jseadog1 wrote:
When is the deadline to vote? I am stuck between lynching somebody or lynching nobody

hillis91 wrote:
"100% townie who is suspicious of everybody and needs convincing"

@jandal: Why was the name of who the doctor saved made public this time?

jandal7 wrote:

Just a change I made for this edition, will ask for feedback at the end

Bikex wrote:
I agree we should lynch someone. Due to us already having gotten rid of one mafia member we even can allow ourselfes some mislynches. Also it reduces the guys Ian has to investigate.
I'd still like the masons to reveal themselves to further reduce investigation targets and I think the gunsmith already can show himself today, as he still has the next night to give Ian a gun anyways. If all of this happens we can already plan quite well ahead with not many names that have to make up the remaining mafias. I can understand though if the gunsmith wants to stay under cover a little longer, but the masons imo should definitely show themselves already.
For now, I vote to lynch trekbmc, due to reasons already stated before and because he is the only one with a lynch vote so far. However, I'm willing to listen to what he has to say and if convinced, reserve myself the option to change my vote.



Thanks for the answer. Tbh I like it this way better, reduces confustion.

Your maths is waaaaay off.
Hillis being CC is not 11/13, but closer to 1/9. You need to remove the detective, doctor and two mafia members from the potential list, and then it's still only 1 because he's one person not 11 people.
Sammy/Croatia would sit at 2/15(ish) given we didn't know other roles at the time and other people were still alive. 2/15 becomes 1/7.5, making them more likely to be the CC than Hillis.

With the detective known, alive and protected the Mafia have to do something to keep themselves out of the spotlight and making a claim of being a CC is the best bet there.
Claiming Masons is dangerous because there's two and only one needs to be alive to ruin that move. Claiming to be the Doctor is as risky, but as the Doctor can actively influence the game you'd be busted the next day if you're lying.

I agree that at some point the masons should reveal themselves to reduce the number of players, Ian has to investigate. Maybe also the gunsmith can come forth.

Looking at the thread, I notice trekmbmc and marco posting, but not lynching wsf. Maybe we should keep an eye on them. Trek's explanation of why he didn't lynch does not make me completely
happy.

Do I understand correctly, that Ian being saved by the doctor, confirms to 100% he is a townie? Otherwise it could've been a very smart tactical move, removing a dead weight mafia guy, who doesn't log in and establishing the trust of the town. After all, the chance of investigating a mafia guy in the first night is very slim.

I don't trust Trek for not getting in on the lynch when it was fairly clear what was going to happen (Either Ian was right or Ian was going to die the next day).

baseballlover312 wrote:
You stay off the internet for most of a day and you come back to this sh*tshow.

I gotta say, after playing so well as mafia last game, I no longer can tell anymore who is telling the truth because I know how as mafia, we tricked the town. That makes this very difficult. I don't wanna be so quick to subscribe to the idea that either TMM or Trek is right in this case, and the other is mafia. It reminds me a lot of several rivalries last game - and those were exactly what we mafia wanted as the mafia.

That being said, I also have no other leads. I keep psyching myself out. If I had to pick a side here, I'd probably lean towards TMM, if only because Trek seems adamant on defending hillis, who I don't see as trustworthy. Not confirmed mafia or anything, but trek is acting as though another CC would immediately claim, which isn't the case. He's basically making evidence where there isn't necessarily any.