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Tour de l'Avenir 2021 - Sign Up
ryant
CyclistIDLast nameFirst name2021 TeamAvenir Team
491HayterEthancycleYorkshire???
6463RomoJaviercycleYorkshire???
636ChristakosDimitrioscycleYorkshireFestina - OAKA
7704TurnerBencycleYorkshire???


Sorry for the late entry
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jaxika
CyclistIDLast nameFirst name2021 TeamAvenir Team
5022Van den BergLarsMOL???

Sorry, i forgot the stagiare Sad
 
AbhishekLFC
ryant wrote:
CyclistIDLast nameFirst name2021 TeamAvenir Team
491HayterEthancycleYorkshire???
6463RomoJaviercycleYorkshire???
7704TurnerBencycleYorkshire???


jaxika wrote:
CyclistIDLast nameFirst name2021 TeamAvenir Team
5022Van den BergLarsMOL???


If anyone wants to claim any of these riders for their teams, please respond here in the next couple of days. Will get the race ready for reporting after that.

If no one claims them, I'll put them into a fitting team with open slots.
 
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SotD
It's a little bit weird that we always get nominations PAST the deadline when a thread have been open for nominations for a month!

It undermines the relevance of making deadlines imo - and we have been over it several times.

I have no interest in keeping riders away from development, so obviously they should be included when it's still possible but we really need to look at how we interpret deadlines...
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SportingNonsense
If not too late, I'd like to nominate my riders for the XP, to make sure they develop. They can miss the race if its full of riders, else likely fill a team on their own. Hope to catch up soon.
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OlegTinkov
Totally agree with SotD everything after the deadline should be ignored!
 
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Luis Leon Sanchez
SotD wrote:
It's a little bit weird that we always get nominations PAST the deadline when a thread have been open for nominations for a month!

It undermines the relevance of making deadlines imo - and we have been over it several times.

I have no interest in keeping riders away from development, so obviously they should be included when it's still possible but we really need to look at how we interpret deadlines...


I could not agree more with this!

Everyone had a month which is more than enough time to have been on the site once and nominated your riders if you actually wanted them to develop.

Obviously I too am someone who pains to see talents be wasted but it's ridiculous to accept any nominations after a set deadline when that deadline gave plenty of time.
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
I am a little more forgiving on this issue. I think to miss out on development would be pretty demotivating and not sure we should do that to long-time committed players, particularly over 1 day.
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quadsas
Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
I am a little more forgiving on this issue. I think to miss out on development would be pretty demotivating and not sure we should do that to long-time committed players, particularly over 1 day.


100% disagree. If you miss the deadline the very least thing that should happen is you don't get to do whatever you've missed. I would also slap onadditional penalties. You had a full month to do a simple copy paste,
deez
 
baseballlover312
Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
I am a little more forgiving on this issue. I think to miss out on development would be pretty demotivating and not sure we should do that to long-time committed players, particularly over 1 day.


I have to agree with this pragmatically. In the past, I'd be 100% in favor of strict deadlines and punishments. quadsas is 100% right- it's only fair that people who miss a very lenient deadline don't get the benefit of what they missed. That said, I'm not sure we have the luxury of doing that to our current user base. Having all your talents lose a year of development over this may be fair, but it's also exactly what might cause a user to disband, and that's a greater evil in our current situation.
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Croatia14
We are playing this game for fun. Nobody gets hurt if we just let them participate. No process has been stopped/delayed by them being late, so what. Don't understand why there is even a discussion

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Would be different if somebody misses a deadline that is explicitly necessary to continue with the game. Then indeed moving on without those players/with some sort of punishment makes sense. Here it's just not the case and unnecessary trouble.

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jandal7
Agree with Croatia completely. If it’s delaying a task somebody has to do to continue with the game then it’s a problem, otherwise it’s fine isn’t it? I know I wouldn’t take any pleasure out of seeing other people miss out on Avenir or development, and I’m not sure what other reason people would have to want people to miss out in this instance?
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baseballlover312
jandal7 wrote:
Agree with Croatia completely. If it’s delaying a task somebody has to do to continue with the game then it’s a problem, otherwise it’s fine isn’t it? I know I wouldn’t take any pleasure out of seeing other people miss out on Avenir or development, and I’m not sure what other reason people would have to want people to miss out in this instance?


