
70
63
64
68
FRA
EU
2
0
10
6
1993
4
5523
Sarreau
Marc
75
60
68
62
75
74
70
74
78
78
63
66
71
FRA
EU
4
100
10
6
1993
4
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
60
57
62
60
63
64
61
57
60
65
57
62
59
BEL
EU
1
0
2
4
1997
3
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
71
71
74
65
73
74
69
63
71
72
72
64
64
BEL
EU
2
0
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
72
78
81
66
76
78
75
63
71
78
79
67
65
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
3174
Boudat
Thomas
65
51
61
61
64
66
66
50
69
68
62
65
74
FRA
EU
2
86
22
9
1994
5
3174
Boudat
Thomas
71
63
70
62
70
72
74
65
78
79
62
65
74
FRA
EU
4
100
22
9
1994
5
1643
Consonni
Simone
68
54
64
61
68
68
66
62
71
71
69
65
61
ITA
EU
2
0
12
9
1994
4
1643
Consonni
Simone
73
60
70
66
70
74
72
67
78
79
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
0
12
9
1994
6
1643
Consonni
Simone
75
60
71
66
72
75
74
68
80
81
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
100
12
9
1994
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
60
63
59
64
56
59
63
59
60
58
63
59
58
COL
SA
1
0
1
8
1997
5
2093
Higuita
Sergio
68
65
72
64
69
72
69
60
67
70
65
63
61
COL
SA
2
0
1
8
1997
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
71
68
79
65
76
75
72
60
70
77
71
66
62
COL
SA
4
100
1
8
1997
6
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
67
55
62
61
68
68
63
61
72
73
61
66
69
GER
EU
2
0
13
6
1993
5
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
76
60
66
68
74
76
72
67
78
77
67
68
70
GER
EU
4
100
13
6
1993
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
62
56
57
61
61
61
63
61
62
61
63
55
58
COL
SA
1
0
31
10
1997
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
65
73
70
63
70
71
68
61
62
70
67
70
63
COL
SA
2
0
31
10
1997
7
6060
Sosa
Ivan
68
81
77
64
73
75
74
61
62
76
74
73
64
COL
SA
4
100
31
10
1997
7
5386
Pacher
Quentin
68
67
69
62
70
68
68
51
69
70
70
67
64
FRA
EU
3
0
6
1
1992
4
5386
Pacher
Quentin
71
68
75
63
73
73
68
60
70
74
73
69
65
FRA
EU
4
100
6
1
1992
4
570
Debusschere
Jens
70
59
67
62
70
68
66
68
74
72
69
64
70
BEL
EU
4
0
28
8
1989
5
570
Debusschere
Jens
76
61
72
63
75
76
78
78
77
77
74
73
70
BEL
EU
4
100
28
8
1989
5
3223
Harper
Chris
67
69
69
62
69
65
66
60
65
70
66
64
62
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
3
3223
Harper
Chris
70
70
71
65
70
72
67
60
66
70
73
74
66
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
6
3223
Harper
Chris
71
77
78
66
73
76
73
60
66
76
80
77
67
AUS
OC
4
100
23
11
1994
6
If riders are already in the DB, the first listed stats are their current ones.
jph27 wrote:
Bulk order of potential additions/updates in the spoiler using the Daily DB stats as a guide with an attempt to modify for a MG context - will try do some more down the line. Don't expect any of these riders to be added 100% as they are, purely aiming for a rough guide in terms of potential abilities
Spoiler
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
67
72
69
66
61
70
64
62
66
60
70
72
66
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
73
78
77
71
76
74
70
72
65
68
74
75
71
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
55
64
59
59
56
60
62
57
59
55
65
62
65
COL
SA
1
0
13
1
1997
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
65
74
72
68
71
71
67
60
68
73
72
68
67
COL
SA
2
0
13
1
1997
7
6177
Bernal
Egan
68
82
78
74
77
77
74
60
68
76
75
69
73
COL
SA
4
100
13
1
1997
7
6006
Mollema
Bauke
70
68
74
70
73
72
70
57
61
64
69
62
70
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
6006
Mollema
Bauke
71
78
77
72
74
70
70
64
66
71
77
69
71
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
Pogačar
Tadej
69
71
69
65
69
72
70
64
66
71
71
73
66
SLO
EU
1
0
21
9
1998
7
Pogačar
Tadej
72
81
76
73
76
79
79
64
66
74
74
74
73
SLO
EU
4
100
21
9
1998
7
7453
Madouas
Valentin
55
58
64
59
65
57
64
61
64
55
59
55
56
FRA
EU
1
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
71
72
73
65
71
73
67
66
65
68
74
68
67
FRA
EU
2
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
72
79
80
66
74
76
73
66
65
74
81
69
68
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
5
Masnada
Fausto
70
75
75
71
74
73
71
60
63
72
69
71
68
ITA
EU
4
0
6
11
1993
6
Masnada
Fausto
71
77
76
73
76
74
73
60
63
72
69
71
70
ITA
EU
4
100
6
11
1993
6
Philipsen
Jasper
69
62
69
67
70
73
64
70
72
75
67
69
69
BEL
EU
1
0
2
3
1998
7
Philipsen
Jasper
77
63
72
67
77
76
79
77
82
83
67
72
69
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
7
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
68
53
60
57
65
71
71
60
69
71
64
62
69
ITA
EU
1
0
20
7
1994
3
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
73
62
74
62
72
72
71
63
71
74
73
66
62
ITA
EU
4
0
20
7
1994
5
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
74
63
76
62
74
73
72
63
72
76
74
66
62
ITA
EU
4
100
20
7
1994
5
5523
Sarreau
Marc
68
60
64
55
69
73
64
63
69
70
63
64
68
FRA
EU
2
0
10
6
1993
4
5523
Sarreau
Marc
75
60
68
62
75
74
70
74
78
78
63
66
71
FRA
EU
4
100
10
6
1993
4
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
60
57
62
60
63
64
61
57
60
65
57
62
59
BEL
EU
1
0
2
4
1997
3
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
71
71
74
65
73
74
69
63
71
72
72
64
64
BEL
EU
2
0
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
72
78
81
66
76
78
75
63
71
78
79
67
65
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
3174
Boudat
Thomas
65
51
61
61
64
66
66
50
69
68
62
65
74
FRA
EU
2
86
22
9
1994
5
3174
Boudat
Thomas
71
63
70
62
70
72
74
65
78
79
62
65
74
FRA
EU
4
100
22
9
1994
5
1643
Consonni
Simone
68
54
64
61
68
68
66
62
71
71
69
65
61
ITA
EU
2
0
12
9
1994
4
1643
Consonni
Simone
73
60
70
66
70
74
72
67
78
79
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
0
12
9
1994
6
1643
Consonni
Simone
75
60
71
66
72
75
74
68
80
81
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
100
12
9
1994
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
60
63
59
64
56
59
63
59
60
58
63
59
58
COL
SA
1
0
1
8
1997
5
2093
Higuita
Sergio
68
65
72
64
69
72
69
60
67
70
65
63
61
COL
SA
2
0
1
8
1997
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
71
68
79
65
76
75
72
60
70
77
71
66
62
COL
SA
4
100
1
8
1997
6
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
67
55
62
61
68
68
63
61
72
73
61
66
69
GER
EU
2
0
