baseballlover312 wrote:
No one uses the French DB when there is a Daily DB.
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Erm, guys... I guess the "Everything else" forum is specifically for not discussing Pro Cycling Manager
But anyway, concerning stories, yes, I don't see much point in creating a story that you want to last for months now given the last patch hasn't been released.
Concerning the comparisons about PCMDaily DB and French DB, they are very different DBs, it's hard to compare. The PCMDaily DB I guess everybody knows already. The French DB, afaik, is among the category of the "Giant DBs", like FCM, Excya, PPDB, etc, meaning that its biggest difference is having many teams and races. The obvious advantage of that is having more teams and races, a problem with that is that the game will be less estable, not-so realistic fields in the lower races, since they add teams and races from all over the world but can't specialize in all of them, and also the teams/races ratio can be a bit messed up, specially with PCM13's new fitness system which require more races, it's worth to keep an eye on it.
That said, there are things that people disagree in all DBs. In the French one, for example, from what I've seen I disagree with the need to remember which DB you're playing with everywhere, like the kms-to-go banners. Besides, you get a variant for the Giro dell'Appennino, I'm shocked But of course there are many great things. What doesn't sound much smart to me is saying that you won't use a DB "just because"
Meh, I just hope I'm not sounding like Jesleyh talking about Dutch riders in the stat discussion thread
No, I kind of agree luigi. The bonuses of the French db is that you can play as a tiny team from France (or another country but Im sure being a French db they aren't going to forget the small French teams), with maybe one alright rider and the rest are only going to fight in the breakaway. With that team, you race in a lot of really small local french races, and getting results can feel awesome when they do finally happen. To me, the Giant Db's are meant to be played as the smaller teams.
Generally, the larger db's fall behind where the PCM,daily db excels which is having consistent and high quality graphics, and having great and very accurate stats for ~95% of the riders
And "no one uses the French DB when there is the Daily Db", well maybe, but I think the French DB for PCM 10 was the most popular db around, several people even used it here, because it was quite good as far as I remember.
The worst part about all of this, is I think the newer PCM's introduced a team-limit so there can only be about 140 teams instead of near 200 like there was in the older Giant DB's.
Edited by valverde321 on 26-07-2013 02:46
"The bonuses of the French db is that you can play as a tiny team from France"
Really, you guys must have a LOT of time to play PCM, playing as a small team usually means like 5 year career to WT level...
I usually just stick with WT and Custom teams
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Yes, that's exactly where the Giant DBs are the nicest to play with, the smaller teams in the small races And indeed the team-limits sucks (thought I'm not so sure it's still there in PCM13? And hadn't someone found a way to get past it?). I think it's 154 teams btw. The XXX Database of Bikex and Michiel was looking really promising on this. And being a Giant DB based on PCMDaily's DB, I think it'd end all discussions Too bad it wasn't released for PCM12... I hope they still give it a go for 13.
valverde321 wrote:
And "no one uses the French DB when there is the Daily Db", well maybe, but I think the French DB for PCM 10 was the most popular db around, several people even used it here, because it was quite good as far as I remember.
Well, I also disagreed with that sentence That said, I think you're mistaking it with something else. PCMDaily's PCM10 DB is the most downloaded thing on PCMDaily, and thus I'd guess the most downloaded DB ever for PCM (46.912 downloads!) Edited by lluuiiggii on 26-07-2013 04:38
valverde321 wrote:
And "no one uses the French DB when there is the Daily Db", well maybe, but I think the French DB for PCM 10 was the most popular db around, several people even used it here, because it was quite good as far as I remember.
Well, I disagreed with that sentence That said, I think you're mistaking it with something else. PCMDaily's PCM10 DB is the most downloaded thing on PCMDaily, and thus I'd guess the most downloaded DB ever for PCM (46.912 downloads!)
I meant on all Fan-Sites. Im pretty sure it was downloaded quite a bit on official forums. The official thread over there had over 300 pages I think. The biggest downfall of that db was the fact it just re-used stages with similar profiles.
Plus its hard to compare without it being in the downloads section, but if it wasn't the most popular it was a very close second imo (in terms of popularity, not necessarily quality), although it had more bugs as well and the Daily db is what started my Veilleux story so of course its great too Edited by valverde321 on 26-07-2013 04:08
valverde321 wrote:
I meant on all Fan-Sites. Im pretty sure it was downloaded quite a bit on official forums. The official thread over there had over 300 pages I think. The biggest downfall of that db was the fact it just re-used stages with similar profiles.
Plus its hard to compare without it being in the downloads section, but if it wasn't the most popular it was a very close second imo (in terms of popularity, not necessarily quality), although it had more bugs as well and the Daily db is what started my Veilleux story so of course its great too
I meant all fan-sites too But I'm not sure about it, that's why I said it's a guess. I believe that PCMDaily certainly is the biggest fan-site nowadays, but I don't know how it was in the past (i.e. if the fan sites years ago would be big enough for a DB to be possibly downloaded 47k times).
