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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 11-01-2018 20:21
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Marcovdw wrote:
If they continue this trend then trekbmc will be klled next unless he's the godfather or Ian is lying (and in that case we know both remaining mobsters). So I think we have to not lynch him today, and I'll break the promise I made when I lynched TMM for now
So what you are saying is that we don't lynch trek to see if he gets killed this night by mafia, because if not, he's likely the godfather or Ian and Trek are the remaining mafia members 
Without even focusing on that at this point you still have any doubt that Ian is the detective, even with a mafia attempt at killing him - how epic it would if Ian had tried to kill himself knowing that he would be saved  - you just gave mafia the perfect excuse to not kill trek this night and go for anyone else, with the reasoning of "let's hope that people believe he's the godfather because mafia didn't continue the trend of killing "confirmed" townies" which is a one-day run. But maybe i'm overthinking 
Also, a lot of time has passed since trek first suggest that the masons should reveal themselves to help Ian in his investigations, but still no one has claimed to be. At the point of Trek's first suggestion, Sammy and Croatia were already dead iirc. and with the time past since, i now have the feeling that they might have both masons, which would mean that gunsmith was still alive when Ian revealed himself as detective.
Bikex, would you like to explain me what have i done so you think that i'm suspicious?
Also, i don't think Ian should reveal whether he has a gun or not, because if he has and he says it, he might get blown up by the terrorist - if wsf was the goon - before he can actually find him and shot him
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 11-01-2018 21:09
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Aquarius97 wrote:
Marcovdw wrote:
If they continue this trend then trekbmc will be klled next unless he's the godfather or Ian is lying (and in that case we know both remaining mobsters). So I think we have to not lynch him today, and I'll break the promise I made when I lynched TMM for now
So what you are saying is that we don't lynch trek to see if he gets killed this night by mafia, because if not, he's likely the godfather or Ian and Trek are the remaining mafia members
Without even focusing on that at this point you still have any doubt that Ian is the detective, even with a mafia attempt at killing him - how epic it would if Ian had tried to kill himself knowing that he would be saved - you just gave mafia the perfect excuse to not kill trek this night and go for anyone else, with the reasoning of "let's hope that people believe he's the godfather because mafia didn't continue the trend of killing "confirmed" townies" which is a one-day run. But maybe i'm overthinking
As much as I want to believe Ian is the actual detective the only possible prove he can give is sending us a picture of his PM from Jandal, which is against the rules. We have to take into account the possibility, however small it may be, that we're being fooled.
You can believe Ian is the detective and act according to his investigations, fine by me and it can bring you the win. But be wary of tunnel vision.
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| ryant |
Posted on 11-01-2018 21:50
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I dont think mafia are able to attack themselves so your point doesnt make sense (or at least they shouldn't be able to). Therefore, Ian is 100% confirmed to be town.
I'd like the marco and jseadog invested next but other than that I'm not sure. I think wsf may have been the terrorist because I think mafia would have blown him up by now tbh...
I think we need confirmation of whether Ian has a gun just to see if the gunsmith is alive still and it would be beneficial if any masons would come forward still
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 11-01-2018 21:55
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I think, as a townie without role, the best I can do is look critical at the information and think outside the box 
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| Raziz |
Posted on 11-01-2018 22:49
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So, I finally have a chance of being online when it's not in the night (game-wise). What must be said however is how wrong especially you can be in such a game. You could have just completely figured something out and when you speak out loud about your feelings, they come back to bite you (which I experienced last game) and seemingly all the knowledge that had been retained had quickly fallen into the wayside.
If you think about the two sides (mafia and town). The town have 7 (in this game) effectively powerless roles only to gather numbers for the town. So for someone like me (must say my availability kind of aided this), why would I risk it all when I am a powerless (townie). There is effectively no reason to say any outlandish statements and establish an initial point of view, which there is a big chance of being wrong and a point-of-view which can additionally be critiqued by every single other member (15 others) sending you into endless suspicion which is simply incorrect in some and sometimes even most cases. There simply is no reason to expose yourself in such a manner and earn a quick lynching or as I stated early, suspicion by both sides of the spectrum which can lead to a lynching later on.
If you think about the odds in this game, there are 13 town and 3 mafia, which would mean the mafia are already originally in trouble so I am eager to watch whether the mafia can survive in such a hostile environment on the sidelines. Inevitably of course, such a ratio does not provide any favours and with 1 mafia kill already confirmed, the town are well on their way to glory.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 11-01-2018 22:54
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Time to shake it up. I do agree with what Bikex is saying so far. But then again, i've been wrong before..
Lynch Aquarius for now.
Im open to be convinced otherwise.
