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The PT peloton is back in the basque county for the Classica San Sebastian! Same route as last season, that is, nearly 210 km of the caracteristic hills of the area.

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Except Simone Ponzi the two last seasons, and Valverde in the early 2010’s nobody ever won the race twice. Some returning winners will want to join him in this palmares.

Former winners


2022Simone PonziMoser - Sygic
2021Simone PonziTeam UBS
2020Simon YatesDesigual
2019Tomohiro KinoshitaRakuten Pro Cycling
2018Alexey LutsenkoTeam Reddit
2017Edvald Boasson HagenGrieg - Eftel
2016Aleksandar FlügelWiesenhof -Andritz
2015Olexsandr PrevarChildren of Chernobyl Foundation p/b Nemiroff
2014Cesare Di MaggioVenchi - Ferranti
2013Nicolas RocheING Cycling - Project
2012Alejandro ValverdeProximus - Trek
2011Juan Jose CoboSantander
2010Alejandro ValverdeSantander


2022 results


1Simone PonziMoser - Sygic5h21'36
2Peter SaganMoser - Sygics.t.
3Alexey LutsenkoGazelles.t.
4Ronnilan QuitaKing Powers.t.
5Odd Christian EikingGjensidige Pro Cycling Teams.t.
6Eduard Alexander BeltranCedevitas.t.
7Kamil MaleckiGazelles.t.
8Emanuel BuchmannTeam UBSs.t.
9Andres Camilo ArdilaCedevitas.t.
10Jack BobridgeDuolingos.t.
11Sergio HiguitaIsostar - Specializeds.t.
12David GauduCedevitas.t.
13Yevgeniy GidichKing Powers.t.
14Tomohiro KinoshitaVoyagin - Birds.t.
15Attila ValterEA Vesuvios.t.
16Jhonatan NarvaezZwift Pro Cyclings.t.
17Oleksandr PrevarTeam Popo4Evers.t.
18Pedro Miguel PaulinhoBinances.t.
19Hugh CarthycycleYorkshires.t.
20Philip LaveryGjensidige Pro Cycling Teams.t.


Last season, the race was won by a sprint of a select group. To win, one will need strong physical abilities in the hills, as well as a good kick to the finish line.

Favorites


HIMTACSPSTRS
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/evo.png Lopez847978667674
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/min.png Kinoshita837277688077
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/aau.png McCarthy826774658075
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/coc.png Kelderman827172678075
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/yor.png Yates817080777770
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/snz.png Bobridge816777677171
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/aab.png Gesbert807473688078
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/zal.png Moscon807373597677
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/eav.png Valter807778697675
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/mck.png Boswell807176657773
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/ziz.png Borges807081717573


Former winners pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/min.png Kinoshita and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/yor.png Yates are back to take a prestigious win and make it in the favorite list. The former will have to do better than last year though…

But we have an obvious favorite, in the name of pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/evo.png Lopez. He’s the best puncheur and climber here, and has a the kick needed to win on the line, though his team isn’t that strong.

The PCT teams also have their chances here, particularly Colombini with pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/coc.png Kelderman who was disappointing last season, coming only 22nd.
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/snz.png Bobridge, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/aab.png Gesbert, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/zal.png Moscon and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/mck.png Boswell are in this category.

But behind Lopez, Kinoshita, Kelderman, Yates and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2023/Micros/aau.png McCarthy.



