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Expansion Pack: Stat Discussion
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-03-2013 17:52
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Lets wait and see what Andy does around the Dauphine and TDF. If he doesn't show or goes bad, drop him.
But we do all know what he can achieve, and that he only goes well in the TDF (and LBL). Until then hewon't be putting in the effort so its unfair to judge.
Dean and Russel's SP stats need -1/-2
Ed Clancy either needs an SP -2/-3 or a heavy drop in STA (-5 onwards). He is track sprinter only, and the results he can get in game are out of his ability.
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| fickman |
Posted on 12-03-2013 17:55
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Can someone upload the last DB file please. Edited mine by mistake. Is the next stats update after Pais Vasco or after Giro coming out? |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 12-03-2013 17:57
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Alakagom wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
Gustav Larssons stats seem a bit wierd... he shouldn't have higher Prologue then TT since he always does better on the longer ones... and his Cobbles stats at 73?!?!?! that seems way too high... his stats overall seems a bit off... someone should take a look at it
31st at PR, 41st at Ronde. You neber going to get that with stats of cobble lower than 73 from the main group as he did (ie. not in mid-way trough the race break)
Long TT's 2012 - 16th Olympics ITT, 19th Worlds ITT, 21st stage Giro, 6th
Shorts TT's 2012 - 1st stage Paris Nice - 1st. 1st stage Giro - 4th.
From those results it doesn't seem like that at all. Of course he was much better in past than he is now, but I mostly go by results from 2012 and the results show he was better this year in shorter than longer time trials.
I guess you are right, but overall hes never been good in Prologues... they are usually technical which doesnt suit him... todays TT would have suited him though... but u might be right... maybe hes just changed with age =P |
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 12-03-2013 17:59
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Alakagom wrote:
gotlandrules wrote:
Gustav Larssons stats seem a bit wierd... he shouldn't have higher Prologue then TT since he always does better on the longer ones... and his Cobbles stats at 73?!?!?! that seems way too high... his stats overall seems a bit off... someone should take a look at it
31st at PR, 41st at Ronde. You neber going to get that with stats of cobble lower than 73 from the main group as he did (ie. not in mid-way trough the race break)
Long TT's 2012 - 16th Olympics ITT, 19th Worlds ITT, 21st stage Giro, 6th
Shorts TT's 2012 - 1st stage Paris Nice - 1st. 1st stage Giro - 4th.
From those results it doesn't seem like that at all. Of course he was much better in past than he is now, but I mostly go by results from 2012 and the results show he was better this year in shorter than longer time trials.
Keep in mind that his Paris-Nice prologue victory was mainly because of other guys having bad luck with rain. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 12-03-2013 19:48
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fickman wrote:
Can someone upload the last DB file please. Edited mine by mistake. Is the next stats update after Pais Vasco or after Giro coming out?
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_676316
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| fickman |
Posted on 12-03-2013 19:56
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Juan Antonio Flecha might need his stats to be lowered 1-2 points. He is 35 and is not in sky anymore so I dont think hes gonna have better results or similar results than last year.
2012 at sky:
3º 10/02/2012 GC Tour of Qatar
3º 25/02/2012 GC Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
4º 08/02/2012 Stage 4 Tour of Qatar
2013 at Vacansoleil:
20º 07/02/2013 Stage 5 Tour of Qatar
39º 08/02/2013 GC Tour of Qatar
89º 23/02/2013 GC Omloop Het Nieuwsblad |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:00
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fickman wrote:
Juan Antonio Flecha might need his stats to be lowered 1-2 points. He is 35 and is not in sky anymore so I dont think hes gonna have better results or similar results than last year.
2012 at sky:
3º 10/02/2012 GC Tour of Qatar
3º 25/02/2012 GC Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
4º 08/02/2012 Stage 4 Tour of Qatar
2013 at Vacansoleil:
20º 07/02/2013 Stage 5 Tour of Qatar
39º 08/02/2013 GC Tour of Qatar
89º 23/02/2013 GC Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
We can better await the cobbled classics. We don't have to wait too long for that though 
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| fickman |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:06
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Jesleyh wrote:
fickman wrote:
Juan Antonio Flecha might need his stats to be lowered 1-2 points. He is 35 and is not in sky anymore so I dont think hes gonna have better results or similar results than last year.