13
6
1993
5
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
76
60
66
68
74
76
72
67
78
77
67
68
70
GER
EU
4
100
13
6
1993
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
62
56
57
61
61
61
63
61
62
61
63
55
58
COL
SA
1
0
31
10
1997
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
65
73
70
63
70
71
68
61
62
70
67
70
63
COL
SA
2
0
31
10
1997
7
6060
Sosa
Ivan
68
81
77
64
73
75
74
61
62
76
74
73
64
COL
SA
4
100
31
10
1997
7
5386
Pacher
Quentin
68
67
69
62
70
68
68
51
69
70
70
67
64
FRA
EU
3
0
6
1
1992
4
5386
Pacher
Quentin
71
68
75
63
73
73
68
60
70
74
73
69
65
FRA
EU
4
100
6
1
1992
4
570
Debusschere
Jens
70
59
67
62
70
68
66
68
74
72
69
64
70
BEL
EU
4
0
28
8
1989
5
570
Debusschere
Jens
76
61
72
63
75
76
78
78
77
77
74
73
70
BEL
EU
4
100
28
8
1989
5
3223
Harper
Chris
67
69
69
62
69
65
66
60
65
70
66
64
62
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
3
3223
Harper
Chris
70
70
71
65
70
72
67
60
66
70
73
74
66
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
6
3223
Harper
Chris
71
77
78
66
73
76
73
60
66
76
80
77
67
AUS
OC
4
100
23
11
1994
6
If riders are already in the DB, the first listed stats are their current ones.
You aren't seriously proposing that we increase twice declined Jakob Fuglsang to 78 mtn.
Not that I'd be upset to see another 78 Danish climber, but that's just hilarious.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
jph27 wrote:
Bulk order of potential additions/updates in the spoiler using the Daily DB stats as a guide with an attempt to modify for a MG context - will try do some more down the line. Don't expect any of these riders to be added 100% as they are, purely aiming for a rough guide in terms of potential abilities
Spoiler
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
67
72
69
66
61
70
64
62
66
60
70
72
66
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
73
78
77
71
76
74
70
72
65
68
74
75
71
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
55
64
59
59
56
60
62
57
59
55
65
62
65
COL
SA
1
0
13
1
1997
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
65
74
72
68
71
71
67
60
68
73
72
68
67
COL
SA
2
0
13
1
1997
7
6177
Bernal
Egan
68
82
78
74
77
77
74
60
68
76
75
69
73
COL
SA
4
100
13
1
1997
7
6006
Mollema
Bauke
70
68
74
70
73
72
70
57
61
64
69
62
70
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
6006
Mollema
Bauke
71
78
77
72
74
70
70
64
66
71
77
69
71
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
Pogačar
Tadej
69
71
69
65
69
72
70
64
66
71
71
73
66
SLO
EU
1
0
21
9
1998
7
Pogačar
Tadej
72
81
76
73
76
79
79
64
66
74
74
74
73
SLO
EU
4
100
21
9
1998
7
7453
Madouas
Valentin
55
58
64
59
65
57
64
61
64
55
59
55
56
FRA
EU
1
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
71
72
73
65
71
73
67
66
65
68
74
68
67
FRA
EU
2
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
72
79
80
66
74
76
73
66
65
74
81
69
68
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
5
Masnada
Fausto
70
75
75
71
74
73
71
60
63
72
69
71
68
ITA
EU
4
0
6
11
1993
6
Masnada
Fausto
71
77
76
73
76
74
73
60
63
72
69
71
70
ITA
EU
4
100
6
11
1993
6
Philipsen
Jasper
69
62
69
67
70
73
64
70
72
75
67
69
69
BEL
EU
1
0
2
3
1998
7
Philipsen
Jasper
77
63
72
67
77
76
79
77
82
83
67
72
69
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
7
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
68
53
60
57
65
71
71
60
69
71
64
62
69
ITA
EU
1
0
20
7
1994
3
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
73
62
74
62
72
72
71
63
71
74
73
66
62
ITA
EU
4
0
20
7
1994
5
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
74
63
76
62
74
73
72
63
72
76
74
66
62
ITA
EU
4
100
20
7
1994
5
5523
Sarreau
Marc
68
60
64
55
69
73
64
63
69
70
63
64
68
FRA
EU
2
0
10
6
1993
4
5523
Sarreau
Marc
75
60
68
62
75
74
70
74
78
78
63
66
71
FRA
EU
4
100
10
6
1993
4
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
60
57
62
60
63
64
61
57
60
65
57
62
59
BEL
EU
1
0
2
4
1997
3
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
71
71
74
65
73
74
69
63
71
72
72
64
64
BEL
EU
2
0
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
72
78
81
66
76
78
75
63
71
78
79
67
65
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
3174
Boudat
Thomas
65
51
61
61
64
66
66
50
69
68
62
65
74
FRA
EU
2
86
22
9
1994
5
3174
Boudat
Thomas
71
63
70
62
70
72
74
65
78
79
62
65
74
FRA
EU
4
100
22
9
1994
5
1643
Consonni
Simone
68
54
64
61
68
68
66
62
71
71
69
65
61
ITA
EU
2
0
12
9
1994
4
1643
Consonni
Simone
73
60
70
66
70
74
72
67
78
79
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
0
12
9
1994
6
1643
Consonni
Simone
75
60
71
66
72
75
74
68
80
81
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
100
12
9
1994
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
60
63
59
64
56
59
63
59
60
58
63
59
58
COL
SA
1
0
1
8
1997
5
2093
Higuita
Sergio
68
65
72
64
69
72
69
60
67
70
65
63
61
COL
SA
2
0
1
8
1997
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
71
68
79
65
76
75
72
60
70
77
71
66
62
COL
SA
4
100
1
8
1997
6
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
67
55
62
61
68
68
63
61
72
73
61
66
69
GER
EU
2
0
13
6
1993
5
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
76
60
66
68
74
76
72
67
78
77
67
68
70
GER
EU
4
100
13
6
1993
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
62
56
57
61
61
61
63
61
62
61
63
55
58
COL
SA
1
0
31
10
1997
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
65
73
70
63
70
71
68
61
62
70
67
70
63
COL
SA
2
0
31
10
1997
7
6060
Sosa
Ivan
68
81
77
64
73
75
74
61
62
76
74
73
64
COL
SA
4
100
31
10
1997
7
5386
Pacher
Quentin
68
67
69
62
70
68
68
51
69
70
70
67
64
FRA
EU
3
0
6
1
1992
4
5386
Pacher
Quentin
71
68
75
63
73
73
68
60
70
74
73
69
65
FRA
EU
4
100
6
1
1992
4
570
Debusschere
Jens
70
59
67
62
70
68
66
68
74
72
69
64
70
BEL
EU
4
0
28
8
1989
5
570
Debusschere
Jens
76
61
72
63
75
76
78
78
77
77
74
73
70
BEL
EU
4
100
28
8
1989
5
3223
Harper
Chris
67
69
69
62
69
65
66
60
65
70
66
64
62
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
3
3223
Harper
Chris
70
70
71
65
70
72
67
60
66
70
73
74
66
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
6
3223
Harper
Chris
71
77
78
66
73
76
73
60
66
76
80
77
67
AUS
OC
4
100
23
11
1994
6
If riders are already in the DB, the first listed stats are their current ones.
