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Etoile de Besseges Discussion
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 11-09-2018 22:36
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The Etoile de Besseges was a late entry to the 2018 calendar, providing an additional opportunity for the puncheurs of the peloton. It's the return of an old name, last seen professionally back in the 2010 season.
Back then, a Level 3 rider with 76 sprint sprung a surprise by winning the first two stages. He would go on to finish 4th overall, and achieve many other things. I think his name was Sam? Just the one hill stage that year, which Francesco Ginanni won, guiding him to the GC win. It's interesting to see some of the names that were also well placed in the overall classification that year:
Spoiler | 1 | Francesco Ginanni | Vespa-Caffrey's | 14h19'57 | | 2 | Francisco Ventoso | Santander | + 18 | | 3 | Jurgen Vandenbroeck | Molteni | + 26 | | 4 | Sam Bewley | M&M Cycling | + 30 | | 5 | Pierrick Fédrigo | Nespresso - SportZone | + 1'10 | | 6 | Tejay Van Garderen | Wal-Mart Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 7 | Nicolas Roche | 100% ME | s.t. | | 8 | Simon Gaywood | 100% ME | + 1'45 | | 9 | Andrea Pagoto | Vespa-Caffrey's | + 1'47 | | 10 | Luca Mazzanti | Molteni | + 1'49 | | 11 | Francisco Colorado | Sport Lisboa e Benfica - Michelin | s.t. | | 12 | Claudio Corioni | Team Energie - Diesel | + 2'02 | | 13 | Paolo Scarponi | Wiggle Pro Cycling Team | + 2'13 | | 14 | Ben Gastauer | Nokia-Nike | s.t. | | 15 | Igor Astarloa | Team Energie - Diesel | + 2'17 | | 16 | Ivan Rovny | Wiggle Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 17 | Nolan Hoffman | Nespresso - SportZone | + 2'38 | | 18 | Matteo Priamo | EON Ruhrgas | + 2'42 | | 19 | Jérome Giaux | Wal-Mart Pro Cycling Team | + 2'46 | | 20 | Maurizio Biondo | Team Energie - Diesel | s.t. | | 21 | Ben Swift | 100% ME | s.t. | | 22 | Bruno Neves | Sport Lisboa e Benfica - Michelin | s.t. | | 23 | Adil Jelloul | Nespresso - SportZone | + 2'48 | | 24 | Hugo Sabido | Wal-Mart Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 25 | Massimo Iannetti | M&M Cycling | + 2'50 | | 26 | Chris Froome | 100% ME | s.t. | | 27 | Aitor Perez Arrieta | Santander | + 2'52 | | 28 | Yannick Stoltz | Team Ultimate | s.t. | | 29 | Tom Last | Nokia-Nike | s.t. | | 30 | Paolo Bettini | Vespa-Caffrey's | + 2'54 | | 31 | Lorenzo Bernucci | Vespa-Caffrey's | s.t. | | 32 | Mauro Richeze | Nespresso - SportZone | s.t. | | 33 | Simone Ponzi | Wiggle Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 34 | Jean-Patrick Nazon | M&M Cycling | s.t. | | 35 | Martijn Maaskant | Wal-Mart Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 36 | Bert De Waele | Molteni | s.t. | | 37 | Jelle Wallays | Wal-Mart Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 38 | Alessandro Proni | Vespa-Caffrey's | s.t. | | 39 | Andrew Tennant | 100% ME | s.t. | | 40 | Mickaël Delage | EON Ruhrgas | s.t. |
Ginanni, Van Garderen, Gastauer, Froome and Ponzi are all riders who could have done well in the race this year, but most are up in the ProTour now, and none of them are here.
Let's turn our attention back to this year then.
