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Giro d'Italia 2016

Introduction & History


Welcome to the annual and 10th MG edition of Giro d'Italia and welcome to the very first Grand Tour of the year! We have 21 exciting stages going from Dubrovnik, Croatia to finally end up in Roma, Italy! It's a long journey from our strong field, which have a historical place to behold off with several key riders having their last one shot at supremacy. Damiano Cunego has won 6 Giro d'Italia editions and the new generation is ready to take over!

pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/met.png Aleksandr Pluchkin is here to take his first GT this of this season, as he showed that no one can compare to the "Aleksandr the Great"! He does not have an opposition counting the name Schleck, so his favorite title is hard to get around. A man that can do this is pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gzl.png Angel Madrazo! The spaniard have reached the podium 3 times before and now he intends to take his first step on the biggest spot! pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pnd.png Vincenzo Nibali has never won this race either, but as his fellow Italians he has never been lucky in this race, now on his old days he might be in for a surprise.

(Short notice : The first 6 stages will be with default leader jerseys, after that it will be the correct leader jerseys)

Former Winners


Winner2nd3rdYear
Andy SchleckAngel MadrazoDamiano Cunego2015
Damiano CunegoAleksandr PluchkinAngel Madrazo2014
Taylor PhinneyAngel MadrazoSimon Spilak2013
Riccardo RiccoEmanuele SellaDomenico Pozzovivo2012
Damiano CunegoEmanuele SellaVincenzo Nibali2011
Damiano CunegoFranco PelizottiRiccardo Ricco2010
Damiano CunegoEmanuele SellaFranco Pelizotti2009
Damiano CunegoRiccardo RiccoAndy Schleck2008
Damiano CunegoDanilo di LucaGilberto Simoni2007


The Route


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We start off in Dubrovnik, Croatia for a flat stage around the beautiful small societies and old towns going along the Adriatic Sea and ending up in Spalato for a Mass sprint naming the first stage winner of the race. Before leaving Croatia we go from Sibernik to the city of Lun and now we venture into Italy. In the city of Trieste the boards will be shaken with a Team Time Trial featuring a hilly course, which will stur the race into a new dimension. This dimension starts with a day on both sides of the Etna Vulcano for the first battle between our GC favorites

The sprinters will be back for the Venezia stage before the punchers will be given a chance to take a stage win in Abano Terme. Lastly the first 3rd of the race will end up with a tame Mountain stage going from Montecchio to Sirmione featuring the fearsome Monte Baldo climb.

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The 8th stage is one of the hardest in the race with an accumulated 65 km's climbed. Going over the Forcola de Livigno climb to the Passo de Gavia climb, that will have the highest point of this tour. The next stage is a weird one with a Hilly/Moutain climb, but a flat finish that will give the surviving sprinters the edge in Bergamo. Before heading into mountains again the pack will have a short day with hills before action takes of on Pione di Moscogno, the longest climb on the whole MG Calendar. Before we hit an classic stage going from Falzes to Cortina d'Amprezzo with Passo Duran (the highest percentage climb). Ending on the descent of Passo Giau. Rounding off we have 2 stages for the surviving sprinters with bigger cities like Parma and ending up in Pisa.

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Now finally we start off in Firenze for a legendary stage going to the mini-put state of San Marino, The path there lies in between 5 classic climbs and from here on the recovery stages really begin to matter. A resting day in Montesilvano will collide with 2 big Mountain stages. The first going from Pescara to the mighty climb of Blockhaus, this is the King stage of this race getting past the Blockhaus climb that is 28 km's long, the winner here will most certainly be the winner of the Giro. Finally we reach the classic climb of Valico di Monte Cristo on a day with 69 km's of climbing. The winner will have to fight for his turf in the hills to come going to Montefiascone and a hilly TT in Porto Santo Stefano to finally go from the Vatican throughout and around Roma. Here the winner will be cheered for and 21 rough days are over!

The Startlist


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GC Favorites


RiderMOHITTRC
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gzl.png Madrazo85767780
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/met.png Pluchkin85757978
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/rbh.png Alarcon84736674
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ssc.png Denifl84767271
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bud.png Henao Montoya82717179
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ora.png Cattaneo82707980
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pnd.png Nibali82777777
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/akm.png Guldhammer81777175
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bpv.png Wellens81757280
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ssc.png Kiserlovski80757275
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Nerz80727372
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vsa.png Suaza80657376
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/aeg.png Olivier79756980
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/akm.png Galta79727177
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bec.png König79757476
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/btc.png Solis79605978