I mean, presumably the deadline existed for a reason and extending it delays something - that something being the DB creation and reporting required to have l'Avenir raced in its normal time frame. Obviously that's not nearly as important as if we were waiting on renewals or something like that, but it's something.

That said, the main concern is respecting the time of the user organizing it. If Abhi's okay with it, there's not a problem.
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quadsas
I also have no problem with people missing deadlines EVERY TIME AND EVERY YEAR. get a grip
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AbhishekLFC
I don't have any problem either way. Off course, it would be beneficial to have stuff come in before deadlines (especially such a long one), but I haven't made the startlist yet, so it's not a hassle.

And I can't really take the final decision on this either. I have proposed two possible solutions:
1) Allow everyone to participate
2) Allow those who are late to get XP for riders but not race

Checking on that.
 
Jakstar22
AbhishekLFC wrote:
I don't have any problem either way. Off course, it would be beneficial to have stuff come in before deadlines (especially such a long one), but I haven't made the startlist yet, so it's not a hassle.

And I can't really take the final decision on this either. I have proposed two possible solutions:
1) Allow everyone to participate
2) Allow those who are late to get XP for riders but not race

Checking on that.


Let them participate completely! Let everyone in. Who cares. We should exactly be just shutting people out cause they were late and if they are getting the XP they may as well race right?
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
Allow everyone to participate. However, would like to see some sense of urgency from managers moving forward
 
hillis91
Since it's not a game driving deadline, im ok with everybody getting to race and get the XP.
However, i would like to see hard deadlines for game driving tasks be with consequences in the future.
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jph27
If we're not going to enforce the deadline for Avenir, then why do we not just give every eligible rider the 20xp? About 90% of the eligible riders were nominated, so it's hardly a huge difference. Not saying it would be my preferred approach, but if we're not bothered about hard deadlines then we equally shouldn't tie the XP to it.

For what it's worth, my overall view is that while it's not a game breaking delay to accept late entries, it creates a precedent for missing more important deadlines. Obviously the important thing is to not remove the fun aspect, but it increases the stress and frustration of those organising the game when deadlines are missed - and each time it's accepted, it makes it harder to enforce when needed.

However, it's Sunday morning and I've not yet had a coffee - I may just be grouchy Pfft
 