For comparisons purposes:
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the 2013 French DB's (who started this discussion anyway ) thread on Cya forum has 119 pages (besides being posted on nearly all communities I know). The download seems to be done exclusively by internet (5 parts), hosted on uptobox. However a few of them are hosted on partage-facile, which shows the download numbers: 629 and 258 downloads on partage-facile for parts 1+3 of the variants pack, 389 downloads on partage-facile for part 1 of the DB itself.
I don't think there's a way to know the number of downloads of the parts hosted on uptobox, but I'd be surprised if it'd be 50 times higher (in which case the total of downloads would be ~20.000 for 119 pages on Cya forum). Therefore, despite having 300+ pages on Cya forum, I don't think the one you've mentioned would have reached 47k downloads
Btw, are you talking about the Full Cycling Manager? Checking now they have 345 pages on Cya's forum. I downloaded that one for PCM10, it was cool indeed. Too bad PCM10 sucked
ps.: but if it is the FCM you're talking about, just for the lulz: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=15246
valverde321 wrote:
I meant on all Fan-Sites. Im pretty sure it was downloaded quite a bit on official forums. The official thread over there had over 300 pages I think. The biggest downfall of that db was the fact it just re-used stages with similar profiles.
Plus its hard to compare without it being in the downloads section, but if it wasn't the most popular it was a very close second imo (in terms of popularity, not necessarily quality), although it had more bugs as well and the Daily db is what started my Veilleux story so of course its great too
I meant all fan-sites too But I'm not sure about it, that's why I said it's a guess. I believe that PCMDaily certainly is the biggest fan-site nowadays, but I don't know how it was in the past (i.e. if the fan sites years ago would be big enough for a DB to be possibly downloaded 47k times).
For comparisons purposes:
Spoiler
the 2013 French DB's (who started this discussion anyway ) thread on Cya forum has 119 pages (besides being posted on nearly all communities I know). The download seems to be done exclusively by internet (5 parts), hosted on uptobox. However a few of them are hosted on partage-facile, which shows the download numbers: 629 and 258 downloads on partage-facile for parts 1+3 of the variants pack, 389 downloads on partage-facile for part 1 of the DB itself.
I don't think there's a way to know the number of downloads of the parts hosted on uptobox, but I'd be surprised if it'd be 50 times higher (in which case the total of downloads would be ~20.000 for 119 pages on Cya forum). Therefore, despite having 300+ pages on Cya forum, I don't think the one you've mentioned would have reached 47k downloads
Btw, are you talking about the Full Cycling Manager? Checking now they have 345 pages on Cya's forum. I downloaded that one for PCM10, it was cool indeed. Too bad PCM10 sucked
ps.: but if it is the FCM you're talking about, just for the lulz: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=15246
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But atleast its an option, which proves its not as sucky as Baseball made it out to be
(I think its a different group of French members anyway)
Edited by valverde321 on 26-07-2013 04:55
valverde321 wrote:
But atleast its an option, which proves its not as sucky as Baseball made it out to be
(I think its a different group of French members anyway)
Exactly, that was my point in my first post: saying Daily's better without even knowing the other DB? A bit close-minded imo
Now, seriously, this is going way off-topic even for the off-topic forum
And indeed, it's a different group of French members. The ones from the Full Cycling Manager are not nearly as arrogant Edited by lluuiiggii on 26-07-2013 07:22
lluuiiggii wrote:
Now, seriously, this is going way off-topic even for the off-topic forum
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baseballlover312 wrote:
No one uses the French DB when there is a Daily DB.
Well, it bridges some time until the PCMdaily DB is there
And I just like Lower League Management play, so for a LLM career, I'll use (an edited) French Community DB, for good-CT teams/PCT/WT careers, I'll use PCMdaily's.
Yes, so probably going to make 2 installs, if I ever figure out how
jseadog1 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
No one uses the French DB when there is a Daily DB.
Spoiler
Not JesleyH!
We all know how smart he is
Not sure how to take that Edited by Jesleyh on 26-07-2013 08:13
valverde321 wrote:
But atleast its an option, which proves its not as sucky as Baseball made it out to be
(I think its a different group of French members anyway)
Exactly, that was my point in my first post: saying Daily's better without even knowing the other DB? A bit close-minded imo
Now, seriously, this is going way off-topic even for the off-topic forum
And indeed, it's a different group of French members. The ones from the Full Cycling Manager are not nearly as arrogant
Wasnt the FCM DB the one where you got a fairly limited number of equipment and they expected you to pay them so they would give you the link for more? I remember the the big argument about that! And the french community DB is run & made by the likes of mede_33 nowadays, who are putting an awful lot of work into it. Heck, most, if not all of my graphics that could b found in the Daily2013 pack are included in the FCD as well. Its not that bad a DB
I have to say the French DB does look very good in my opinion - some people have spent a lot of time doing some great graphics like the sponsorkits/buildings/updated newspaper/backgrounds etc
And indeed the team-limits sucks (thought I'm not so sure it's still there in PCM13? And hadn't someone found a way to get past it?). I think it's 154 teams btw. The XXX Database of Bikex and Michiel was looking really promising on this. And being a Giant DB based on PCMDaily's DB, I think it'd end all discussions 