Sprinters


RiderFLSPACRiderFLSPAC
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/evo.png Van Stayen768377pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bpv.png Keukeleire728079
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bec.png Howard768279pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ozc.png Saber737977
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tif.png Tzortzakis748279pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/rbc.png Boivin747980
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gre.png Guarnieri768281pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bud.png Havik737976
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/akm.png Enger738178pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png Pelucchi747977
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Demare738081pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gre.png Rowe787980
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/rbh.png Holloway788082pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mus.png Silvestre767879
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bud.png Van Poppel728078pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tif.png Haller707877
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/aeg.png Groenewegen718079pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vsa.png Merino Criado737880
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kdd.png Meyer728076pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/rbh.png Brus717878


Stage Hunters


RiderHIACSTRiderTTHIRS
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vsa.png Gastauer827678pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/met.png Zmorka826575
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/aeg.png De Bie817577pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ozc.png Ford815564
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/rbc.png Pichon797674pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kdd.png Sergent806974
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/evo.png Van Stayen787776pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Sütterlin806577
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kdd.png Kwiatkowski787574pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/btc.png Martin797275
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gre.png Juul-Jensen787976pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mus.png Fraile797276
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/akm.png Dyrnes787773pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tsa.png Malori796873
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bud.png Boswell787475pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/met.png Hepburn796677
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bpv.png Serry786971pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tsa.png Vorobev796571
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Demare778175pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ozc.png Olman795768
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pum.png Felline777875pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gzl.png Koren787475
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/bec.png Vakoc777273pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/ozc.png Li786168
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/aeg.png Villella778072pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/pnd.png Dees777276
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/gzl.png Kangert777276pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/vsa.png Porte777175


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roturn
Nice preview!

Looking forward to the first GT of the year.

Having Olivier in his first GT leadership is already great after developing him from 1.0.
Having him in the top10-15 range, makes it even better. My actual goal for him was a top20 for him, so anything better is already nice and actually looks highly possible.

Groenewegen a top10 sprinter might get a top5 or podium here and there even though others are still quite a bit stronger. Then again Groenewegen will be back next year maxed. Wink

De Bie and Villella high up in the stage hunter list. Let`s hope, they show something. Need stage results as GC points won`t be too high without top5 chances.

So my team might not be the best, but still has great opporunities for all terrains.

Stage Win & Top20 & Top3 U25 please.
 
Shonak
Wow great startlist, I expect a thriller!
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cio93
I absolutely love the sprinting field here.

Van Stayen showing up was predictable and he will be nearly impossible to beat, but I am somewhat confident Demare can turn out to be the second best sprinter in this race with lots of flat stages having decent elevation gains.
The mountains will also tire out the other sprinters significantly more, and many of the hilly stages look to potentially end in sprints as well. No Grosu or guys like Trofimov/Hagen here is great in that regard.
Sadly I couldn't give him a leadout train with AToC clashing and RD stuff, but I hope Felline will always be around him. Hopefully he'll surf trains well and stays in the slipstreams to strike in the last 250 metres.

For the GC, Nerz and/or Bongiorno can scratch the Top 10 with consistent riding.
I'd like to either see both end in the Top 15, or one of them going for GC and one of them going for the KoM jersey (likely Bongiorno, 79mo used to be a good stat for that).

Bevin and especially Sütterlin come here for TTT support, Heider and Mager should be nice domestiques for both the mountains and hills.


As for predictions outside of my own team, all I care about is that we score better than at least 5 teams who are below us at the moment Grin
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viking90
We got some interest here with 3 loanies riding here, one for Aegon and two for RBC.

But as always GTs are great to follow anyway.
 
Croatia14
seing this as my first GT I follow I feel like this startlist is not too strong...could well be van Stayen's Giro, but I expect many wins for the breakaways...GC wise it should be Pluchkin --> Madrazo --> Alcorcon --> Wellens --> Henao as my pick
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ember
Great preview, sgdanny!

This is going to be huge, very excited to see the Giro start. Pluchkin must be the obvious favourite, and with such a route, he could get the leader's jersey in the first week and keep it all the way to Rome. Happy to see that a top 10 looks doable for Guldhammer, that's our main goal and also a sponsor goal here.

Would be nice to see Holst Enger mix it in the sprints as well, a couple of top 5s should be doable seeing the sprinters lining up.

Really hoping Alarcon can prove himself again after a rather disappointing 2015, after a great 2014. Could be much needed for Smowz as well, seeing how Red Bull have struggled until now this season.

Oh, and there isn't much reason for knockout to fear GTs and a huge ranking drop, I suspect, seeing Van Stayen is here. He should be the favourite in most sprints and claim loads of points.

Speaking of sprinters, it's obviously a key race for Grieg-Eftel as well. They definitely need Guarnieri/breakaway luck to score well here, seeing this is probably their strongest GT line up. If not, the tiny, tiny hope of survival will disappear quickly.
 