Three hill stages to compete. Stage 1 is arguably the easiest; Stage 2 offers a longer hill to create some gaps - but does end slightly after the summit. Then Stage 3 with consecutive climbs in the closing stages, and an uphill finish to end it.
| Team | D | #1 | Hill | #2 | Hill | | ENI - MOL | CT |  Di Maggio | 82 | Serry | 78 | | Kraftwerk Man Machine | PCT |  Flügel | 81 | Mehr-Wenige | 78 | | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | PCT |  Anuar Aziz | 81 | Grippo | 77 | | Team Reddit | PCT |  Lutsenko | 81 | Smit | 75 | | Ayubowan! | PCT |  McCarthy | 81 | Pushpakumara | 74 | | Nordstrom - BioWare | PCT |  Dowsett | 80 | Pichon | 79 | | World Cycling Centre | PCT |  Betancourt | 80 | Boily | 78 | | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | PCT |  Izagirre | 80 | Gougeard | 77 | | Generali - EDF | PCT |  Ulissi | 80 | Lavery | 76 | | Valio - DeLaval | CT |  Gautier | 80 | Paajanen | 75 | | Repsol - Netflix | PCT |  Bystrom | 79 | Barrio | 79 | | Azteca - NBCSN | PCT |  Chaves | 79 | Nzeke | 76 | | Campari - Super Dry | CT |  Ben Nasser | 79 | Kebede | 76 | | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | PCT |  Prevar | 79 | Orlov | 76 | | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | PCT |  Juul-Jensen | 78 | Stuyven | 77 | | Minions | PCT |  Quevedo | 78 | Selander | 76 | | Netia - Vónin | PCT |  Dyrnes | 78 | Honkisz | 76 | | Carrefour - ESPN | PCT |  Palini | 78 | Castroviejo | 75 | | Equinor Pro Cycling | CT |  Teklit | 77 | Bugge | 75 | | Philips - Continental | PCT |  Dieteren | 77 | Costa | 75 | | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | PCT |  Dall'Oste | 76 | Cerny | 75 | | Meiji - JR East | PCT |  Hatanaka | 75 | Mutsumine | 75 | | Signal Iduna | A |  Bissinger | 71 | Kal | 70 | | Risa-Ergon | A |  Andersson | 71 | Landa | 67 |
Just 4 of the PCT division's 7 81 Hill riders are here - Kinoshita, Schreurs and Froome being the absentees.
There's still going to be a good battle then, and a renewal of rivalries from the Tour de Pologone. Ulissi edged out Anuar Aziz there, while Lutsenko wanted more than 4th, with Flügel and McCarthy also hoping to improve on their Top 6 GC placings.
The CT division also brings a challenge. Gautier is back to strike fear into the PCT riders, having already bested Ulissi and others at the Tour Down Under; while Di Maggio stands out with his 82 Hill stat, albeit weaker support stats.
And as the table above shows, those are many others capable of fighting for victory and results here in France.
Meanwhile the top four candidates for the U25 jersey will be Gougeard, Paulus, Dieteren and Tanovitchii. But there's also Cerny (2nd U25 in Pologne, behind teammate Moscon) and an interesting alternative possibility of
Carthy.