You aren't seriously proposing that we increase twice declined Jakob Fuglsang to 78 mtn.
Not that I'd be upset to see another 78 Danish climber, but that's just hilarious.
May have put that in as a treat for you in all seriousness, while we don't tend to undo declines it is unusual to have riders like Fuglsang and Mollema who were pretty useless in game but GT top 5 contenders IRL - makes for an interesting test case
Throwing in my suggestion for Sivakov for good measure. Also something I think would be preferable would be to load in a bunch of big climbing and stage racing talent this year with the current set of declining top tiers in mind. I think that this season, in real life, we've seen which future GT contenders and climbers really shine with Bernal, Sivakov, Pogacar etc.
jph27 wrote:
Bulk order of potential additions/updates in the spoiler using the Daily DB stats as a guide with an attempt to modify for a MG context - will try do some more down the line. Don't expect any of these riders to be added 100% as they are, purely aiming for a rough guide in terms of potential abilities
Spoiler
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
67
72
69
66
61
70
64
62
66
60
70
72
66
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
5885
Fuglsang
Jakob
73
78
77
71
76
74
70
72
65
68
74
75
71
DEN
EU
4
100
22
3
1985
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
55
64
59
59
56
60
62
57
59
55
65
62
65
COL
SA
1
0
13
1
1997
5
6177
Bernal
Egan
65
74
72
68
71
71
67
60
68
73
72
68
67
COL
SA
2
0
13
1
1997
7
6177
Bernal
Egan
68
82
78
74
77
77
74
60
68
76
75
69
73
COL
SA
4
100
13
1
1997
7
6006
Mollema
Bauke
70
68
74
70
73
72
70
57
61
64
69
62
70
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
6006
Mollema
Bauke
71
78
77
72
74
70
70
64
66
71
77
69
71
NED
EU
4
100
26
11
1986
5
Pogačar
Tadej
69
71
69
65
69
72
70
64
66
71
71
73
66
SLO
EU
1
0
21
9
1998
7
Pogačar
Tadej
72
81
76
73
76
79
79
64
66
74
74
74
73
SLO
EU
4
100
21
9
1998
7
7453
Madouas
Valentin
55
58
64
59
65
57
64
61
64
55
59
55
56
FRA
EU
1
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
71
72
73
65
71
73
67
66
65
68
74
68
67
FRA
EU
2
0
12
7
1996
5
7453
Madouas
Valentin
72
79
80
66
74
76
73
66
65
74
81
69
68
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
5
Masnada
Fausto
70
75
75
71
74
73
71
60
63
72
69
71
68
ITA
EU
4
0
6
11
1993
6
Masnada
Fausto
71
77
76
73
76
74
73
60
63
72
69
71
70
ITA
EU
4
100
6
11
1993
6
Philipsen
Jasper
69
62
69
67
70
73
64
70
72
75
67
69
69
BEL
EU
1
0
2
3
1998
7
Philipsen
Jasper
77
63
72
67
77
76
79
77
82
83
67
72
69
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
7
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
68
53
60
57
65
71
71
60
69
71
64
62
69
ITA
EU
1
0
20
7
1994
3
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
73
62
74
62
72
72
71
63
71
74
73
66
62
ITA
EU
4
0
20
7
1994
5
6357
Vendrame
Andrea
74
63
76
62
74
73
72
63
72
76
74
66
62
ITA
EU
4
100
20
7
1994
5
5523
Sarreau
Marc
68
60
64
55
69
73
64
63
69
70
63
64
68
FRA
EU
2
0
10
6
1993
4
5523
Sarreau
Marc
75
60
68
62
75
74
70
74
78
78
63
66
71
FRA
EU
4
100
10
6
1993
4
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
60
57
62
60
63
64
61
57
60
65
57
62
59
BEL
EU
1
0
2
4
1997
3
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
71
71
74
65
73
74
69
63
71
72
72
64
64
BEL
EU
2
0
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
72
78
81
66
76
78
75
63
71
78
79
67
65
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
3174
Boudat
Thomas
65
51
61
61
64
66
66
50
69
68
62
65
74
FRA
EU
2
86
22
9
1994
5
3174
Boudat
Thomas
71
63
70
62
70
72
74
65
78
79
62
65
74
FRA
EU
4
100
22
9
1994
5
1643
Consonni
Simone
68
54
64
61
68
68
66
62
71
71
69
65
61
ITA
EU
2
0
12
9
1994
4
1643
Consonni
Simone
73
60
70
66
70
74
72
67
78
79
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
0
12
9
1994
6
1643
Consonni
Simone
75
60
71
66
72
75
74
68
80
81
69
66
66
ITA
EU
4
100
12
9
1994
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
60
63
59
64
56
59
63
59
60
58
63
59
58
COL
SA
1
0
1
8
1997
5
2093
Higuita
Sergio
68
65
72
64
69
72
69
60
67
70
65
63
61
COL
SA
2
0
1
8
1997
6
2093
Higuita
Sergio
71
68
79
65
76
75
72
60
70
77
71
66
62
COL
SA
4
100
1
8
1997
6
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
67
55
62
61
68
68
63
61
72
73
61
66
69
GER
EU
2
0
13
6
1993
5
5786
Walscheid
Maximilian
76
60
66
68
74
76
72
67
78
77
67
68
70
GER
EU
4
100
13
6
1993
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
62
56
57
61
61
61
63
61
62
61
63
55
58
COL
SA
1
0
31
10
1997
5
6060
Sosa
Ivan
65
73
70
63
70
71
68
61
62
70
67
70
63
COL
SA
2
0
31
10
1997
7
6060
Sosa
Ivan
68
81
77
64
73
75
74
61
62
76
74
73
64
COL
SA
4
100
31
10
1997
7
5386
Pacher
Quentin
68
67
69
62
70
68
68
51
69
70
70
67
64
FRA
EU
3
0
6
1
1992
4
5386
Pacher
Quentin
71
68
75
63
73
73
68
60
70
74
73
69
65
FRA
EU
4
100
6
1
1992
4
570
Debusschere
Jens
70
59
67
62
70
68
66
68
74
72
69
64
70
BEL
EU
4
0
28
8
1989
5
570
Debusschere
Jens
76
61
72
63
75
76
78
78
77
77
74
73
70
BEL
EU
4
100
28
8
1989
5
3223
Harper
Chris
67
69
69
62
69
65
66
60
65
70
66
64
62
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
3
3223
Harper
Chris
70
70
71
65
70
72
67
60
66
70
73
74
66
AUS
OC
2
80
23
11
1994
6
3223
Harper
Chris
71
77
78
66
73
76
73
60
66
76
80
77
67
AUS
OC
4
100
23
11
1994
6
If riders are already in the DB, the first listed stats are their current ones.
