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Tour de France, Stage 17 - Thursday, Bagnères-de-Luchon - Peyragudes
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:26
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| 1 | Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling | 74:15:32 | | | 2 | Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling | 0:02:05 | | | 3 | Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale | 0:02:23 | | | 4 | Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Lotto Belisol Team | 0:05:46 | | | 5 | Haimar Zubeldia Agirre (Spa) RadioShack-Nissan | 0:07:13 | | | 6 | Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team | 0:07:55 | | | 7 | Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team | 0:08:06 | | | 8 | Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Astana Pro Team | 0:09:09 | | | 9 | Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar | 0:10:10 | | | 10 | Thibaut Pinot (Fra) FDJ-Big Mat | 0:11:43 | | | 11 | Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale | 0:11:47 | | | 12 | Andreas Klöden (Ger) RadioShack-Nissan | 0:13:14 | | | 13 | Christopher Horner (USA) RadioShack-Nissan | 0:13:39 | | | 14 | Chris Anker Sörensen (Den) Team Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank | 0:14:43 | | | 15 | Denis Menchov (Rus) Katusha Team | 0:21:06 | | | 16 | Maxime Monfort (Bel) RadioShack-Nissan | 0:21:26 | | | 17 | Egoi Martinez De Esteban (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi | 0:21:41 | | | 18 | Rui Alberto Faria Da Costa (Por) Movistar Team | 0:22:47 | | | 19 | Eduard Vorganov (Rus) Katusha Team | 0:24:20 | | | 20 | Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Movistar Team | 0:33:57 | |
Last chance for the climbers. Last stage that should cause havoc on road and in GC. But will Wiggins and Froome crack is the question ? Will others put pressure early on to crack Sky ?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:28
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Roche will get top 10 as Pinot doesn't like the Pyrenees. An to answer your questions:
1. No
2. They have for the last week. it doesn't work.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:29
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I'd like to see Froome attack on the Port de Bales alongside Nibali and someone like Rolland or Roche. Doubt it will happen, but it would be great to watch and surely make Wiggins have to earn the overall. Evans will lose even more time regardless, Voeckler may move up another few places. Oh, and Pinot to take white away from TJVG and hopefully hold it until Paris. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:34
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jph27 wrote:
I'd like to see Froome attack on the Port de Bales alongside Nibali and someone like Rolland or Roche. Doubt it will happen, but it would be great to watch and surely make Wiggins have to earn the overall. Evans will lose even more time regardless, Voeckler may move up another few places. Oh, and Pinot to take white away from TJVG and hopefully hold it until Paris.
Good luck with that. He has to gain 4 minutes and then not lose any time in the time trial.
Pinot and Van Garderen is gonna be some showdown in their primes.  Besides, Pinot is how old? He will take white and yellow at some point.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:37
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Pinot was 22 in May, Van Garderen is 24 in August. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:37
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baseballlover312 wrote:
jph27 wrote:
I'd like to see Froome attack on the Port de Bales alongside Nibali and someone like Rolland or Roche. Doubt it will happen, but it would be great to watch and surely make Wiggins have to earn the overall. Evans will lose even more time regardless, Voeckler may move up another few places. Oh, and Pinot to take white away from TJVG and hopefully hold it until Paris.
Good luck with that. He has to gain 4 minutes and then not lose any time in the time trial.
Pinot and Van Garderen is gonna be some showdown in their primes. Besides, Pinot is how old? He will take white and yellow at some point.
His 21. 4 years still for him to conquer white and apart from Tejay, there's not much competition out there to fight with him. |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:37
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Well... last chance. There's only one way - Lotto and Liquigas (like together) should create mountain train with Vanendert, Basso and maybe Szmyd to isolate Wiggins and Froome. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:39
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jph27 wrote:
Pinot was 22 in May, Van Garderen is 24 in August.
Exactly, he'll have 2 years of taking white, maybe three. But i cna't see it happening after today.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:41
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Looks like another easy day for Bradley  |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:41
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Tyler Farrar v Jimmy Engoulvent show down for the Lanterne Rouge...
Looking at the results, Menchov confirmed my belief he's on big decline. I am disappointed in the Omega Pharma Quickstep GC riders ( Velits, Levi, De Weert ). I didn't expect great show from them, but none of them produced anything really in terms of GC. And that seeing their team was focused on good GC here, quite a shame.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:42
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They will fight for it again next year. And I think Pinot will take it then as it looks like he has a huge margin for progression.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:42
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Alakagom wrote:
Tyler Farrar v Jimmy Engoulvent show down for the Lanterne Rouge...
Looking at the results, Menchov confirmed my belief he's on big decline. I am disappointed in the Omega Pharma Quickstep GC riders ( Velits, Levi, De Weert ). I didn't expect great show from them, but none of them produced anything really in terms of GC. And that seeing their team was focused on good GC here, quite a shame.