AbhishekLFC
The decision is made that all riders nominated till now will be allowed in. Here is the final starlist:
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328SweenyHarryIsostar - SpecializedBralirwa - IsoMinions
410PeakBarnabasIsostar - SpecializedBralirwa - IsoMinions
681DebesayYacobBralirwa - StevensBralirwa - IsoMinions
1053RutschJonasEurosport x GCNBralirwa - IsoMinions
1879VansevenantMauriMinionsBralirwa - IsoMinions
1890BjergMikkelMinionsBralirwa - IsoMinions
2022MulubrhanHenokBralirwa - StevensBralirwa - IsoMinions
6369TesfatsionNatnaelBralirwa - StevensBralirwa - IsoMinions
213ReyndersJensCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
323StocekMatusCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
526SuterJoelCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
2035JuntunenAntti-JussiCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
3349ForssellHugoCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
5566VaboTore AndreCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
5616CannisterGoldwijnnCarlsberg - Danske BankCarlsberg - Danske Bank
5768EekhoffNilsGrieg-MaerskCarlsberg - Danske Bank
859PogacarTadejCedevitaCedevita
5102SiricIvanCedevitaCedevita
5218StojnicVeljkoCedevitaCedevita
6203RuizRobinson StevenLos Pollos HermanosCedevita
6375BuitragoSantiagoCedevitaCedevita
6498PrimozicJakaTrans Looney TunesCedevita
7735OsorioAlejandroLos Pollos HermanosCedevita
8051ArdilaAndres CamiloCedevitaCedevita
290PlutoMartinsCrabbe-CC ChevignyCrabbe-CC Chevigny
586ScottCameronBNZ-Superhero RacingCrabbe-CC Chevigny
1171BerwickSebastianCrabbe-CC ChevignyCrabbe-CC Chevigny
1489Van TrichtStanCrabbe-CC ChevignyCrabbe-CC Chevigny
5022Van den BergLarsMOLCrabbe-CC Chevigny
5860DriznersJarradCrabbe-CC ChevignyCrabbe-CC Chevigny
8028BlouweLouisCrabbe-CC ChevignyCrabbe-CC Chevigny
136WirtgenLucEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
630GallFelixEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
685BoileauAlanEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
1238MuntonByronEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
3303MatsangosAlexandrosEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
5893ValterAttilaEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
7591RiesMichelEA VesuvioEA Vesuvio
625Van MoerBrentJura - FiatGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
638KnottenIver JohanLos Pollos HermanosGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
686ArensmanThymenGjensidige Pro Cycling TeamGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
2004UlysbayevDinmukhammedGjensidige Pro Cycling TeamGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
5009Van PouckeAaronJura - FiatGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
5828ZingleAxelGjensidige Pro Cycling TeamGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
6038RojusAdomaitisMcCormick Pro CyclingGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
6362FinklerLeonardo HenriqueGjensidige Pro Cycling TeamGjensidige Pro Cycling Team
491HayterEthancycleYorkshireHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
1314TikhoninEvgeniiHelloFreshHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
1654WallsMatthewHelloFreshHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
2040RubioEiner AugustoTeam Tinkoff - La DatchaHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
2061NovikovSavvaHelloFreshHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
6271O'BrienKellandTeam Tinkoff - La DatchaHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
6463RomoJaviercycleYorkshireHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
7704TurnerBencycleYorkshireHelloTinkoff - DatchaFresh
365Nur HasanSandyIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
1044JousseaumeAlanIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
5300PhodingamSakchaiIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
5953HuysLaurensIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
6141WibisonoRachmad NokaIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
6183YudhaMuhammadIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
6325VerschaeveViktorIndosat OoredooIndosat Ooredoo
20SchmidMauroJura - FiatTeam Switzerland
304OtrubaJakubSauber Petronas RacingTeam Switzerland
406BisseggerStefanJura - FiatTeam Switzerland
825VoisardYannisSauber Petronas RacingTeam Switzerland
1249BrunelAlexysJura - FiatTeam Switzerland
5853TessonJasonJura - FiatTeam Switzerland
6214HirschiMarcSauber Petronas RacingTeam Switzerland
6302FroidevauxRobinJura - FiatTeam Switzerland
186Van GilsMaximLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
796PapanovMartinTeam Popo4Ever p/b NemiroffLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
1861AleottiGiovanniLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
3208WeemaesSashaLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
5282CemazarNikTeam UBSLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
5653PotockiViktorLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
5695PronskiyVadimTeam Popo4Ever p/b NemiroffLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
