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| seancoll |
Posted on 14-10-2024 22:23
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Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
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On race design, do we have the option to be more aggressive on the time gap settings for Stage 2? That sort of thing could split the result gaps up more, without altering the stage design itself.
Will look at that, my memory of testing this in PCM 22 in the past is it doesn't do much. But maybe if we went to like 2 or 3 seconds.
We committed to getting rid of them in the sprint GC races. But we don't have the time to go every races to find and fix them all. But now everyone is in tune with this if people note them this season and want to shoot me a PM I will at least have a good list to work from. Looks like a full review of Tasmania would make sense.
As the reporter, the issue on both stages 1 and 2 from a grouping perspective appeared to be some quick descents and uphill sections placed together. In particular, on stage 1, that long descent off the plateau that included a minor uphill split the field in a way that felt unexpected. Personally this feels consistent with how races functioned last year where the downhills actually created the splits in most cases.
On stage 2, the issue did not appear to be gaps at the finish line. The field had much less than 100 riders together at 10km to go, but the penultimate kicker around 3km to go was 17% and leaders were already on the front. The pace in the field basically shut down and allowed the group behind to catch up. Because the pace was low and how PCM sometimes functions, this group just never really broke apart in the final 3km. If the pace on the climb had been consistent and strong, I think that the grouping would've been much less. Not sure how stage set-up needs to be to ensure that, but the two-tiered finishing climb appeared to be the cause of the regrouping - much moreso than any impact of grouping settings at the finish line.
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 15-10-2024 02:35
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32nd is an underwhelming TT from Conci but 12th overall from him is a respectable result given the relative range of riders across the top of the GC. 22nd in the GC from Castrillo is also solid depth scoring which we're going to need a lot of this season!
Thank you for the reports and congrats to the winners 
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Posted on 21-12-2024 14:35
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 15-10-2024 02:44
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Not much to say for us. Sulvaran in 33rd, other than that it was a lost race. Sad SKjelmose couldn't crack the top 50.
Thanks for the reports!
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 15-10-2024 06:51
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Fabianski wrote:
Congrats to Sykkel, that Abdul Halil guy keeps surprising me with his not-so-great statline ^^
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The slander!
Great to see my man Abdul Halil start the season off with a bang, always punches above his weight That Malaysian RR jersey looks good too. Hope he can keep it up
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| redordead |
Posted on 15-10-2024 07:09
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redordead wrote:
Hard to see this race getting much worse, but I guess there is one stage left.
Thanks for the reports.
Well it got worse 
Are we sure we didn't change the RDC for this season? That's the most random TT result I've seen. I'm glad to see our friends at Oxxo were able to take advantage and get their season off on a great note.
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| knockout |
Posted on 15-10-2024 07:23
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I had realistic hopes to get sth like a 17th gc place after the hilly stage so only getting a 21st feels like a small underperformance. Generally, not the best race for us but i couldnt expect a huge result anyway. Glad i didnt send Lopez here with how the race unfolded.
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 15-10-2024 08:04
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Although it's obviously nice to see Zmorka open our account and show he could even still win something in PT on the right day, sadly this race was a bit of a disaster for us.
Stage-wise I can't blame Higuita and Zmorka doing decent, but GC-wise with Eastman in 66th and all the others far behind, when having several leaders here and all with their own skills, is just a big fail. Hope the luck turns around somewhere, luckily for us there are still many races to see that happen
Thank you for the nice reports as always, sean!
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 15-10-2024 09:19
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The PCM Gods really favored us this time. Van der Kooij very close to getting that first victory in a PT race in the first stage, but we'll take second as well.
Not sure if a harder second stage would have favored us or not, but with Kron and Remco just outside the top 10, I'd say yes.
Remco finishing 10th here and not even maxed out is a great result for him and the team. The stage one shenanigans did play into his favor, but some gaps had to be made somewhere if the second stage proved so easy
Thanks for the reports and happy new season!
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| tastasol |
Posted on 15-10-2024 15:55
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Had anticipated that Wirtgen would be tough, but to also be beaten by Mullen and Zmorka was somewhat surprising, but slim margins. That said, we have to be very happy with a 3rd place in GC. Congrats to our former loanee, Ryan Mullen, and Polar on the GC win!
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| tastasol |
Posted on 15-10-2024 15:55
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Had anticipated that Wirtgen would be tough, but to also be beaten by Mullen and Zmorka was somewhat surprising, but slim margins. That said, we have to be very happy with a 3rd place in GC. Congrats to our former loanee, Ryan Mullen, and Polar on the GC win!
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 16-10-2024 06:13
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Pretty rough finish to Stage 1 after it basically looked like things went perfectly, then failed, then were going perfectly again until Manninen just collapsed? He should really be winning with podium at a minimum, slightly worrying heading into a far stronger field in Qatar.
Areruya delivering in Stage 2 with even less of an excuse than Manninen not to. Nice start to season to get a stage, day in yellow and the green jersey tie. Shame there weren't gaps especially as Ganna was very attentive.
Then the worst result on Stage 3. Really really poor, random TT bullshit. Not as bad as Bennett last year in MTTs but another reminder to me why I've never bothered with a TT leader. At least he wasn't absolutely nowhere, and at least my exorbitant fee for not much wasn't as much as the Wirtgen training fee also receiving not much bang for buck in the opening race
Thanks for the reports seancoll and congrats Polar on a surprising opening GC win, awesome start to the year for you 
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-10-2024 06:32
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Well, that was unexpected.
People told me, TTs are less random, so I started to get some TT riders this year.
This was not what I expected. The unselective hill stage was already not ideal for Phinney as 2-3 riders could have beaten him this way. Being beaten by basically the whole top10 then was even worse.
Vansevenant also dropped a lot, which was expected though.
Salas on the other hand was fantastic stage wise. If only he wasn`t one of the dropped riders on stages 1&2, which to be fair though also was expected seeing him being a pan flat TT rider only.
In the end the schedule I did for Phinney is now a bit better I think as the other races shouldn`t trust his TT only too much.
Thanks for the reports and congrats to those being successful. Mullen and Zmorka nailed it there on the final day, later though unfortunately not GC wise.
And surprise to see Wirtgen being beaten as well. While Phinney was quite shocking, Wirtgen was another level still. |
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| Roman |
Posted on 18-10-2024 15:41
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What a poor race at least somehow saved by Hirt's attack for KOM points and Nommela's somehow decent sprint. Losing time on a flat stage with almost all of my riders is as poor as it gets...
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 20-10-2024 20:56
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Definitely not the start of the season I had hoped for with Samolenkov 14th at Stage 1 and Skujins 9th at Stage 2. Stage 3 the ITT was better, let's hope that continues during the Tour of Qatar.
Thanks for the opening reports seancoll! If you experience blacked out graphics/text you should lower you graphical setting just a little bit.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 17-11-2024 12:26
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That was quite an upset to start the season with Mullen beating the bigger favorites. Congrats Polar! Mano about where it was to be expected. Only missing 2 seconds for the podium is unfortunate, though.
It was definitely the right decision not to bring Gidich this time around.
Thanks for the reports, sean! |
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