Bikex
Finally my first MG GT. Regarding the GC I sacrificed a focus race to be somewhat competitive here. On paper Denifl is one of the 4 best climbers here and with Kiserlovski he has a great support. The climbers field doesn't really look much stronger than in PCT in which Denifl also sucks, so hopes are he doesn't suck much more in PCT and a Top10 could be doable.
Thanks for the great preview sgdanny. Wink
 
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matt17br
Pluchkin is the obvious favorite, just see no way anyone can even think about dethroning him especially as Madrazo is as inconsistent as it gets and the rest really isn't GT winning material - though Alarcon somehow managed that in a crappy field Vuelta very recently, which is also the case if we don't count the first 2.

Smooth move to take MVS here as he is the top favorite to take on lots of hillier and sprint stages along with Guarnieri - who I honestly rate higher for most flat stages because of his leadout as well. Generally, it was smart to take second/third tier sprinters here instead of those fast men packed WT races such as Qatar and Afrique. Or Le Tour.

Gastauer and De Bie here are pretty huge gambles that could pay off depending on the AI. I count at least 5 stages they have a shot at winning, but it could really turn out to be a huge mistake if PCM decides suddenly not to like them.

Nice to see Zmorka here ready to wreck the TT field - although that one TT really seems to be something for someone with > high 60s in their hilly stat, such as...his teammate Pluchkin, who also definitely can get over mountains very well which is required to win 3rd week TTs nowadays in PCM. Metinvest are gonna have a huge GT, just sneak Grosu in the squad and it would have been the perfect rankings destroyer team, though everyone has a limited amount of race days you know Smile

Thanks for the in-depth preview Danny!
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tastasol
Yeah, without a doubt our strongest GT line up. The TdF one is absolutely shocking Pfft So we certainly need a great race if we want any chance of staying up. Hopefully we can build on our great Paris-Roubaix performance.

Guarnieri should certainly be one of the top 3 sprinters here, and he also have great support. Stage win goal should be doable. A bit worried about how he will cope with the semi-hilly stuff on stage 1,2 and 9, but would be a very dissapointing race if he can't win a stage here.

While I'm not going anywhere near the GC battle, it will be a good one to follow. Important race for both Gazelle and Metinvest in that way. Just hoping that we won't see any of the big guys crashing out.

Thanks for the great preview, sgdanny.
 
alexkr00
Time to start scoring some points
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wackojackohighcliffe
Sent Nibali here for the nationality bonus before finding out it got taken away years ago. Still, he was good value in Tirenno and hopefully will be here. Fairly strong team behind him and should back him up nicely in the TTT. Pluchkin Madrazo will be fun a hope on a traditionally crazy Giro route. Good luck to all, hope for no crashes and thanks for the preview danny!
 
sammyt93
"mini-put state"? We have a CT team, just a shame there's no Sammarinese riders present to race the stage in our homeland.

With no race clashes our whole team can come out to watch the finish and cheer on Hofer, our only loaned out rider present.

I look forward to following the race and seeing which one of the 2 85's comes out on top of the GC or if someone can spring a surprise and take the first GT of the MG season.
 
Eden95
Easily between the top 3 GC guys, and further it's Pluchkin's to lose considering Madrazo is as inconsistent as he is. Interesting to see both De Bie and Gasteur turn up, hopefully it's not in vain.
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Marcovdw
Can Pluchkin complete the triple? I think so!

Also looking forward to Chad Haga's debut in a GC. Not expecting much but he can always surprise me.
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Croatia14
forgot that I have loaned out riders here, let's cheer for Bazhkou and Potocki for some breakaway success and of course also their teams for a great first GT of the season. Go RBC & Aker!
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OlegTinkov
What a crapy preview: all of my riders should be mentioned in the Stage Hunters category Pfft
 
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Avin Wargunnson
So here it comes, the first race of truth of the year for Metinvest. Smile

Thanks for the very nice preview, i just miss the TTT lineups strenght, but i guess we are one of the strongest teams there with maybe Tinkoff? The plan is to gain the jersey after the TTT or the first mountain stage with double Etna ride, this way Pluchkin could use the power of pink to his advantage and bring it all the way to Rome hopefully.

Madrazo will benefit from Gazelle lucky charm for sure, he can be dangerous, like Alarcon or Denifl. Other guys should ne no match in mountains. Most important is to stay away from crashes, please. Smile

Good luck to all, looking forward to the start of the race!
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tsmoha
Just hoping for a TTT win and breakaways.

Great preview!
 
Roman
Goals:
- Top 15 overall (König)
- Some podium sprint finishes and hopefully a stage win (Howard)
- At least an attempt for a stage win (Vakoc)
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