While I do like your intentions, I think these updates mostly do not really help in terms of creating special rider types. Often riders, that used to be "bad", turn into really fun guys if you adjust only a couple of stats. With Fuglsang or Mollema I don't really enjoy this remodelling into "complete" riders. Consonni is just not that good () while I would've liked another task of development for Boudat and Sarreau (updating them to lvl 4 f.e.) and not just skipping the full process. Debusschere I like a lot, but I also think he's slightly too strong here. Higuita, even more than Lambrecht in comparison, excels on mountains potentially even more than on hills. Pacher, Vendrame, Sosa, Bernal,...all look very good.
Oh, and Philipsen is not that quick, he is more of a classics sprinter
For riders that were already suggested I'd always consider the look of the stats of their directly suggesting managers over this big bunch. All in all I think you gave some very good hints on potential offseason changes, thank you for that
also I love bikex proposals, very cool ideas and also pretty reasonable imo
Aquarius97 wrote:
Why are 10 different people suggesting stats for Sivakov lol
OlegT is obviously going to have lots of competition for the signature of the only real future Russian PT class leader on the horizon given the interest folks are showing!
Maybe he'll go full cio93 mode when Herklotz appeared by not even bothering to resign half his team to clear cap space just in case!
Aquarius97 wrote:
Why are 10 different people suggesting stats for Sivakov lol
OlegT is obviously going to have lots of competition for the signature of the only real future Russian PT class leader on the horizon given the interest folks are showing!
Maybe he'll go full cio93 mode when Herklotz appeared by not even bothering to resign half his team to clear cap space just in case!
Valentin Madouas is already in the DB but is quite shit when clearly in reality he is not that. His remarkable consistency (can't remember but in a Valverde-esque way last year he had a ridiculously high number of top 30 finishes etc) shows to his strength as a great puncheur/climber who is also a fantastic roleur, he seems to specialise in FL-HI and HI-MO races and so my suggestions looks a bit less as a future top puncheur as jph has (though I think his stats are okay there) and more as a hybrid rider who could be trained to be top in any of the three but is certainly a great rider as maxed who can operate in those hybrid stages, and indeed stage races.
ID
Surname
First
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
N.
Co.
XP
XP
D
M
Year
Pot
7453
Madouas
Valentin
76
74
76
65
74
77
74
64
66
71
77
73
67
FRA
EU
3
0
12
7
1996
1
7453
Madouas
Valentin
76
77
79
65
74
79
76
64
66
74
80
73
67
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
1
7453
Madouas
Valentin
77
75
79
65
77
79
75
64
66
73
79
73
67
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
1
7453
Madouas
Valentin
76
78
77
65
76
80
76
64
66
73
79
76
67
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
1
7453
Madouas
Valentin
76
77
78
68
76
79
77
64
66
71
77
73
70
FRA
EU
4
100
12
7
1996
1
Maxes are CV1, Hill, CV2 and SR respectively.
Kent Main also exists in the DB as a future lower level CT domestique but as he has this year shown a new level of climbing prowess, and John-Lee Augustyn is about to decline, I thought he could fit the strong stage race domestique model Augustyn has in SA (which obviously De Bod should take and outstrip after his Austria performance but he won't become an FA). Has always shown a good TT on him coming 2nd to De Bod many times in South African races, and came this year 13th in Langkawi thanks to a strong showing on the Genting Highlands stage.
ID
Surname
First
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
160
Main
Kent
70
70
70
73
69
74
72
58
63
69
75
71
71
RSA
AF
3
0
8
1
1996
2
160
Main
Kent
72
72
71
75
71
75
74
58
63
69
75
71
73
RSA
AF
4
0
8
1
1996
2
160
Main
Kent
74
74
72
76
72
76
75
58
63
69
75
71
74
RSA
AF
4
100
8
1
1996
2
/Connor Brown is a good puncheur and solid on longer climbs too. Shown good potential as a top 30 finisher on the U23 Italian circuit as well as strong showings in his native South Africa. Has raced on a New Zealand license until this year when he moved to DiDa CT. Shown a good kick in escape groups before, would only reach a not so useful 76SPR but understand if that aspect of him gets lowered or removed to make him just a puncheur.
ID
Surname
First
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
Brown
Connor
70
65
67
64
64
69
62
57
67
67
67
67
62
RSA
AF
1
0
6
8
1998
5
Brown
Connor
70
65
68
64
65
70
63
57
67
68
68
67
62
RSA
AF
2
0
6
8
1998
5
Brown
Connor
71
66
70
64
67
71
64
57
68
70
69
67
62
RSA
AF
3
0
6
8
1998
5
Brown
Connor
72
67
73
65
70
72
65
57
69
72
71
68
63
RSA
AF
4
0
6
8
1998
5
Brown
Connor
73
68
75
65
72
73
66
57
70
74
72
68
63
RSA
AF
4
100
6
8
1998
5
/Robert Stannard is one of the brightest talents around on the second level below the obvious Bernals and Philipsens, and is extremely versatile, with great results in hilly to medium mountain races as well as in sprints, and also doing very well in semicobbled races, no slouch in the higher mountains as scene with a very good top 20 finish in a TDS stage, and not to mention winning TTs on the U23 scene, there's really nothing he can't do, but he seems like he'll end up a puncheur-sprinter, though he has the potential to be an all-around Trentin type as well I suppose. Born an Aussie, raised and raced a Kiwi but switched licenses a couple of years ago due to the superior system in Australia. Obviously more likely to get added as an Aussie but you can't blame me for trying Is a 98 so obviously can wait a year. May need a -1MO if that CV1 looks too good.
