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| ringo182 |
Posted on 27-10-2016 14:53
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Quickstep have existed as the main/sole sponsor before. They may just step in again for next season while a new sponsor is found.
Then again with Boonen retiring what is the point of them continuing 
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| Shonak |
Posted on 27-10-2016 15:58
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Nice to see that QS puts the funds after their MG rage quit into cycling nonetheless. 
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 27-10-2016 17:17
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ringo182 wrote:
Quickstep have existed as the main/sole sponsor before. They may just step in again for next season while a new sponsor is found.
Then again with Boonen retiring what is the point of them continuing
Gaviria.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 27-10-2016 22:49
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Marc Sergeant spoke about Stig Broeckx yesterday. Last month he visited Stig and Stig managed to blink and raise his thumb on command. I'm not sure if I should be happy that there's progress or sad because that's all he could do 
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-10-2016 00:08
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Ollfardh wrote:
Marc Sergeant spoke about Stig Broeckx yesterday. Last month he visited Stig and Stig managed to blink and raise his thumb on command. I'm not sure if I should be happy that there's progress or sad because that's all he could do
I ere on the side of progress. This is a guy that was basically pronounced brain dead by many news sources and he's now showing responsiveness. Any news like this is good news from my point of view. That was last month too, so it's been a while since. There could have been more progress.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 28-10-2016 08:55
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Riis123 wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Quickstep have existed as the main/sole sponsor before. They may just step in again for next season while a new sponsor is found.
Then again with Boonen retiring what is the point of them continuing
Gaviria.
Half Belgian anyways.
Oh yeah, forgot about him.
I am willing to bet that Quickstep will become Quickstep - Something or Other just in time for next years Tour.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 28-10-2016 09:18
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It all depends what Coucke Will do. He's been very quiet on the subject lately.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 28-10-2016 10:41
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British Cycling to be quizzed by MPs (Politicians) over the TUE issue.
https://www.bbc.co...g/37796716
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| minibettini |
Posted on 28-10-2016 11:13
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ringo182 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Quickstep have existed as the main/sole sponsor before. They may just step in again for next season while a new sponsor is found.
Then again with Boonen retiring what is the point of them continuing
Gaviria.
Half Belgian anyways.
Oh yeah, forgot about him.
I am willing to bet that Quickstep will become Quickstep - Something or Other just in time for next years Tour.
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 28-10-2016 11:22
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Spilak23 wrote:
It all depends what Coucke Will do. He's been very quiet on the subject lately.
I can't help but presume that his interest has shifted more and more towards football instead of cycling. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 28-10-2016 11:40
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He also stopped sponsoring lille so don't think that's the problem. I've heard some rumours about problems with the fiscus
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 28-10-2016 12:11
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The Giro route is very bad for a 100th edition.
Ups:
Etna and Blockhaus in first 9 days are very good.
67 km of ITT.
Bormio stage being 225 km.
Downs:
No sterrato.
Oropa, Bergamo, Piancavallo, Ortisei and Asiago stages are horrible. They could have been designed so much better.I will post the alternate stages in Race Design Thread when/if I have time.
Stelvio stage could have been designed better as well.
Blockhaus stage not going to the top.
Grande partenza in Sicily could have been much better.
No hard 230-250 km hilly stage.
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 28-10-2016 12:21
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Despite signing with Bahrain-Merida, Rodriguez still might not race again... Very strange decision in my eyes if that is the case and only backs up people's claims that he was only signed for the WT points rather than having a swansong season before becoming a mentor
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| matt17br |
Posted on 28-10-2016 12:28
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Ortisei horrible? The same Ortisei in this pic?
I think we have very different conceptions of what's good and what's bad then. I don't really like these kinds of "it could have been designed so much better" posts. The organisers have a lot more to take into account instead of just finding random mountains and saying hey wouldn't it be cool. Pointing out how bad ________/ stages are is something. Complaining about how a great Alpine stage could have been much better is something else.
Grande partenza in Sicily could have been much better.
Sardinia please, grande partenza is not even a term.
Some mountain stages are too short.
Cool, let's make every single mountain stage 200+ kms and keep scenarios like Andalo or Aramon Formigal from happening.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 28-10-2016 12:36
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matt17br wrote:
Ortisei horrible? The same Ortisei in this pic?
I think we have very different conceptions of what's good and what's bad then. I don't really like these kinds of "it could have been designed so much better" posts. The organisers have a lot more to take into account instead of just finding random mountains and saying hey wouldn't it be cool. Pointing out how bad ________/ stages are is something. Complaining about how a great Alpine stage could have been much better is something else.
Grande partenza in Sicily could have been much better.
Sardinia please, grande partenza is not even a term.
Some mountain stages are too short.
Cool, let's make every single mountain stage 200+ kms and keep scenarios like Andalo or Aramon Formigal from happening.
Quote 1:I will design a stage that will finish in Ortisei with Fedaia and Sella as last climbs.I am also pissed that Fedaia is not included.You will see the possibility with the stage to make it much better.Just like the other stages
Also that Ortisei stage will only see action on final climb.
Quote 2:How did I wrote Sicily is beyond me.It is obviously Sardinia 
And thanks for saying that Grande Partenza is not a term.My Italian is non existent.
Quote 3:1 or 2 short Mountain stages are fine but 3 is just too much.And two of them are ----/.