6168CoviAlessandroLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeamLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
206CepedaJefferson AlexanderLos Pollos HermanosLos Pollos Hermanos
556HocevarKristjanCedevitaLos Pollos Hermanos
655OcampoVictor AlejandroPolestar cyclingLos Pollos Hermanos
842CorkeryDillonGlanbia Foods Cycling ProjectLos Pollos Hermanos
1051BeltranGuillermo AndresLos Pollos HermanosLos Pollos Hermanos
5000MurphyJack BernardGlanbia Foods Cycling ProjectLos Pollos Hermanos
6397JulajujAlexLos Pollos HermanosLos Pollos Hermanos
7921DuyvesteynKeesPolestar cyclingLos Pollos Hermanos
525GarrisonIanMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
1034DavisColeMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
1335McNultyBrandonMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
5167HechtGageMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
5200SchunkConorMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
5620WrightFredMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
5793ChaiyasombatThanakhanMcCormick Pro CyclingMcCormick Pro Cycling
6290HerregodtsRuneKing PowerMcCormick Pro Cycling
28SzarkaGergelyBWT Hyundai N CyclingPhilips - Force India
1338LeemreizeGijsPhilips - Force IndiaPhilips - Force India
1353MeeusJordiHuski ChocolatePhilips - Force India
1639ChampoussinClementHuski ChocolatePhilips - Force India
2069GarciaJhojanPhilips - Force IndiaPhilips - Force India
5417SagadinLukaPhilips - Force IndiaPhilips - Force India
5488PhilipsenJasperBWT Hyundai N CyclingPhilips - Force India
7162SchellingIdePhilips - Force IndiaPhilips - Force India
635NorbertAndrewPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
785LaganeChristopherPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
5618AlexanderNathanPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
5934RedyDylanPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
6045DekkerDavidPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
6209MayerAlexandrePodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
6257KellyJacobPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
6453OroscoKempPodium AmbitionPodium Ambition
1213SamHenry AlbertoAramco DPRed Bull Zalgiris
1426ThijssenGerbenAramco DPRed Bull Zalgiris
5459TediashviliGiorgiJura - FiatRed Bull Zalgiris
5505KawasakiMioriAramco DPRed Bull Zalgiris
5582JanuskeviciusMantasMcCormick Pro CyclingRed Bull Zalgiris
5959BayerTobiasRed Bull ZalgirisRed Bull Zalgiris
7024LeknessundAndreasRed Bull ZalgirisRed Bull Zalgiris
7819HestersJulesAramco DPRed Bull Zalgiris
197AndersenSanderTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
5360AndersenIdarTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
6316JohannessenAnders HallandTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
6429HjemsaeterOlavTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
7601UrianstadMartinTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
7848HvidebergJonas IversbyTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
7923LunderEirikTafjord KraftTafjord Kraft
576RodenbergFrederikTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
604HollmannJuriTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
624KronAndreasTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
1086PiraYesid AlbeiroTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
1833JohannessenTobias HallandTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
3031AzparrenXabier MikelTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
3245LazkanoOierTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
6416GrossFelixTryg - Ritter SportTryg - Ritter Sport
46Arias VillanuevaSergioVolcanica - FoxVolcanica - Fox
274Morales OrtegaJacobPodium AmbitionVolcanica - Fox
331Jimenez RetanaJohnVolcanica - FoxVolcanica - Fox
716PerezCristianPodium AmbitionVolcanica - Fox
733MendozaBryan FernandoVolcanica - FoxVolcanica - Fox
3061SamudioJoseph IvanVolcanica - FoxVolcanica - Fox
5771RiveraKevinVolcanica - FoxVolcanica - Fox
7652RojasHenry AntonioVolcanica - FoxVolcanica - Fox
95StavrakakisGeorgiosBinance CyclingVoyagin - Bird
200MatsudaShoiVoyagin - BirdVoyagin - Bird
432AlmeidaJoaoBinance CyclingVoyagin - Bird
636ChristakosDimitrioscycleYorkshireVoyagin - Bird
693BagioliAndreaVoyagin - BirdVoyagin - Bird
708LyuXianjingVoyagin - BirdVoyagin - Bird
5696KoideItsukiVoyagin - BirdVoyagin - Bird
7032AgrotisAlexandrosFestina - OAKAVoyagin - Bird
188PidcockThomasProject: AfricaXero Racing
2031StannardRobertXero RacingXero Racing
2037KipkemboiSalimXero RacingXero Racing
3246FoucheJamesXero RacingXero Racing
5674EloseguiInigoFarfetch Pro CyclingXero Racing
6231VermeerschFlorianXero RacingXero Racing
199CarrSimonEurosport x GCNZwift Pro Cycling
409VisserLouisBWT Hyundai N CyclingZwift Pro Cycling
1334StewartJakePolestar CyclingZwift Pro Cycling
3059JorgensonMatteoVolcanica - FoxZwift Pro Cycling
5088ZukowskyNickolasAssa AbloyZwift Pro Cycling


As the race is ready, I can't allow anyone else in after this point I'm afraid.
 
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