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McCarthyJayAmaysim Australia.com
StorerMichaelAmaysim Australia.com
HamiltonChrisAmaysim Australia.com
LanePatrickAmaysim Australia.com
MillerNickAmaysim Australia.com
ChristensenRyanAmaysim Australia.com
WohlerAlexAmaysim Australia.com
KenchJoshAmaysim Australia.com
GesbertElieAssa Abloy
ChavesJohan EstebanAssa Abloy
MoscaJacopoAssa Abloy
GebremedhinAwetAssa Abloy
KvistLinusAssa Abloy
MagnussonKimAssa Abloy
Bergstrom FriskErikAssa Abloy
HooleDaanAssa Abloy
GauduDavidCedevita
SvabJernejCedevita
BouchardGeoffreyCedevita
BuitragoSantiagoCedevita
GovekarMatevzCedevita
HocevarKristjanCedevita
WrightFredCedevita
StojnicVeljkoCedevita
KeldermanWilcoColombini Cycling
GebrezgabihierAmanuelColombini Cycling
VliegenLoicColombini Cycling
BdadouYoussefColombini Cycling
BonelloDanielColombini Cycling
AquilaniAndreaColombini Cycling
SprengerFelixColombini Cycling
JeleKwaneleColombini Cycling
YatesSimoncycleYorkshire
RomoJaviercycleYorkshire
CarthyHughcycleYorkshire
SkaarsethAnderscycleYorkshire
BalleriniDavidecycleYorkshire
AntonijevicGorancycleYorkshire
BarbariAdelcycleYorkshire
AtkinsGeorgecycleYorkshire
MosconGianniDK Zalgiris
LaasMartinDK Zalgiris
SchönbergerSebastianDK Zalgiris
BudenieksKristapsDK Zalgiris
AffonsoMuriloDK Zalgiris
HerradaJesusDK Zalgiris
FrankovicMateoDK Zalgiris
PszczolarskiWojciechDK Zalgiris
StannardRobertDuckDuckGo - Everesting
GuerreiroRubenDuckDuckGo - Everesting
ArndtNikiasDuckDuckGo - Everesting
HenaoSebastianDuckDuckGo - Everesting
MontenegroSantiagoDuckDuckGo - Everesting
KulikovskiyAlexandrDuckDuckGo - Everesting
ZegklisNikolaosDuckDuckGo - Everesting
VahtraNormanDuckDuckGo - Everesting
ValterAttilaEA Vesuvio
GenietsKevinEA Vesuvio
BaxSjoerdEA Vesuvio
SmitWillieEA Vesuvio
KirschAlexEA Vesuvio
RucigajZigaEA Vesuvio
LampawogJayEA Vesuvio
ZingleAxelEA Vesuvio
LopezMiguel AngelEvonik - ELKO
KanepejsDeinsEvonik - ELKO
GavarsEriks TomsEvonik - ELKO
PolancJanEvonik - ELKO
JanuskeviciusMantasEvonik - ELKO
BattistellaSamueleEvonik - ELKO
KrastsAlekssEvonik - ELKO
Bergstrom FriskHannesEvonik - ELKO
RobovMomchilGenii Hyundai N Cycling
PavlicMarkoGenii Hyundai N Cycling
BurmannWolfgangGenii Hyundai N Cycling
SelimovicHuseinGenii Hyundai N Cycling
StoenchevValentinGenii Hyundai N Cycling
HenttalaJoonasGenii Hyundai N Cycling
UhiriweRenusGenii Hyundai N Cycling
VernonEthanGenii Hyundai N Cycling
McKennaSeanGlanbia
DunneConorGlanbia
EastmanRyanGlanbia
MainKentGlanbia
HealyBenGlanbia
CheyneJordanGlanbia
PedenGeorgeGlanbia
PlowrightJensenGlanbia
BilbaoPelloIndosat Ooredoo
SetiawaAndreas Odie PurnamaIndosat Ooredoo
CahyadiAimanIndosat Ooredoo
AhmadFirdausIndosat Ooredoo
WibisonoRachmad NokaIndosat Ooredoo
KochetkovMikhailIndosat Ooredoo
FirdausPrasetyoIndosat Ooredoo
ErrazkinXubanJura GIANTS
SchmidMauroJura GIANTS
TediashviliGiorgiJura GIANTS
StehliFelixJura GIANTS