Also the long Mountain stages are better imo because it makes the stage much harder för Thé doms to control and it becomes mano a mano.
E.g. Gardeccia 2011
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| matt17br |
Posted on 28-10-2016 12:48
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I will design a stage that will finish in Ortisei with Fedaia and Sella as last climbs.I am also pissed that Fedaia is not included.You will see the possibility with the stage to make it much better.Just like the other stages
I mean, good for you. But that's the best designed mountain stage in quite a few years, adding the Passo Fedaia would have meant increasing kilometers or at least eliminating one of the mountains before then.
That stage is perfect for early attacks and modifying it in any way would spoil it: you can attack anywhere, be it in one of the first 3 passes, in the false flat sections to Canazei or Cemadoi, in the steep descent to Ponte Gardena or anywhere else. In a stage like that you can attack whenever you want just like what happened at Vuelta, where it was even before the first climbs of the day.
And thanks for saying that Grande Partenza is not a term.My Italian is non existent.
I guess it's not your fault, Google returns tons of grande partenza results from sources who want to mimic the Tour's saying for the grand depart. But it's just so awkward sounding 
1 or 2 short Mountain stages are fine but 3 is just too much.And two of them are ----/.
Problem is, you really can't do any better in the Blockhaus stage, and Ortisei is as good as it gets. Oropa is not really a mountain stage, and really, along with Canazei and Piancavallo is the only hard stage I dislike so yes I agree with you.
Also the long Mountain stages are better imo because it makes the stage much harder för Thé doms to control and it becomes mano a mano.
E.g. Gardeccia 2011
A stage, to provide spectacle, needs ballsy riders. Of course, you would have to have a decently designed stage, but that's 10% of it all. Aubisque last year was a greatly designed stage, but nothing really happened until the last climb because no one wanted to go early. Fuente Dé was the most generic hilly stage you could design and yet it was one of the most entertaining of the last 10 years.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 28-10-2016 15:19
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Quintana considers Giro-Tour double https://velonews.c...017_423860
“The Tour and Vuelta didn’t turn out so bad, so maybe we can try it with the Giro and Tour,” Quintana said Friday in a press conference. “If we don’t try, we’ll never know what will happen.”
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 28-10-2016 15:34
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Shonak wrote:
Quintana considers Giro-Tour double https://velonews.c...017_423860
“The Tour and Vuelta didn’t turn out so bad, so maybe we can try it with the Giro and Tour,” Quintana said Friday in a press conference. “If we don’t try, we’ll never know what will happen.”
There could be some real bluffing for the Giro/Tour next year. Froome has declared and interest, now Quintana. They are probably trying to affect each others training schedules before putting everything into the Tour.
Contador will be praying they both do the Giro as then he might have a chance at the Tour.
Chances are they will both do the Tour/Vuelta again as usual.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 28-10-2016 15:56
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matt17br wrote:
I will design a stage that will finish in Ortisei with Fedaia and Sella as last climbs.I am also pissed that Fedaia is not included.You will see the possibility with the stage to make it much better.Just like the other stages
I mean, good for you. But that's the best designed mountain stage in quite a few years, adding the Passo Fedaia would have meant increasing kilometers or at least eliminating one of the mountains before then.
That stage is perfect for early attacks and modifying it in any way would spoil it: you can attack anywhere, be it in one of the first 3 passes, in the false flat sections to Canazei or Cemadoi, in the steep descent to Ponte Gardena or anywhere else. In a stage like that you can attack whenever you want just like what happened at Vuelta, where it was even before the first climbs of the day.
And thanks for saying that Grande Partenza is not a term.My Italian is non existent.
I guess it's not your fault, Google returns tons of grande partenza results from sources who want to mimic the Tour's saying for the grand depart. But it's just so awkward sounding
1 or 2 short Mountain stages are fine but 3 is just too much.And two of them are ----/.
Problem is, you really can't do any better in the Blockhaus stage, and Ortisei is as good as it gets. Oropa is not really a mountain stage, and really, along with Canazei and Piancavallo is the only hard stage I dislike so yes I agree with you.
Also the long Mountain stages are better imo because it makes the stage much harder för Thé doms to control and it becomes mano a mano.
E.g. Gardeccia 2011
A stage, to provide spectacle, needs ballsy riders. Of course, you would have to have a decently designed stage, but that's 10% of it all. Aubisque last year was a greatly designed stage, but nothing really happened until the last climb because no one wanted to go early. Fuente Dé was the most generic hilly stage you could design and yet it was one of the most entertaining of the last 10 years.
Quote 1:I disagree with you.The Ortisei stage will only have last climb as action.
Quote 3:I was rather saying that 2 of the 3 short mt stages(Oropa,Blockhaus) are --/ which means that there will not be an ambush ala Andalo/Formigal which means that the stage can be at least a bit longer.And you can't do more with Blockhaus indeed except climbing Passo San Leonardo before it.
Quote 4:It was clear that there was gonna be very little action before the final climb on Aubisque stage because the stage had too many flat parts and the last climb was the hardest but all those climbs made sure that the legs will be tired when they hit the final climb.And Fuente De delivered because it had The Great One.And the importance of the stage design is more than %10 in my opinion.
Edited by Forever the Best on 28-10-2016 16:24
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| matt17br |
Posted on 28-10-2016 17:12
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I disagree with you.The Ortisei stage will only have last climb as action.
I have no crystal ball, cool to know you got a working one!
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