ID
Surname
First
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Co.
XP
XP
D
M
Year
Pot
Stannard
Robert
71
67
70
68
71
71
66
67
70
71
64
65
70
AUS
OC
1
0
16
9
98
6
Stannard
Robert
74
71
79
69
79
75
70
67
73
79
71
69
71
AUS
OC
4
x
HI
6
Stannard
Robert
72
76
78
69
74
76
73
67
70
78
73
68
71
AUS
OC
4
x
C1
6
Stannard
Robert
78
67
73
68
79
78
76
76
77
72
65
66
70
AUS
OC
4
x
CB
6
Stannard
Robert
74
76
75
75
78
78
75
67
70
74
65
66
77
AUS
OC
4
x
SR
6
Stannard
Robert
78
67
73
68
78
74
81
72
79
79
64
66
70
AUS
OC
4
x
SP
6
Stannard
Robert
78
67
75
68
78
76
69
75
70
72
72
68
70
AUS
OC
4
x
CL
6
Stannard
Robert
74
76
74
68
79
80
70
67
70
75
69
74
70
AUS
OC
4
x
C2
6
Stannard
Robert
78
68
73
77
78
80
73
67
70
71
69
66
79
AUS
OC
4
x
TT
6
Stannard
Robert
78
67
73
75
79
78
69
76
70
72
65
66
77
AUS
OC
4
x
FA
6
Stannard
Robert
80
67
73
69
78
76
69
70
74
79
73
68
71
AUS
OC
4
x
FT
6
Stannard
Robert
78
67
73
69
74
78
81
67
79
79
64
66
78
AUS
OC
4
x
TS
6
Stannard
Robert
78
67
71
77
78
79
73
67
75
74
64
66
79
AUS
OC
4
x
TR
6
Pavel Sivakov... just kidding
Also in the spoiler are my suggestions for changes to a couple of the stat gain system:
Spoiler
Hill Stage Racer
The hilly stage racer training type could be one of two things. It could be based on classics (Cobbles to HI and HI to TT or something similar), as SN I think suggested last year if it happened, or a straight swap of MON-HIL from regular stage racer. This creates an interesting rider type to have around as well as an option in combo-training. However I can see an argument against this which I couldn't see last year, as these are niche races and this saturates it a bit.
Classics Type Change
The option of a classics rider is very appealing to many but the training type isn't to me and others because of one thing in particular: the low ACC gains. The acceleration stat is key in both cobbled and hilly races and it just makes the classics type unfairly weak. I think with the absence here of MON/SPR as secondary stats for these riders it's only fair they have a good acceleration stat to make them competitive.
I really do believe that this is vital for classics as ACC is such a crucial stat in both types of stages that these riders specialise in. I don't think it would overpower the category if we take down FTR generally and COB on top riders (more on that soon) - let's take a look at a level one Kasperkiewicz for example:
Last
First
FLA
MON
HIL
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FTR
DH
PRL
Kaspa
Prem
69
66
70
70
68
70
67
72
56
65
76
67
72
Pretty clearly a cobbler with skills in the hills, and I think that trek (or whoever got him) should get the choice of a slightly more hybrid rider vs a pure cobblist (still good uphill). He's obviously not the punchiest tool in the shed but I think the hybrid option deserves to be punchier than this:
Last
First
FLA
MON
HIL
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FTR
DH
PRL
Kaspa
Prem
76
66
75
70
75
75
70
80
56
66
84
70
72
For reference his cobbles training, which gives equal ACC:
Last
First
FLA
MON
HIL
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FTR
DH
PRL
Kaspa
Prem
76
66
73
70
76
77
70
81
63
66
77
68
72
I would want a slight decrease in COB gains for pot 6/7 (as he only has one difference) and fighter gains to return the increase in acceleration - that would make sense and make sure classics doesn't become the clear better option for any cobbler with good hill or acc at level 1 - if Kasperkiewicz had 70-73ACC with that first training, but only 79 vs 81HI, that gives food for thought. Since it is already weaker in backups in fact I think it may still be weaker than cobbles here, given the small difference in HIL. Plus the sprint upgrades So maybe the COB is fine. I don't know
To quote Football Manager: I really can't stress how important I believe this to be! 1 gain for pot 5-7 and none in general is ridiculous for a classics rider! Unless you expect every classic to be decided by a solo attack made from dotting (something I don't think the AI even does ) on a long climb or stretch of cobbles. Therefore this should also be applied, even if to a lesser degree than in classics, to the cobbled rider type!.
Fighter Type Upgrade
I completely understand that the flat stat is the main stat for fighters. But the fact that they gain not much in SPR, COB and HIL is an injustice in my eyes. I know I talk about him a lot but a good example is my rider Novardianto when he was level 2:
Last
First
FLA
MON
HIL
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FTR
DH
PRL
Novardianto
Jamalidin
72
61
68
68
69
74
71
69
67
75
74
68
71
He had a great (expect FL iswastoo high...) skillset for CT breaks with decent skills on different terrains and in a sprint. Currently the best way for him to be trained to become an alright P(C)T level barodeur is Track-SPR, to give him flat skills, a decent sprint, good flat and a nice acc. But the fact is he'll never be a good to great barodeur because the fighter type, which is absolutely what he needs, offers him no weapons in his arsenal. Every good fighter should either be multifaceted with low 70s stats in cob/hi/spr (as he is but at a CT level) or really good in one terrain - like a KoM hunter with mid 70s MON and high acc/ftr. Classics is not an option even with sacrificing sprint as it gives no acc (above). Currently track-spr (which he is being trained turns him into a good flat rider and domestique:
Last
First
FLA
MON
HIL
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FTR
DH
PRL
Novardianto
Jamalidin
76
61
68
68
70
78
74
69
73
79
74
68
75
Thanks to his current skillset but doesn't do him justice as an all-around baroudeur - he doesn't even get to have a high 70s fighter stat as he should for a good baroudeur. I get he isn't destined to be one of the best, given he is pot2, but surely (even sacrificing RES and SPR slightly) he deserves something like this:
Last
First
FLA
MON
HIL
TT
STA
RES
REC
COB
SPR
ACC
FTR
DH
PRL
Novardianto
Jamalidin
76
61
71
68
72
77
72
71
70
79
78
69
71
That is the fighter training for him, with two more points on hill, cobbles and sprint. I would give more but he's a pot 2 so any more could be making the category kinda OP and useful for leaders. With these stats he's not going to win anything in any level from the favourite's group but becomes a good barodeur without being one of the best - I doubt in anything but FLA, RES, and ACC he'd be the best in whichever breakaway he joined as this would (hopefully ) be in PCT or PT for his career, which hurts me but if I make him with the stats I want you'd laugh off every one of my suggestions
Obviously this change won't affect Jams at all as he only has one more gain after this would be implemented and it would be too late for his path if it does get implemented and so he'll be training track-SPR again.