Bakke ChristophersenCedricJura GIANTS
PageHugoJura GIANTS
JanssenChristophJura GIANTS
RaugalaGustasJura GIANTS
De PlusLaurensLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
BagioliNicolaLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
CoviAlessandroLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
PotockiViktorLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
CalzoniWalterLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
VerwilstAaronLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
PiccoloAndreaLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
BiermansJentheLierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam
BoswellIanMcCormick Pro Cycling
BagioliAndreaMcCormick Pro Cycling
NarvaezJhonatanMcCormick Pro Cycling
SeigleRomanMcCormick Pro Cycling
MohammadFikri AzkaMcCormick Pro Cycling
NaudPatrickMcCormick Pro Cycling
MatteCharlesMcCormick Pro Cycling
MatsudaShoiMcCormick Pro Cycling
KinoshitaTomohiroMinions
SlagterTom JelteMinions
MarcosLeandroMinions
AlexanderNathanMinions
QuintanaDayerMinions
VoisardYannisMinions
BolivarIsaacMinions
PerezCristianMinions
ArdilaAndres CamiloMOL Cycling Team
FilutasViktorMOL Cycling Team
DinaMartonMOL Cycling Team
BassoLeonardoMOL Cycling Team
Carretero MillanHectorMOL Cycling Team
KennaughTimMOL Cycling Team
DonovanMarkMOL Cycling Team
StancuGeorge AlexandruMOL Cycling Team
CernyJosefMoser - Sygic
NeumanDominikMoser - Sygic
HoflandMorenoMoser - Sygic
KhederiSouheilMoser - Sygic
ToupalikAdamMoser - Sygic
StocekMatusMoser - Sygic
BonnamourFranckMoser - Sygic
HosekJosefMoser - Sygic
Le RouxRomainPolar
BartheCyrilPolar
CarpenterRobinPolar
ShikaiChenPolar
OldaniStefanoPolar
ChristakosDimitriosPolar
NychArtemPolar
LaukKarl PatrickPolar
BobridgeJackSpark-BNZ Racing
YatesJoelSpark-BNZ Racing
McCormickHaydenSpark-BNZ Racing
SakalouAndreiSpark-BNZ Racing
BevinPatrickSpark-BNZ Racing
RodriguezCarlosSpark-BNZ Racing
ErdenesurenMunkhtulgaSpark-BNZ Racing
BattsengelAmartuvshinSpark-BNZ Racing
MadouasValentinTeam Puma - SAP
ZwiehoffBenTeam Puma - SAP
EggerMike AaronTeam Puma - SAP
SchinnagelJohannesTeam Puma - SAP
JohannessenTobias HallandTeam Puma - SAP
ZimmermannGeorgTeam Puma - SAP
FortunatoLorenzoTeam Puma - SAP
CemazarNikTeam Puma - SAP
KronAndreasTryg - Gobik
SchlegelMichalTryg - Gobik
HoelgaardDanielTryg - Gobik
KumpMarkoTryg - Gobik
SleenTorjusTryg - Gobik
IversenRasmusTryg - Gobik
NyoniSimiloTryg - Gobik
BorgesBrunoZARA - Irizar
MasEnricZARA - Irizar
FernandezRubenZARA - Irizar
FinklerLeonardo HenriqueZARA - Irizar
De La Cruz ChapulinLuis FernandoZARA - Irizar
MiquelPauZARA - Irizar
SamHenry AlbertoZARA - Irizar
GilmoreBradyZARA - Irizar
AckermannPascalZwift Pro Cycling
RhimBrendanZwift Pro Cycling
JussaumeTristanZwift Pro Cycling
GirmayBiniamZwift Pro Cycling
RyukiUgaZwift Pro Cycling
GloagThomasZwift Pro Cycling
CanalCarlosZwift Pro Cycling
PickrellRileyZwift Pro Cycling