Full rider list:
Spoiler | Atkins | Josh | Ayubowan! | | Bettiol | Alberto | Ayubowan! | | Carthy | Hugh | Ayubowan! | | Chatarunga | Sameera | Ayubowan! | | McCarthy | Jay | Ayubowan! | | Pushpakumara | Gihan | Ayubowan! | | Turgis | Anthony | Ayubowan! | | Anderberg | Hampus | Azteca - NBCSN | | Chaves | Johan Esteban | Azteca - NBCSN | | Cowan | Alexander | Azteca - NBCSN | | Errazkin | Xuban | Azteca - NBCSN | | Nzeke | Geremie | Azteca - NBCSN | | Roberge | Adam | Azteca - NBCSN | | Tivani | German Nicolas | Azteca - NBCSN | | Weiss | Ethan | Azteca - NBCSN | | Ben Nasser | Hassen | Campari - Super Dry | | Johansson | Freddy | Campari - Super Dry | | Kebede | Estifanos | Campari - Super Dry | | Lasca | Francisco | Campari - Super Dry | | Matsumoto | Yosukue | Campari - Super Dry | | Rocchetti | Federico | Campari - Super Dry | | Rosa | Diego | Campari - Super Dry | | Yamamoto | Masaki | Campari - Super Dry | | Asgreen | Kasper | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | De Maar | Marc | Carlsberg - Danske bank | | Hansen | Jesper | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Juul-Jensen | Christopher | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Pons | Gaëtan | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Sinkeldam | Ramon | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Stuyven | Jasper | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Tiller | Rasmus | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Aulas | Alexandre | Carrefour - ESPN | | Banaszek | Alan | Carrefour - ESPN | | Bercz | Patrick | Carrefour - ESPN | | Castroviejo | Jonathan | Carrefour - ESPN | | Crncevic | Aleksa | Carrefour - ESPN | | Palini | Andrea | Carrefour - ESPN | | Petelin | Jan Drago | Carrefour - ESPN | | Restrepo | Jhonatan | Carrefour - ESPN | | Amanuel | Meron | ENI - MOL | | Cahyadi | Aiman | ENI - MOL | | Di Maggio | Cesare | ENI - MOL | | Lovassy | Krisztian | ENI - MOL | | Mancuso | Salvatore | ENI - MOL | | Michely | Kim | ENI - MOL | | Serry | Pieter | ENI - MOL | | Skjerping | Kristoffer | ENI - MOL | | Afoa | Daniel | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Bugge | Vegard Robinson | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Kangangi | Suleiman | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Løvik | Ã…smund Romstad | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Skaarseth | Anders | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Taborre | Fabio | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Teklit | Tesfar | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Warlop | Jordi | Equinor Pro Cycling | | Bille | Gaëtan | Generali - EDF | | Canola | Marco | Generali - EDF | | Hermans | Ben | Generali - EDF | | Lavery | Philip | Generali - EDF | | Molard | Rudy | Generali - EDF | | Silva | Rafael | Generali - EDF | | Tanovitchii | Nicolae | Generali - EDF | | Ulissi | Diego | Generali - EDF | | Gallego Martin | Juan Abenhamar | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Gougeard | Alexis | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Izagirre | Ion | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Jans | Roy | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Kulimbetov | Nurbolat | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Latour | Pierre | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Nych | Artem | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Oelerich | Jan | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Anuar Aziz | Mohamed Shawal | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Arifin | Muhammad Imam | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Augustyn | John-Lee | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Belmokhtar | Abdelkader | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | De Souza | Christopher | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Grippo | Chiaffredo | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Khalilikhosroshani | Behnam | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Maes | Nikolas | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Denz | Nico | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Flügel | Aleksandar | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Mehr-Wenige | Dietmar | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Paulus | Daniel | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Politt | Nils | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Scheit | Florian | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Shushemoin | Alexandre | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Walsleben | Max | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Biermans | Jenthe | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Cerny | Josef | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Dall'Oste | Daniele | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | De Plus | Laurens | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Dewulf | Stan | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Savini | Daniel | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Vanbilsen | Kenneth | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Verhelst | Louis | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Hatanaka | Yusuke | Meiji - JR East | | Hatsuyama | Sho | Meiji - JR East | | Hiratsuka | Yoshimitsu | Meiji - JR East | | Kuboki | Kazushige | Meiji - JR East | | Kuroeda | Shiki | Meiji - JR East | | Mutsumine | Wataru | Meiji - JR East | | Shirota | Yamato | Meiji - JR East | | Uchima | Kouhei | Meiji - JR East | | Albert | Niels | Minions | | De Haes | Kenny | Minions | | Flaksis | Andzs | Minions | | Marcos | Leandro | Minions | | Quevedo | Xavier | Minions | | Schinker | Nico | Minions | | Selander | Bjorn | Minions | | Zepuntke | Ruben | Minions | | Cherkasov | Nicolay | Netia - Vónin | | Dyrnes | Kristian | Netia - Vónin | | Honkisz | Adrian | Netia - Vónin | | Kolev | Iliyan | Netia - Vónin | | Konovalovas | Ignas | Netia - Vónin | | Malecki | Kamil | Netia - Vónin | | Menten | Milan | Netia - Vónin | | Stachowiak | Adam | Netia - Vónin | | Anderson | Ryan | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Diggle | Tom | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Dowsett | Alex | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Gaspar | João | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Pellaud | Simon | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Pichon | Laurent | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Rybakov | Alexander | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Villella | Davide | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Allegaert | Piet | Philips - Continental | | Costa | Jaoa | Philips - Continental | | Dieteren | Jan | Philips - Continental | | Hofstede | Lennard | Philips - Continental | | Jung | Ha Jeon | Philips - Continental | | Mai | Christoph | Philips - Continental | | Müller | Patrick | Philips - Continental | | Navardauskas | Ramunas | Philips - Continental | | Agostini | Stefano | Repsol - Netflix | | Barrio | Sergio | Repsol - Netflix | | Bystrom | Sven Erik | Repsol - Netflix | | Duchesne | Antoine | Repsol - Netflix | | Levarlet | Guillaume | Repsol - Netflix | | McKenna | Sean | Repsol - Netflix | | RodrÃguez | Cristian | Repsol - Netflix | | Roelandts | Jurgen | Repsol - Netflix | | Andersson | Lars | Risa-Ergon | | Antonijevic | Goran | Risa-Ergon | | Giacoppo | Anthony | Risa-Ergon | | Jensen | August | Risa-Ergon | | Jørgensen | Jonas Aaen | Risa-Ergon | | Landa | Oscar Emil | Risa-Ergon | | Lilholt | Guytan | Risa-Ergon | | Røinas | Fridtjof | Risa-Ergon | | Ambrose | Scott | Signal Iduna | | Bissinger | Florian | Signal Iduna | | Kal | Mirac | Signal Iduna | | Kortsidakis | Michail | Signal Iduna | | Meersman | Gianni | Signal Iduna | | Pszczolarski | Wojciech | Signal Iduna | | Sakala | Yanjanani | Signal Iduna | | Vaidem | Joosten | Signal Iduna | | Dzhus | Volodymyr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Golovash | Oleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Hamilton | Chris | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Kanepejs | Deins | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Kononenko | Mykhaylo | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | O'Connor | Ben | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Orlov | Andriy | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Prevar | Oleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Fominykh | Daniil | Team Reddit | | Frankiny | Kilian | Team Reddit | | Lutsenko | Alexey | Team Reddit | | Manfredi | Andrea | Team Reddit | | Monk | Cyrus | Team Reddit | | Schoonbroodt | Bob | Team Reddit | | Smit | Willie | Team Reddit | | Varga | Peter | Team Reddit | | Aaltio | Risto | Valio - DeLaval | | Brynjolfsson | Kari | Valio - DeLaval | | Gautier | Cyril | Valio - DeLaval | | Omarsson | Ingvar | Valio - DeLaval | | Paajanen | Paavo | Valio - DeLaval | | Pökälä | Samuel | Valio - DeLaval | | Yechezkel | Aviv | Valio - DeLaval | | Betancourt | Carlos | World Cycling Centre | | Boily | David | World Cycling Centre | | Feng | Chun Kai | World Cycling Centre | | Juarez | Daniel | World Cycling Centre | | Redecker | Heiko | World Cycling Centre | | Rodriguez Galindo | Michael | World Cycling Centre | | Russo | Evgeny | World Cycling Centre | | Thomson | Jay | World Cycling Centre |
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Posted on 11-09-2018 22:41
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How will Di Maggio, Gautier and Ben Nasser will fare is the question.. many teams do rely on this race in a desperate need for success, it's bound to be a dramatic one, and, as in every hilly race, action packed too!
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 11-09-2018 22:51
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Highly improbable, but i'd love to see my gamble on bringing Roelandts here work. First stage should be ideal for a rider like him, the issue could be the IA ignores him, and with all hilly stages, IA doesn't consider him as a sprinter, rather as another domestique for Bystrom.