Crap, the best sprinter in the peleton after yesterday could get eliminated! 
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:43
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Alakagom wrote:
Tyler Farrar v Jimmy Engoulvent show down for the Lanterne Rouge...
Looking at the results, Menchov confirmed my belief he's on big decline. I am disappointed in the Omega Pharma Quickstep GC riders ( Velits, Levi, De Weert ). I didn't expect great show from them, but none of them produced anything really in terms of GC. And that seeing their team was focused on good GC here, quite a shame.
De Weert worked for Leipheimer.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:43
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Spilak23 wrote:
They will fight for it again next year. And I think Pinot will take it then as it looks like he has a huge margin for progression.
Especially as Brailsford expressed kind words about Pinot He's on contract with FDJ after this year, but I believe Sky will want to sign Pinot to join their team in 2013 for the season of 2014.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:45
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Alakagom wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
They will fight for it again next year. And I think Pinot will take it then as it looks like he has a huge margin for progression.
Especially as Brailsford expressed kind words about Pinot He's on contract with FDJ after this year, but I believe Sky will want to sign Pinot to join their team in 2013 for the season of 2014.
Screw them. If Pinot, the most promising young rider goes to that powerhouse, I' will never watch cycling again. And why would he go?
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:47
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Well, a good thing is that Nibali isn't battling only against Wiggins. If it was like that, he'd perhaps give up after today, and not try anything tomorrow, but he's also in a battle against Froome for 2nd place. In the end I'd just like that Froome rebelled against Sky and went for his own TdF chances. Up the pace in Port de Bales, attack with some kms left together with Nibali, Van Den Broeck and one or other and completely crack Wiggins, who loses 9 minutes and eventually finishes 6th after regaining time in the TT. Wouldn't it be a much bigger 'propaganda' to tell the story of the British boy who had bilharzia parasites, but overcame it and won the hardest sportive event on the world?
And that's when I usually wake up
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:48
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
They will fight for it again next year. And I think Pinot will take it then as it looks like he has a huge margin for progression.
Especially as Brailsford expressed kind words about Pinot He's on contract with FDJ after this year, but I believe Sky will want to sign Pinot to join their team in 2013 for the season of 2014.
Screw them. If Pinot, the most promising young rider goes to that powerhouse, I' will never watch cycling again. And why would he go?
Money. Better training methods ( not trying to relate this to drugs ) Money. Best Team in the cycling right now - offers many opportunities. Good progress for him. Money again
I feel many French riders wasted their talent by staying with their French teams for too long. International teams add a lot and team like Sky, or any other should progress Pinot's talents even further.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:51
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Alakagom wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
They will fight for it again next year. And I think Pinot will take it then as it looks like he has a huge margin for progression.
Especially as Brailsford expressed kind words about Pinot He's on contract with FDJ after this year, but I believe Sky will want to sign Pinot to join their team in 2013 for the season of 2014.
Screw them. If Pinot, the most promising young rider goes to that powerhouse, I' will never watch cycling again. And why would he go?
Money. Better training methods ( not trying to relate this to drugs ) Money. Best Team in the cycling right now - offers many opportunities. Good progress for him. Money again
I feel many French riders wasted their talent by staying with their French teams. International teams add a lot and team like Sky, or any other should progress Pinot's talents even further.
But woth FDJ everything would be him. Sky already have Wiggins, Froome, Uran, Henao, Porte, rogers, Lofkvist... He wouldn't get any oppurtunities.
Edit to your edit: He won't develope his talents in a mountain train. 
Edited by baseballlover312 on 18-07-2012 16:54
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Posted on 18-07-2012 16:53
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If Nibali is to win the yellow jersey he needs to beat Wiggins in this stage by at least 6 minutes. Not going to happen |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2012 16:54
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
They will fight for it again next year. And I think Pinot will take it then as it looks like he has a huge margin for progression.
Especially as Brailsford expressed kind words about Pinot He's on contract with FDJ after this year, but I believe Sky will want to sign Pinot to join their team in 2013 for the season of 2014.
Screw them. If Pinot, the most promising young rider goes to that powerhouse, I' will never watch cycling again. And why would he go?
Money. Better training methods ( not trying to relate this to drugs ) Money. Best Team in the cycling right now - offers many opportunities. Good progress for him. Money again
I feel many French riders wasted their talent by staying with their French teams. International teams add a lot and team like Sky, or any other should progress Pinot's talents even further.
But woth FDJ everything would be him. Sky already have Wiggins, Froome, Uran, Henao, Porte, rogers, Lofkvist... He wouldn't get any oppurtunities.
You're forgetting this trasnfer will happen in 2013 and he will ( maybe ) ride for Sky in 2014 only.
Rogers might retire or leave the team this year even. Lofkvist will definitely leave the team this year. Wiggins might retire next year, got his Tour win and now will try and let Froome win it. Uran also is possibility to leave the team this year. I.e a lot will change by 2014.
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