Hey now!

Sunkist is on a hiatus until I finish Tour of Michigan!

Stop ruining the Sunkist name

Quite a bit more than that actually, but I guess you only looked at the 1st page.

A lot of stories are waiting on a patch as well, as some like to make the thread ahead of time which usually doesn't end well.

This time of year, there aren't many good db's to start long careers with either.

Tomorrow evening will the first big DB be out
(French Community DB)

I learned from many other stories that hurrying can only make story finish quicker.
I am going to update my story now, but won't hurry when it comes to racing, firstly will check French Community DB and new patch, but i can play what i want at least in first 2 seasons for my story, since it doesn't requires huge DB.

Definitely only 4 across the whole sub-forum
There are two others that are on 10 pages, but I said get past 10 pages
Indeed, but what's the point starting the thread now? I have a story planned for when the next patch --> Daily DB comes out but I haven't started a thread yet

And yes a lot people will be waiting for a good db to come out, but as a percentage, it's a very small one that continues past January or February

Can you guys stop quoting the trollface?

Yes.

No one uses the French DB when there is a Daily DB.

Not JesleyH!

*meekly raises his hand*

We all know how smart he is

Erm, guys... I guess the "Everything else" forum is specifically for not discussing Pro Cycling Manager

But anyway, concerning stories, yes, I don't see much point in creating a story that you want to last for months now given the last patch hasn't been released.

Concerning the comparisons about PCMDaily DB and French DB, they are very different DBs, it's hard to compare. The PCMDaily DB I guess everybody knows already. The French DB, afaik, is among the category of the "Giant DBs", like FCM, Excya, PPDB, etc, meaning that its biggest difference is having many teams and races. The obvious advantage of that is having more teams and races, a problem with that is that the game will be less estable, not-so realistic fields in the lower races, since they add teams and races from all over the world but can't specialize in all of them, and also the teams/races ratio can be a bit messed up, specially with PCM13's new fitness system which require more races, it's worth to keep an eye on it.

That said, there are things that people disagree in all DBs. In the French one, for example, from what I've seen I disagree with the need to remember which DB you're playing with everywhere, like the kms-to-go banners. Besides, you get a variant for the Giro dell'Appennino, I'm shocked But of course there are many great things. What doesn't sound much smart to me is saying that you won't use a DB "just because"

Meh, I just hope I'm not sounding like Jesleyh talking about Dutch riders in the stat discussion thread

No, I kind of agree luigi. The bonuses of the French db is that you can play as a tiny team from France (or another country but Im sure being a French db they aren't going to forget the small French teams), with maybe one alright rider and the rest are only going to fight in the breakaway. With that team, you race in a lot of really small local french races, and getting results can feel awesome when they do finally happen. To me, the Giant Db's are meant to be played as the smaller teams.

Generally, the larger db's fall behind where the PCM,daily db excels which is having consistent and high quality graphics, and having great and very accurate stats for ~95% of the riders



And "no one uses the French DB when there is the Daily Db", well maybe, but I think the French DB for PCM 10 was the most popular db around, several people even used it here, because it was quite good as far as I remember.


The worst part about all of this, is I think the newer PCM's introduced a team-limit so there can only be about 140 teams instead of near 200 like there was in the older Giant DB's.

"The bonuses of the French db is that you can play as a tiny team from France"



Really, you guys must have a LOT of time to play PCM, playing as a small team usually means like 5 year career to WT level...

I usually just stick with WT and Custom teams

No, I will get it done. I had oral surgery to remove a piece of jawbone, so I've been resting.

@valverde: The team limit is gone this year.

Yes, that's exactly where the Giant DBs are the nicest to play with, the smaller teams in the small races And indeed the team-limits sucks (thought I'm not so sure it's still there in PCM13? And hadn't someone found a way to get past it?). I think it's 154 teams btw. The XXX Database of Bikex and Michiel was looking really promising on this. And being a Giant DB based on PCMDaily's DB, I think it'd end all discussions Too bad it wasn't released for PCM12... I hope they still give it a go for 13.


Well, I also disagreed with that sentence That said, I think you're mistaking it with something else. PCMDaily's PCM10 DB is the most downloaded thing on PCMDaily, and thus I'd guess the most downloaded DB ever for PCM (46.912 downloads!)

Really? If that's true,it would be awesome!

I meant on all Fan-Sites. Im pretty sure it was downloaded quite a bit on official forums. The official thread over there had over 300 pages I think. The biggest downfall of that db was the fact it just re-used stages with similar profiles.

Plus its hard to compare without it being in the downloads section, but if it wasn't the most popular it was a very close second imo (in terms of popularity, not necessarily quality), although it had more bugs as well and the Daily db is what started my Veilleux story so of course its great too