So this is certainly not me being upset one of my riders isn't going to be as good as I want him to be.
I am not sure exactly what the upgrades here would look like - that'd be for the people making these to decide (but I think my wishes for classics were clear. But I think none of these are rocking the boat, and improve the system without being anywhere near overpowered.
A couple of suggestions. Foss already in the DB, but reckon he'll get an update. Great form in the first part of the season this year. Was sick before the Peace Race and so, so we haven't seem at his best since April, but think he'll be in great shape for Avenir. Already signed by Jumbo-Visma for the next years.
Top 10 in Avenir the last two editions. Also a pretty good classics rider, with good results from Gent-Wevelgem U23 and LBL U23 for example.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
2121
Foss
Tobias
70
69
68
70
69
69
68
66
60
67
66
65
66
NOR
EU
1
0
25
5
1997
5
2121
Foss
Tobias
73
78
73
77
76
74
75
66
60
68
67
65
73
NOR
EU
4
100
25
5
1997
5
2121
Foss
Tobias
77
70
71
79
74
76
75
66
60
67
71
66
75
NOR
EU
4
100
25
5
1997
5
2121
Foss
Tobias
71
78
76
71
72
73
75
66
60
74
74
66
67
NOR
EU
4
100
25
5
1997
5
2121
Foss
Tobias
71
78
71
70
77
76
72
66
60
71
71
73
66
NOR
EU
4
100
25
5
1997
5
2121
Foss
Tobias
77
69
69
77
76
74
71
74
60
68
67
66
73
NOR
EU
4
100
25
5
1997
5
4.100 as Stage Race, Time Trial, Climberv1, Climberv2 and Fabian.
Torjus Sleen also in the DB. A good allrounder. I had a bit higher hopes for him this season, but Uno-X have been driving very good as a team and Sleen has often been sacrificing himself for Foss or Leknessund.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
78
Sleen
Torjus
69
66
67
68
65
68
68
60
63
69
70
64
66
NOR
EU
1
0
30
3
1997
4
78
Sleen
Torjus
72
69
75
69
72
72
71
60
64
74
75
65
67
NOR
EU
4
100
30
3
1997
4
78
Sleen
Torjus
70
73
72
75
70
73
75
60
63
70
71
65
73
NOR
EU
4
100
30
3
1997
4
78
Sleen
Torjus
76
67
70
75
70
75
73
60
63
69
75
64
73
NOR
EU
4
100
30
3
1997
4
4.100 as Hills, Stage Race and Time Trial.
Riders like Lars Saugstad and Erlend Blikra could also be additions, but at least for the latter I would like to see how he fares the next weeks/months. He was a super talent as a junior rider, but has had a lot of injuries/sickness the latest years. But then he "suddenly" won three stages in a Polish race last week.
Sykkel_Freak wrote:
I'll start with three suggestions, more might follow later. These riders are pretty well known, but I can't say I've followed them closely or seen a lot of them, so feel free to let me know if my stat suggestions are way off
Spoiler
Jasper Philipsen: First and foremost a sprinter of course, with a range of top 5's this year from small and big races. Won Paris - Tours Espoirs in 2017. Six out of seven Belgian MG rider with 80+ sprint is 30 years or older, so 80 potential in sprints shouldn't be a problem. In addition, he's a pretty good cobbler, achieved top 5's in both Paris - Roubaix Espoirs and Ronde van Vlaanderen Beloften. Also delivered good TT's as a junior, x2 national champion and 6th in the WC time trial in Richmond. Training examples below: sprint, cobbles, track-sprint and fabian.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
x
Philipsen
Jasper
67
57
64
67
67
67
65
68
71
72
63
61
67
BEL
EU
1
0
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
58
67
67
74
70
80
73
80
80
63
62
67
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
57
67
67
75
74
75
77
78
73
64
62
67
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
57
67
68
70
74
77
68
80
80
63
62
75
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
57
67
75
75
74
68
77
71
73
64
62
74
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
Bjorg Lambrecht: His most impressive performances as a pro has been in the hills, with a 6th place in Amstel and 4th in Flèche Wallonne this year. In the mountains, he's been very consistent and won the white jersey in Dauphine for example. He finished 2nd behind Bernal in l'Avenir 2017 and been top 10 in Valle d'Aosta twice, with a second place as best. Was also second in the WC U23 road race in Innsbruck. Usually well placed in the peloton, thus warranting a decent flat stat, but does not seem to favor TT's or long races. Training examples below: stage race, climberv1, climberv2, hills.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
67
70
70
63
66
70
67
62
64
68
61
64
61
BEL
EU
1
0
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
70
79
76
70
74
77
76
62
64
71
62
65
68
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
68
79
78
64
69
75
74
62
64
75
70
67
62
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
70
79
73
63
74
79
71
62
64
72
66
75
61
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
70
74
79
64
74
74
71
62
67
76
68
67
62
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
Tim Merlier: Cyclocrosser who's proven himself to be a very fast sprinter. Won the Belgian NC and Elstedenronde this year, and two stages in Danmark Rundt last year. Also done well in the Tour of Belgium sprints the past couple of years, beating Philipsen and Jakobsen on several occasions. Unfortunately he's not been riding the biggest of races, so hard to say how fast he really is, around 76 is probably fair, but perhaps also a bit conservative. Training examples below: sprint, cobbles, classics.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
6232
Merlier
Tim
70
56
67
58
69
69
60
71
72
71
63
72
60
BEL
EU
3
0
30
10
1992
4
6232
Merlier
Tim
75
56
68
58
72
70
70
74
76
75
63
73
60
BEL
EU
4
100
30
10
1992
4
6232
Merlier
Tim
74
56
68
58
73
72
69
75
75
74
64
72
60
BEL
EU
4
100
30
10
1992
4
6232
Merlier
Tim
74
56
70
58
72
71
62
75
72
71
67
73
60
BEL
EU
4
100
30
10
1992
4
3 very nice riders I was going to suggest myself, well done! Just going to add a few more comments. Philipsen will become a sprinter I think, he's good on cobbles but he's not world class. I think he'd do best in munchy sprints, so I'd up his hill a bit as well. In my opinion, he should be a slightly better version of the current Tom Van Asbroeck. And sign for my team
Lambrecht is more of a puncheur then a climber in my opinion, Dan Martin / Dani Moreno type. Add 1 to his base hill stat and it's fine I think, also a huge talent so starting of with 71 hill should be fine in my opinion. Lastly, he should also sign for my team.