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 01:05
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Why? Neither Bikex has given any reason for his vote, and neither have you in a very clear bandwagon move which i don't really understand. If it wasn't because you are the CC, anyone would thought that you don't care about who dies as long someone dies, which is something that a mafia member would love
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 12:17
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Well, if Bikex can't lynch him without giving any reason, i guess it's fair that i do the same with him
Lynch Bikex
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| Bikex |
Posted on 12-01-2018 14:21
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Aquarius97 wrote:
Well, if Bikex can't lynch him without giving any reason, i guess it's fair that i do the same with him
Lynch Bikex
You know it’s not true that I have no reason, just read my previous posts. Mostly it’s just shooting in the dark and you are one of only a few that acted at least a little bit suspicious. I wanted to think a little bit more about it still today but unfortunately I’m only home late, I hope there is still a little bit of the mafia day left then. If that’s the case I’ll try to get a better view of the situation.
Unfortunately in this edition the discussion is very uneventful so far, the mafia did well to shoot vivid participants in sammy and Croatia of the last game early. |
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Posted on 12-01-2018 14:49
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Bikex wrote:
I hope there is still a little bit of the mafia day left then.
I'll use that as reminder that the day ends in 6 hours
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 15:04
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So we have come to lynching random people again. I guess maybe at this point it is better than just lynching nobody and letting mafia pick off the town 1 by 1. I will still not be voting yet.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 12-01-2018 15:13
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At this point in time it is indeed best to not lynch, have the mafia kill someone and act on Ian's investigations. If this goes wrong we have plenty of time to correct it.
So, unless someone will act in a manner related to the mafia in the next hours, I will lynch nobody.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 15:18
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I'll leave my vote up there for now, we need to do something at this point i feel.
Ian, who did you investigate and what was the results?
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 12-01-2018 15:19
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 15:29
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Bikex wrote:
Aquarius97 wrote:
Well, if Bikex can't lynch him without giving any reason, i guess it's fair that i do the same with him
Lynch Bikex
You know it’s not true that I have no reason, just read my previous posts. Mostly it’s just shooting in the dark and you are one of only a few that acted at least a little bit suspicious. I wanted to think a little bit more about it still today but unfortunately I’m only home late, I hope there is still a little bit of the mafia day left then. If that’s the case I’ll try to get a better view of the situation.
Unfortunately in this edition the discussion is very uneventful so far, the mafia did well to shoot vivid participants in sammy and Croatia of the last game early.
So my suspicious behaviour is to have suggested to investigate Hillis when Ian asked for suggestions? Is not like i have voted to lynch him or have kept doubting of him since then.
Maybe i should remind you that i was the first to vote to lynch weirdskyfan, not a thing that a mafia member would do. A mafia would wait some time to vote for him, in order to give him time to somehow convince the town to not lynch him or to bomb the detective if he was the terrorist - at least it's what i would do in that situation.
Also, i have to agree with Jseadog and Marco that no lynching could be good for us at the moment, as the chances of lynching a mafia member are slim. Ian is safe with the doctor alive, and unless mafia somehow know that the doctor is dead, he won't be attacked again. I'm not saying that we should do that for too many days, but maybe until Ian finds the other mafia member that it's not the godfather.
And while my lynching vote to Bikex can be considered an "attack of rage" it can explained by the fact that we know that Bikex can't be the doctor, because he hadn't been online for 6 days, including the day that Ian was saved by the doctor, and if he is the gunsmith, he should have already given a gun to Ian, so at worst his role is fullfilled or he doesn't have one, and at best, although i don't really believe that he's mafia, we have a mafia member.
And finally, i'm changing my vote to Lynch Nobody, basically because in case of a tie i would be saved This doesn't count for a tie between a person and no lynch, in this case there is no lynch.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 16:43
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I'm extremely confused as to what the case is against Aquarius. We have people saying they have reasons and not giving them. Aquarius lynching WSF first is pretty good evidence he's town to me, or at least better evidence than none at all.
I'm extremely suspicious of Bikex now. He's usually a very analytical player. This time we see him generally more inactive, and then coming in making blind accusations with no reasoning that makes logical sense. Plus the whole mafia lurking in the shadows thing is rarely true, but would be a great play for a mafia member who wants us to pick off townies.
Lynch Bikex
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| ryant |
Posted on 12-01-2018 17:51
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I agree with bbl, there was no reason for the lynch vote on aquarius and I'm surprised by hillis' support of the lynch, it doesnt make sense and town certainly doesn't need to lynch atm...
I'm going to lynch no one for now but I want marco, jseadog and Bikex investigated por favor
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 12-01-2018 18:36
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Lynch Bikex
Just want us to not wait around, like last game. Theirfor. I'll change my vote, based on the defence by Aquarius and BBL's argument.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 12-01-2018 19:36
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hillis91 wrote:
Lynch Bikex
Just want us to not wait around, like last game. Theirfor. I'll change my vote, based on the defence by Aquarius and BBL's argument.
Seriously?
Unfortunately, I won’t have the time to make a bigger post like I hoped before the day ends, I’ll also just change my vote to lynch noone
Ian, I guess you are taking no requests on whom to investigate but I’m very intrigued to get to know Selwinks alignment. We haven’t heard anything so far from him this game! |
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 12-01-2018 19:53
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On a phone so I'll have to delay my reasons.until I get home but just to make sure my vote is counted before he deadline.
[b]Lynch Nobody/b]
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