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quadsas
Top 10 for Moscon would be perfect, lack of sprint porbably eliminates him from top contention no matter how good of a day hell have
deez
 
Marcovdw
I know I shouldn't hope for anything with Kinoshita, but it would be nice if we got a somewhat decent result
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KaiserAdler
Fingers crossed Kelderman finally shows his price was worth it.
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Flop of the year 2023

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knockout
Its a hilly classic and Lopez is here so i obviously have high expectations. The remark about a bad support is warranted since I couldn't even send Blums here due to a lack of RDs
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Fabianski
We obviously don't have one of the race's top favourites here. But especially Quita's result, and also the likes of Malecki, Gaudu or Narvaez finishing inside the Top 20 last year gives me some hope that Errazkin or Schmid could finish similarly strong. 20 points - equivalent to a Top 15 - is our goal, but after the surprisingly good Deutschland outcome any points here basically are a bonus.

Will be interesting to see if the pure puncheurs - i.e. sub-70 Mo - will continue to struggle; with all of that climbing before the last hill, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them out of contention...

My money would be on Yates to win the race from a reduced bunch sprint, but I'm looking forward to compete with all these big guns anyway Smile

Good luck to all, thanks for the preview!
 
Luis Leon Sanchez
Could really do with a big performance from Borges here! He's got the acceleration to make the difference in the finale if he can stick with the other top favourites. Alternatively, if climbing does have a big impact, then Mas may be able to put out a big performance of his own!

Thank you for the preview and looking forward to this one Wink
 
MacC
Probably not the best use of 2 Eastman days but if it's very selective he might be able to finish in a small front group

Thanks for the preview and good luck all
 
redordead
This is a free hit for us. Most importantly the young riders get some exp. If anyone breaks into the top 20-30 then great, but I feel like I should have used up my fair share of luck by now.

Thanks for the preview.

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Ollfardh
Needing a good result for the promotion fight vs. Not making the favorites list in the preview.
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ryant
Yates should be a decent favourite, Lopez may well be the top fav but it depends on if it finishes in a small bunch finish like last year. We bring a decent team here I feel so Yates will be well supported, a top 10 is a must but more would be a very welcome occurrence for us to get over the disappointment of the most recent races in Slovenia and Deutschland.
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baseballlover312
I love PCT teams. PCT teams should take as many points as they want. Great job today PCT teams!
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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knockout
Yeah that simply was not good enough. Wasnt sure if this is the best race for Lopez but losing points to Valter and Madouas is really not that good.
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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Marcovdw
Just ignore those PCT teams and we won Pfft

Probably best result of Kinoshita this season and can't fault him for not winning. Congrats Gustavovskiy!
Manager of Minions
 
Fabianski
Banana Banana Banana

Mauro!!! What a ride, what a result!
I was secretly (well, not really, given my frequent comparisons with Meurisse) hoping for an overperformance like this, but to really see it happen is just amazing! Even more so given that it was a PTHC race, the biggest possible (scoring) stage for a PCT rider!

I was pretty positive that this race should suit him: quite some climbing, but not too much, plus a finish after a downhilll and a short flat. I'd say he did perfectly play out his strengths - and obviously he was on a stellar day, keeping up with the guys he did, and even repeated attacking. He was probably the best suited rider for this kind of finale in the front group, with his combo of climbing, downhill and sprinting - not using as much energy as e.g. Yates on the longer climbs and in the downhill, and then just sprinting a tad faster than Kinoshita and the others.

Well, this surely is a career milestone for young Mauro, just like 2nd place in Avenir last year and 4th in Viana this year. And - looking at previous results this year - makes me wonder whether a more sprint-focused development plan would actually be the right pick for him...
But for now, we just enjoy another completely surreal result this month - that's more than 400 points scored already in August, including our first ever PTHC classic podium by a homegrown (and not yet fully developed) rider, just insane what's currently going on...


Huge congrats obviously to DuckDuckGo - I actually thought Stannard would like this race as well, but they Arndt apparently had even better legs! Decent result as well for Wilco, being the 3rd best PCT finisher here!
Also nice to see the Minions do well - survival will still be difficult to achieve, but it's a sign of life at least!
And as knockout wrote, probably not the best suited race for the top puncheurs/hybrids with a somewhat lower sprint skill, but your next chance will surely come soon Smile

Thanks for the report, enjoyed it for obvious reasons Wink
 
quadsas
Moscon is having a season to forget thats for sure. Two in top 25 is fine I guess
deez
 
Ulrich Ulriksen
Clearly the Boswell rider type's time has passed as he once again takes a back seat to the young guys who can sprint. Narvaez 12th at this level is a great outcome and Bagioli chips in as well.

Thanks for the report, I assume it was raining, the haze in all the screenshots gave it kind of an epic feel.
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KaiserAdler
Decent result for Wilco. Really happy with this. Finally showing why I paid all that money for him.
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Flop of the year 2023

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redordead
Decent racing and Gaudu in 16th place is pretty good also.

Thanks for the report Smile

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Ollfardh
One spot behind MAL, that has to be a good result!

Thank you for the report.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
 
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