Merlier has been the fastest Belgian sprinter for a few years now, so looking at the numbers other sprinters get, I think he could be a little higher than what you suggest. You can have this one then.
Back from holyday, will do some more catching up tomorrow.
Thanks for feedback!
I agree with all of your suggestions I think. Having thought more about Merlier, he probably needs 78-79 in sprint and acceleration to even contest sprints in CT, so that's probably closer to where he should be. Lambrecht +1 hill is probably fair, and Philipsen's hill stat should probably also be higher, though there's a balance there where you wouldn't want him to be developed as a puncheur. They will both sign for my team btw.
A couple of more stat suggestions for two riders already added to the DB. Again feedback is appreciated as I haven't watched these riders much.
Spoiler
Steff Cras: A climber that is also alright against the clock. In 2016 he was 5th in Ronde de l'Isard, 4th in Tour Alsace and 5th in l'Avenir, even with Lambrecht on the team. Still awaiting his real breakthrough as a pro, but top 10's in Arctic Race and Okolo Slovenska from 2018 and an 11th place in the Tour of Oman GC this year, shows promise. Not too many Belgian climbers/GC riders in the DB, so this would be a good addition imo. Training examples below: stage race, climberv1, climberv2.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
3343
Cras
Steff
65
69
67
66
66
69
70
58
60
66
60
66
63
BEL
EU
1
0
13
2
1996
5
3343
Cras
Steff
68
78
72
73
73
74
77
58
60
67
61
67
70
BEL
EU
4
100
13
2
1996
5
3343
Cras
Steff
66
78
75
67
69
73
77
58
60
73
68
67
64
BEL
EU
4
100
13
2
1996
5
3343
Cras
Steff
66
78
70
66
74
76
74
58
60
70
65
74
63
BEL
EU
4
100
13
2
1996
5
Lionel Taminiaux: Versatile rider, with many good results from one-day races. Seems to get his best results in reduced bunch sprints, and handles both hills and cobbles very well. Fairly good fighting spirit as well, illustrated by his KoM jersey win in 4 Jours de Dunkerque this year and late attack in Scheldeprijs. Has a range of top 20's this year from 1.1 races, and has previously been top 10 in Paris - Roubaix Espoirs and Omloop Het Nieuwsblaad Beloften. Training examples below: sprint, hill, cobbles, classics, fighter.
Sykkel_Freak wrote:
I'll start with three suggestions, more might follow later. These riders are pretty well known, but I can't say I've followed them closely or seen a lot of them, so feel free to let me know if my stat suggestions are way off
Spoiler
Jasper Philipsen: First and foremost a sprinter of course, with a range of top 5's this year from small and big races. Won Paris - Tours Espoirs in 2017. Six out of seven Belgian MG rider with 80+ sprint is 30 years or older, so 80 potential in sprints shouldn't be a problem. In addition, he's a pretty good cobbler, achieved top 5's in both Paris - Roubaix Espoirs and Ronde van Vlaanderen Beloften. Also delivered good TT's as a junior, x2 national champion and 6th in the WC time trial in Richmond. Training examples below: sprint, cobbles, track-sprint and fabian.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
x
Philipsen
Jasper
67
57
64
67
67
67
65
68
71
72
63
61
67
BEL
EU
1
0
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
58
67
67
74
70
80
73
80
80
63
62
67
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
57
67
67
75
74
75
77
78
73
64
62
67
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
57
67
68
70
74
77
68
80
80
63
62
75
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
x
Philipsen
Jasper
74
57
67
75
75
74
68
77
71
73
64
62
74
BEL
EU
4
100
2
3
1998
6
Bjorg Lambrecht: His most impressive performances as a pro has been in the hills, with a 6th place in Amstel and 4th in Flèche Wallonne this year. In the mountains, he's been very consistent and won the white jersey in Dauphine for example. He finished 2nd behind Bernal in l'Avenir 2017 and been top 10 in Valle d'Aosta twice, with a second place as best. Was also second in the WC U23 road race in Innsbruck. Usually well placed in the peloton, thus warranting a decent flat stat, but does not seem to favor TT's or long races. Training examples below: stage race, climberv1, climberv2, hills.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
67
70
70
63
66
70
67
62
64
68
61
64
61
BEL
EU
1
0
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
70
79
76
70
74
77
76
62
64
71
62
65
68
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
68
79
78
64
69
75
74
62
64
75
70
67
62
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
70
79
73
63
74
79
71
62
64
72
66
75
61
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
198
Lambrecht
Bjorg
70
74
79
64
74
74
71
62
67
76
68
67
62
BEL
EU
4
100
2
4
1997
6
Tim Merlier: Cyclocrosser who's proven himself to be a very fast sprinter. Won the Belgian NC and Elstedenronde this year, and two stages in Danmark Rundt last year. Also done well in the Tour of Belgium sprints the past couple of years, beating Philipsen and Jakobsen on several occasions. Unfortunately he's not been riding the biggest of races, so hard to say how fast he really is, around 76 is probably fair, but perhaps also a bit conservative. Training examples below: sprint, cobbles, classics.
ID
Surname
First name
Fl
Mo
Hl
TT
St
Rs
Rc
Cb
Sp
Ac
Ft
Dh
Pl
Nat.
Cont.
XP Level
XP Points
D
M
Year
Pot
6232
Merlier
Tim
70
56
67
58
69
69
60
71
72
71
63
72
60
BEL
EU
3
0
30
10
1992
4
6232
Merlier
Tim
75
56
68
58
72
70
70
74
76
75
63
73
60
BEL
EU
4
100
30
10
1992
4
6232
Merlier
Tim
74
56
68
58
73
72
69
75
75
74
64
72
60
BEL
EU
4
100
30
10
1992
4
6232
Merlier
Tim
74
56
70
58
72
71
62
75
72
71
67
73
60
BEL
EU
4
100
30
10
1992
4
3 very nice riders I was going to suggest myself, well done! Just going to add a few more comments. Philipsen will become a sprinter I think, he's good on cobbles but he's not world class. I think he'd do best in munchy sprints, so I'd up his hill a bit as well. In my opinion, he should be a slightly better version of the current Tom Van Asbroeck. And sign for my team
Lambrecht is more of a puncheur then a climber in my opinion, Dan Martin / Dani Moreno type. Add 1 to his base hill stat and it's fine I think, also a huge talent so starting of with 71 hill should be fine in my opinion. Lastly, he should also sign for my team.
