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What type of route?
Cobbles Cobbles 49%[21 Votes]
Flat Flat 21%[9 Votes]
Hill Hill 30%[13 Votes]
Total Votes : 43
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World Championships 2016 Route Vote - Part 1
roturn
Time to start the World Champs planning, with a vote on the terrain type.

History:
2015: Mountain
2014: Flat
2013: Hill
2012: Cobbles
2011: Hill
2010: Mountain
2009: Hill (Flat finish)
2008: Hill

Vote on exact location/route will follow once there is a clear winner here. Please nominate suggestions for routes in this thread.

Generally the ITT and TTT routes will match the RR course.
 
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Voted for cobbles and I think the East Midlands Circle Classic would be a great route

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My logic for voting cobbles: the second most recent event has been flat with it happening in 2014, and we have had 4 hilly editions and the Olympic Games following a hilly route as expected.

A cobbled route, however, was only presented in 2012, and it definitely wasn't hard enough to really make a selection between the top tier specialists and those that could just hang in during the short-ish cobbled sections.
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TheManxMissile
Tough choice. Hill with Flat Finish would be nice (a la 2012 Olympic route) and my preference, but the Olympics were Hilly already this year and i don't want to double up the events like that.

So voted Cobbles as it's been longest ago we had one of the major route types. UK based would be good, but a route should be uniqe and not a current or recent MG race imo.
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roturn
the_hoyle wrote:
Voted for cobbles and I think the East Midlands Circle Classic would be a great route

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The WC haven't been in the UK before Wink

It`s a PT race actually. So maybe finding another route would be good.
 
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roturn wrote:
the_hoyle wrote:
Voted for cobbles and I think the East Midlands Circle Classic would be a great route

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The WC haven't been in the UK before Wink

It`s a PT race actually. So maybe finding another route would be good.

Sorry didn't know that you can't have a certain race already!
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jt1109
My thoughts were hilly cobbled WC Richmond like from real life would be a fair choice I Feel since we had Mountain and Flat recently and not being funny but a hard cobbles race is Bewley to lose whereas Hilly Cobbles brig a few into it
 
cio93
jt1109 wrote:
a hard cobbles race is Bewley to lose whereas Hilly Cobbles brig a few into it


A hilly cobbles race is GVA's to lose. Not really a difference.
 
TheManxMissile
cio93 wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
a hard cobbles race is Bewley to lose whereas Hilly Cobbles brig a few into it


A hilly cobbles race is GVA's to lose. Not really a difference.


Solution: Mountain Cobbles
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cio93
TheManxMissile wrote:
cio93 wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
a hard cobbles race is Bewley to lose whereas Hilly Cobbles brig a few into it


A hilly cobbles race is GVA's to lose. Not really a difference.


Solution: Mountain Cobbles


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Ollfardh
How about old Ronde Van Vlaanderen route? The Bosberg isn't the hardest climb and it's still a while to the finish after that. If not that, any cobbled race that's hilly but not overly hilly and flat finish will do.
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trekbmc
I think we'd be best off having a route that is either lightly cobbled so that both sprinters and cobblists can win (or even with a hill to mix it up further) or just a light hilly route, something in the realm of the MG Paris - Tours route or MSR but with a more variating profile, don't really think we need a race that will be dominated by a specialist(s).

Voted flat in any case.

TheManxMissile wrote:
cio93 wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
a hard cobbles race is Bewley to lose whereas Hilly Cobbles brig a few into it


A hilly cobbles race is GVA's to lose. Not really a difference.


Solution: Mountain Cobbles


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tastasol
Cobbles <3
 
jph27
trekbmc wrote:
I think we'd be best off having a route that is either lightly cobbled so that both sprinters and cobblists can win (or even with a hill to mix it up further) or just a light hilly route, something in the realm of the MG Paris - Tours route or MSR but with a more variating profile, don't really think we need a race that will be dominated by a specialist(s).

Voted flat in any case.

TheManxMissile wrote:
cio93 wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
a hard cobbles race is Bewley to lose whereas Hilly Cobbles brig a few into it


A hilly cobbles race is GVA's to lose. Not really a difference.


Solution: Mountain Cobbles


I have been waiting for this day. Pfft Grin

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If that's the route then I offer to report the RR, B RR and U23 RR right here right now. That's the kind of insanity I like Pfft
 
fjhoekie
Voted for flat. Would like a WC in which wind can play a huge role.
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Riis123
Dirt roads, Strade Bianche or Tro Bro Leon-style!
 
Roman
fjhoekie wrote:
Voted for flat. Would like a WC in which wind can play a huge role.

Worked somehow questionably during this year's Conti Champs. Not sure if it is a great route for a big race.

Voted for cobbles. Make Bewley Fail Again in World Champs.

A decent course could be this hilly/cobble variant around Zakopane: https://legruppett...15#p506315

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SotD
I voted for hills. It shouldn't necessarily be a very hard hilly stage, but imo it gives the most versatile rides and the most unpredictable winnerchances, where as a flat stage would have 3-4 heavy favorites, and the cobbles would have 1 or 2. But I'm fine with whatever is chosen, as I really doubt I have a contender in any case Smile
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jandal7
As someone with no likely entrants I voted for cobbles, seen suggestions for a Richmond like course and mountain cobbles which both sound cool, a real open course without being insane (medium mountain flat finish gravel + cobbles Pfft) might be nice.
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I voted hill. I just think it gives an air of unpredictability, and there's a bigger group in with a chance of winning.
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