2012 at sky:
3º 10/02/2012 GC Tour of Qatar
3º 25/02/2012 GC Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
4º 08/02/2012 Stage 4 Tour of Qatar
2013 at Vacansoleil:
20º 07/02/2013 Stage 5 Tour of Qatar
39º 08/02/2013 GC Tour of Qatar
89º 23/02/2013 GC Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
We can better await the cobbled classics. We don't have to wait too long for that though
Yes u might be right but dont forget Omloop Het Nieuwsblad is a cobbled race. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:17
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You can't make stats changes on what you expect!
He can quite easily still come out and win all 4, we just don't know.
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| fickman |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:28
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Its not what I expect, its what he has shown this season thats why I posted his results so far, and until now he has shown his stats are to high 4 the results he is getting. But he might probe me wrong and like u said come out and win all 4. We will see in 2 weeks.
Edited by fickman on 12-03-2013 20:33
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:32
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fickman wrote:
Thats why I posted his results so far. And until now he has shown his stats are to high 4 the results he is getting.
But it aren't races that he's aiming for, so that's not fair.
And I don't believe that 83th place on Omloop was because of a lack of skills.
He was probably ill or crashed, I don't remember...
If he finishes outside of the Top 10 on the cobbled classics, then you have rights to complain about his stats. Just not now
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:33
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I don't see why using Tour of Qatar results to prove Flecha's ''declining''. The race had no wind whatsoever like last year and was a sprinter's race. As to Omloop, many big favoruites didn't feature at all He finished in the main pack, but he had no need to sprint for higher places. Flecha is peaking for Paris Robuaix and esnetially it's that race that will decide his most important stats.
Edited by Alakagom on 12-03-2013 20:33
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| fickman |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:50
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Guys ur completely right. I dont know why I completely forgot about Paris Robuaix  Alakagom when is the next stat update approximately going to be released? |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 12-03-2013 20:54
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fickman wrote:
Guys ur completely right. I dont know why I completely forgot about Paris Robuaix Alakagom when is the next stat update approximately going to be released?
It's not that your not right, Flecha will not get much better as you say, but well it's better to wait for his stats till his big goal.
I want to finish PCT division plus encompass new season first 4 months stats possibly, so I would hope for update after Ardennes around 20th April, or a closer one before the big cobbled classics, we'll see how it all goes.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 13-03-2013 08:23
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@Tom Dumoulin
I felt like I had to mention that he got 11th in the Tirreno TT yesterday too
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| Raskolnikov |
Posted on 13-03-2013 12:49
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Alakagom wrote:
I want to finish PCT division plus encompass new season first 4 months stats possibly, so I would hope for update after Ardennes around 20th April, or a closer one before the big cobbled classics, we'll see how it all goes.
For the next update, I think you should delete some riders that are retired, like Carlstrom, Bertagnolli, Corioni, A.Efimkin, De Maria, Girardi or Hammond, or even deceased, like Burry Stander.
Maybe you could also add some talented youngsters, like Mohoric, Lecuisinier or Villella. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 16-03-2013 15:53
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Grega Bole's stats are probably a bit too low. Upping his sprint and hill by one or two would make sense imo.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 16-03-2013 16:27
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I'd say the current stats are pretty accurate, considering that apart from two top 5 spots in Paris-Nice, he did nothing all 2012
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| dbutterfield7694 |
Posted on 16-03-2013 16:37
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add in more continental teams, would love to play with Synergy-Baku! or add in some more sponsors to play around with |
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 17-03-2013 17:03
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What are Ciolek's realistic stats after that?  Maybe a HI, STA upgrade?
Edited by fernando97 on 17-03-2013 17:04
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