Merlier has been the fastest Belgian sprinter for a few years now, so looking at the numbers other sprinters get, I think he could be a little higher than what you suggest. You can have this one then.
Back from holyday, will do some more catching up tomorrow.
Thanks for feedback!
I agree with all of your suggestions I think. Having thought more about Merlier, he probably needs 78-79 in sprint and acceleration to even contest sprints in CT, so that's probably closer to where he should be. Lambrecht +1 hill is probably fair, and Philipsen's hill stat should probably also be higher, though there's a balance there where you wouldn't want him to be developed as a puncheur. They will both sign for my team btw.
Akmal Hakim has a history of track results and seems to be developing into a sprinter. I have tried to give him stats that would end up as a leadout man with a semi decent TT, due to his TT results and Track Background and have used Awang as a base but made him a weaker version to signify that he would be maxing more as a leadout man than main sprinter like Awang used to be. Hopefully the stats I’ve suggested for him when dropped back to level 1 still look best for Track Sprint Training.
I’ve had another look at Zariff after Bikex’s comments and I criminally underrated his ability on tougher stages, I wouldn’t be against him having the stats Bikex Suggested, especially as after a little digging I’ve found a Malaysian Sprinter with more sprint results who would be more deserving of being Salleh’s successor.
That man would be…
Mohamad Izzat Hilmi Abdul Halil, MAS 18/09/1995
Although as he isn’t L’Avenir eligible I’d like him to start on level 2 instead of level 1; he is a lot weaker on Mountains and hills than Zariff so would better fit the stats I previously posted for the next Malaysian sprinter.
I've reposted the same stats previously suggested for Zariff but with the name and DOB change as he is a far better fit for them than Zariff was.
It should be Akmal Hakim as the first name and Zakaria as the lastname. Malaysia uses a Patronym naming convention so it would be a double first name and the fathers name as the surname.
viking90 wrote:
I´m just throwing a name out here so anybody with better knowledge about him can make up some stats...?!
Hannes Bergström Frisk - 1995-06-07
Best result so far
5th in GC at Tour du Maroc (2.2) 2019
11th GC Tour of Qinghai Lake (2.HC) 2018
Haven't got time to make actual stats but he is a classic GC rider with very little punch but good RES. Good TT.
Would say his younger brother Erik so far looks like he will become better than Hannes (right now they are fairly equal)
Realizing I won't get around to making proper stats I'll just throw in a but how I see Hannes maxing in key stats.
Mtn: 77
Hi: 75
TT: 76
Acc: 65
Spr: 60
Res: 75
Rec: 76
Based on how he rides the domestic races making it hard for a long time with many increases of speed as well as the fact that he have done well in Tour of Qinghai Lake two years in a row (finished 11th this year as well) showing no signs of breaking towards the end thus deserving a high REC.
Could make sense to add him at lvl 2 given his age.
Erik Bergström Frisk (1999) should be added within two seasons as the next big GC rider from Sweden. IRL he is already stronger and more versatile than Hannes. Also a couple of young sprinters in the pipeline from Sweden still to young to be added.
In general a few more half-decent Swedish riders could be good as several teams want Swedes and it's hard to find anyone even remotely sign-able even for CT level. I have few suggestions for that: Hannes Forsby (1996): as a potential future PCT level rouleur domestique kind of guy. Former U23 CX champion. https://firstcycl...hp?r=48640
Emil Andersson (1993): Low level sprinter, CT-leadout kind of guy. Good results in some Finnish races this year as well as the Swedish UCI races. https://firstcycl...hp?r=13790
Staffan Arvidsson McShane (1990): Solid TT'er, rouleur kind of guy. Should be added at at least lvl 3.
Apart from Jaako Hänninen as a future Finnish star (adressed in previous post) there's a couple of options for increased depth in Finland. Sauli Pietikäinen (1996) is already in the DB as completely worthless both now and in the future. He have ridden well in France this season even taking a few wins. Suggest upping in TT and hills to make him able to become a decent domestique on hills and for TTT'ing.
Jesper Lindahl (1997): Seems to be a pretty all-round domestique type.
Croatia14 wrote:
While I do like your intentions, I think these updates mostly do not really help in terms of creating special rider types. Often riders, that used to be "bad", turn into really fun guys if you adjust only a couple of stats. With Fuglsang or Mollema I don't really enjoy this remodelling into "complete" riders. Consonni is just not that good () while I would've liked another task of development for Boudat and Sarreau (updating them to lvl 4 f.e.) and not just skipping the full process. Debusschere I like a lot, but I also think he's slightly too strong here. Higuita, even more than Lambrecht in comparison, excels on mountains potentially even more than on hills. Pacher, Vendrame, Sosa, Bernal,...all look very good.
Oh, and Philipsen is not that quick, he is more of a classics sprinter
For riders that were already suggested I'd always consider the look of the stats of their directly suggesting managers over this big bunch. All in all I think you gave some very good hints on potential offseason changes, thank you for that
also I love bikex proposals, very cool ideas and also pretty reasonable imo
Thanks for the feedback, my suggestions were definitely far from perfect so it helps to have someone to make them a bit more reasonable I agree that it's more valuable to have the more detailed suggestions, I just wanted to highlight potential options for additions/updates
As it happens, have had a bit too much free time over the last couple of nights so I came up with a pretty huge number more potential additions/updates, largely at a lower level (though a few potential top riders in there). And couldn't resist adding Sivakov at the end to continue the trend Feedback is of course welcomed
I would really like Vingegaard to be changed into a climber rather than puncheur. Also I believe he should be maxing at 78 MO as the biggest Danish climbing prospect.
this are his stats right now:
in all seriousness, while we don't tend to undo declines it is unusual to have riders like Fuglsang and Mollema who were pretty useless in game but GT top 5 contenders IRL - makes for an interesting test case 
Hannes Forsby (1996): as a potential future PCT level rouleur domestique kind of guy. Former U23 CX champion.
Sauli Pietikäinen (1996) is already in the DB as completely worthless both now and in the future. He have ridden well in France this season even taking a few wins. Suggest upping in TT and hills to make him able to become a decent domestique on hills and for TTT'ing.
