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World Championships 2017 Discussion
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 19-06-2018 02:35
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Weird stuff to say the least!
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| SotD |
Posted on 19-06-2018 08:31
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Bronze for Antonijevic, that is very nice 
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| tastasol |
Posted on 19-06-2018 08:36
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Bummer to miss out on the medals... Just a bit too hilly I guess. Good ride by SKA.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 08:54
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Nice for Kennett to get a mention and not a bad result!
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT]  Xero Racing
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| Booker |
Posted on 19-06-2018 08:59
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Silvio continuing his domination of his age group - he’s going to be a monster isn’t he?
On the TTT side, quite happy to see Hacecky do well for the Czechs
Thanks for all the effort on the reporting side guys, particularly Aquarius
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 19-06-2018 09:23
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Per 
Still killing it!!
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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 09:31
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YES
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 09:38
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so close for Per  congrats to you though, Herklotz for double WC U23?
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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-06-2018 14:26
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Croatia14 wrote:
so close for Per congrats to you though, Herklotz for double WC U23?
I'd expect Mohoric to get back at him in the road race. But thanks for now!
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 20-06-2018 10:13
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Can we have a replay without Aquarius as reporter? I thought he could repress his clear anti-Jams urges if he wasn't racing for Xero but apparently he can't.
Not an unexpected result, congrats to Herklotz on a storming ride! Shame for Mohoric Also for Kapsa and Per (and Jams ofc) who could have done something.
Awesome from Veyhe to finish in the first main group 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] Xero Racing
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 20-06-2018 10:27
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How does Veyhe even make these performances? It's amazing! 
Kinda crash marred though, Kaspa must've had a -5 day, while Pedersen and Kanepejs went down for us. They would've of done heaps, but still a shame and terrible to see Per and Novardianto down too.
Also, Padun as our loan-in got 15th, so after a whole season doing nothing, now he has a big race and one-ups our hero Veyhe  Good luck with him fjhoekie.
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I seriously feel like Herklotz and Kudus have been winning U23 races for ages though, I mean only 3 of the top 10 were level 2 (Mamykin, Lopez & Mckenna) and 3 of the first 16 were level 1 (Eiking one more level 2) (Oomen, Padun & Veyhe). Herklotz, Mohoric and Kudus are fighting at the top level already, can we finally make this a thing for level 1s and 2s and get some excitement rather than the same domination?
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 20-06-2018 10:41
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For those interested, best level 1/2's:
Spoiler | 1 | Matvey Mamykin | Russia | +1'37 | | 2 | Miguel Angel Lopez | America | s.t. | | 3 | Sean Mckenna | Great Britain | s.t. | | 4 | Odd Christian Eiking | Norway | s.t. | | 5 | Sam Oomen | Netherlands | s.t. | | 6 | Mark Padun | Europe | s.t. | | 7 | Torkil Veyhe | Europe | s.t. | | 8 | Xhuliano Kamberaj | Europe | +3'05 | | 9 | Anthony Turgis | France | s.t. | | 10 | Samuel Ssabagwanya | Africa | s.t. |
Best Level 1s only:
Spoiler | 1 | Sam Oomen | Netherlands | +1'37 | | 2 | Mark Padun | Europe | s.t. | | 3 | Torkil Veyhe | Europe | s.t. | | 4 | Miha Poljanec | Slovenia | +3'05 | | 5 | Michal Schlegel | Europe | s.t. | | 6 | Robert Power | Australia | s.t. | | 7 | Enric Mas | Spain | s.t. | | 8 | Caio Godoy | America | s.t. | | 9 | Mathias Krigbaum | Denmark | +4'40 | | 10 | Joosten Vaidem | Europe | s.t. |
Gives an interesting view of the riders of the future.
Edited by trekbmc on 20-06-2018 10:50
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 20-06-2018 10:41
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Next year U23 races should be better, the riders that started out too young will be all gone by then. Happy with a 6th for Moscon and a 12th for Oomen, only Gaviria disappointed a bit.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 20-06-2018 10:50
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Ollfardh wrote:
Next year U23 races should be better, the riders that started out too young will be all gone by then. Happy with a 6th for Moscon and a 12th for Oomen, only Gaviria disappointed a bit.
A lot of them will be gone which is good, but Kemboi will still be round with 77sp/78 acc and Ranaweera, Oomen and Padun will all have 75/76 Mo, where only a few level 3 riders can beat them (and Padun will be back level 4 in 2019). It's not huge, but still blocks out developing talents from a little share of the limelight.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 20-06-2018 11:24
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One last time, sorry guys
What incredible footsteps to follow in, and what a way to end his unmaxed time in. Surely Herklotz didn't feel the pressure he'll be under from next year on yet, and expectations rose even further now.
I'm certainly looking forward to the future and will gladly leave this level of racing to the more unpolished riders from now on. I hope all your favorite talents will still get their chance to shine!
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 20-06-2018 11:28
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Ewan 5th on a hilly course, to go with his 3rd on the cobbles course. Just makes me more excited to see how he goes now max'd out
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 20-06-2018 11:40
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trekbmc wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Next year U23 races should be better, the riders that started out too young will be all gone by then. Happy with a 6th for Moscon and a 12th for Oomen, only Gaviria disappointed a bit.
A lot of them will be gone which is good, but Kemboi will still be round with 77sp/78 acc and Ranaweera, Oomen and Padun will all have 75/76 Mo, where only a few level 3 riders can beat them (and Padun will be back level 4 in 2019). It's not huge, but still blocks out developing talents from a little share of the limelight.
But are lvl 3's really a problem? Oomen for example will only have 1 year left, so he should get a chance to shine. Gaviria didn't have that chance because he always had to face riders like Zabel and Ewan.
I think we're going to a better situation next year where lvl 1 riders will have their first appearance at age 22 and a chance to shine at age 23, then move on. This year were the last flukes imo.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 20-06-2018 12:18
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Good result for Padun here Will be fun to see him compete for the Avenir and maybe U23 WC wins the coming 2 seasons, and he indeed will be level 4 in 2019. Likely one of very few riders to reach that level in the U23s from now on.
Shame Zouzou crashed...
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| SotD |
Posted on 20-06-2018 13:37
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Congrats to Herklotz and cio here. Herklotz might not win a Grand Tour this upcoming season, but he will podium one for sure, and next season and 8-9 seasons to go, he will win atleast 1 pr. season (depending on how the RD system will work).
Maybe in the future we shouldn't allow level 4 riders to ride, but then again. Who will be eligeble agewise and still be level 4 in, let's say, 2 years time?
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 20-06-2018 13:44
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[url=https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=50407&pid=1294837#post_1294837]SotD wrote:[/u] Maybe in the future we shouldn't allow level 4 riders to ride, but then again. Who will be eligeble agewise and still be level 4 in, let's say, 2 years time?
Well Padun for one at the least.
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