Then, a Top15 for Bystrom like in Pologne could be a decent result, with hopefully some depth around and a good place in Teams standings. And breakaways of course
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| tastasol |
Posted on 11-09-2018 23:01
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No chances for us here, so just hoping we can get in the breaks. Other than that, it looks like a terrific field. Hope to see Ulissi continuing his good season and I think IT also should be a good profile for Juul-Jensen, so hopefully he can achieve something.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-09-2018 00:47
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Hoping for more aggression than I saw in Poland.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 12-09-2018 00:54
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Wow, I was scared I sent Kinoshita here, based on the opening of the preview for a second. I just dont think the hills will be selective enough to warrant bringing him here, so this will probably end up being one of our worse races of the year. Glad most other 81s are here, probably means we will avoid them later on somewhere.
Kuboki could have a chance at stage 1, although it may end up being a little too hard for him.
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 12-09-2018 05:51
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Probably not hard enough hills for Anuar Aziz and will suit a rider with a better kick like Lutsenko I think. Don’t really see how he could lose this race. Top-5 backing up from Poland from AA would be wonderful though! Has a decent enough team behind him to achieve that.
Wonder if Gautier will be able to recreate his TDU accolades as wel?
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Posted on 12-09-2018 06:55
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A little surprised that Navardauskas wasn't mentioned in the preview instead of Costa but it's not as if either is likely to get much out of this race. I wish they prove me wrong though  Time for Dieteren to step up perhaps. He's been a bit disappointing so far. Originally had intended Rui to be here, but things changed elsewhere and this is what we are going with.
Thanks for the preview SN 
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 12-09-2018 07:34
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Hoping Prevar can do something here, top 10 would be very nice. Top 15 more or less needed.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 12-09-2018 08:39
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I brought Cerny as leader here for his Hill/Acc/Spr combo, but seeing how he's talked about in the preview, this was probably a bad gamble. I really hope the AI doesn't go for Dall'Oste as my team leader.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 12-09-2018 10:07
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Brought out the entire Hills gang for the first time this season, lets see if pays off.
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Posted on 12-09-2018 10:26
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February was supposed to be the month we'd end well above the relegation mark, but it's been average at best. Therefore all pressure will be on this race, especially with the weaker startlist than I expected for a 3-day stage race.
Lutsenko has to do it here, the short stages with possible small bunch sprints make it look like this race was made for him. Though I feel like these kind of races are always prone for successful early attacks by outsiders. Fingers crossed. |
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 12-09-2018 10:30
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I'd like Dyrnes to do alright, but honestly, I'm not going to expect heaps from him, but with Honkisz, Kono and Stachowiak too, I'd like to see some attacks!
I'm actually kinda thinking Gautier will win this, would be big for Valio. Thanks for the preview SN!
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 12-09-2018 14:22
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Com'on Ben you can make a top 10 here....can't you ?
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 12-09-2018 17:05
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Here because I needed to fill the racedays and Quevedo had some left, going in with absolutely zero expectations.
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| Vien |
Posted on 12-09-2018 18:39
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Eh. Good to see Lutsenko trying I guess, but this stage was simply too flat. No problems though, although we might need some time gaps to beat Ulissi now.
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Posted on 12-09-2018 18:41
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Well, Roelandts' gamble didn't paid off. IA didn't treat him like a sprinter, so he was badly placed and could get 20th. Bystrom in the Top10 is a good sign for latter stages though
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 12-09-2018 18:43
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Ulissi wins a sprint? Looking forward to Matt's reaction
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 12-09-2018 19:05
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Well done O'Connor, let's show our jersey a bit in breaks
Prevar safely near the front, just as we would expect.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 12-09-2018 19:12
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Well, Kuboki did what I expected of him, but in the end I think he faded a little too much before the line. Nearly grabbed a very solid result though, but even 12th is acceptable.
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