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Post Danmark Rundt Discussion
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Post Danmark Rundt
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The race goes into it's 10th edition this year, being part of the MG calendar since 2008. After being downgraded to CT status last season, with Kiril Yatsevich taking the overall victory, the race is back in the PCT schedule with HC status. Whoever is going to win this year's edition, will join a spectacular honour roll: Jacob Fiedler (2015), Michael Rogers (2014), David Zabriskie (2013), Kai Reus (2012) or Dominique Cornu (2010) as some standout timetrial specialists, who did ride to overall victories here.

And the main character of the race is still the same: the concluding timetrial will be the key stage for the GC contenders. Opposing to previous years though, it's not an all-flat race anymore. Stage three comes with a hilly profile and while it ain't looking like a stage, that should blow the field into pieces, it will definitely be another key stage for those, who aim for the GC - as it does feature an Ardennesque uphill finish: short, but steep. No good news for some pure TT specialists, who can not climb a hill properly.

The Startlist
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The TT specialists
BestFLHITTRestFLHITT
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png Cornu757281pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gre.png Dempster746479
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/npn.png Ford635581pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png Kwok766279
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/frs.png Ignatiev807580pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png Goncalves707178
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vad.png Paillot707180pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gre.png Atkins756878
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png Sergent796980pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cdb.png Quaade716378
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ora.png Viennet726780pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gre.png Sterobo706278
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Van Winden746380pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cpl.png Li756178
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png Dillier706380pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cdb.png Steensen747277
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/new.png Fraile697279pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vad.png Pökälä707177
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/iso.png Brändle757179pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png Rolland707077
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png Viviani786679pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png Ghyselinck746877


A previous race winner is the top-favorite for the 2017 edition of the event: Cornu is the man to beat here. The best TT specialist amongst all riders and also capable of surviving a hilly stage like this in the main group. Will he be able to repeat his GC victory from 2010? It's been a long time since then, but he may fancy his chances thanks to the more challenging road stage(s) now.

Opposing to guys like Michael Ford, Van Winden or Dillier in particular. It should be a hard task for them to get away with no time loss in the hilly stage, but if they limit the losses, they should be all capable of gaining back time in the almost 30km timetrial later on.

There are more promising contenders for Cornu though: Ignatiev surely as the most dangerous threat for the GC win. His allround package is so strong, that it would be disappointing, if he doesn't end up on the GC podium - at least. Other possible podium contenders are Paillot, Sergent, Viennet, Fraile, Brändle or Goncalves.

The Sprinters
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pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/vad.png Lo Cicero64568478pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/eus.png Bouhanni63558077
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png Mohs65668382pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Vanoverschelde62598075
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ora.png Kennaugh65638281pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/npn.png Serebriakov61648077
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cdb.png Appollonio66618178pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png Itami61638082
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/tic.png Guillén61568182pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png Van der Sande70587979
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/t3a.png Nelson60568181pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/t3a.png Docker68687977
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/new.png Maksimov58698184pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ubs.png Reinhardt67677984
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png Van Asbroeck71668078pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png Stepniak67647979
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrm.png Keukeleire70588079pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpu.png Peeters62647977
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png Guardini64598082pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/frs.png Modolo73587881


Three flat stages and one (less hard looking hilly stage) - the Post Danmark Rundt remains being attractive for the division's top sprinters. And it's a stacked field of sprinters here:

Lo Cicero, Mohs and Kennaugh as the standout sprinters on paper. Lo Cicero not exactly enjoying a great season, but it may be about time to show that he's still a force. A few more 81+ could make things difficult though: Appollonio (who's much stronger this year), Guillén, Nelson and Maksimov.

Van Asbroeck and Keukeleire as the best sprinters in terms of surviving hills. They may even target stage three that way. Guardini, Bouhanni, Vanoverschelde, Serbriakov, Itami.. the list of 80+ sprinters and possible stage-winners is quite long. We should expect some tight sprint decisions.

The Others
PuncheursFLHITTRiders to watchFLHITT
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ssc.png Moazemi677869pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/iso.png Navardauskas757476
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gre.png Watson707868pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/frs.png Grivko687472
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/iso.png Quevedo697865pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/npn.png Hudecek687472
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/frs.png Barbin697863pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/frs.png Walker727471
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/fab.png Poljanski667767pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png Kuboki737375
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ora.png Edet677759pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/new.png Abreu737375
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/t3a.png Yates727668pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/cdb.png De Maar757372
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ged.png Lavery697664pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/npn.png Pokidov687372
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/new.png Acevedo697664pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gre.png Olsson717371
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/mei.png Hatanaka707663
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/npn.png Kadri737661


Stage three obviously a tricky one, as it did not attract too many puncheurs to try their luck here. In fact, we only got a handful of 78 HI guys, who do not even timetrial too well. So guys like Moazemi, Watson, Quevedo or Barbin will most likely only aim for some stage-success here. Which could make things interesting for a neutral spectator, to be honest.

Given the less strong field of puncheurs, even the less strong climbers may fancy their GC chances then: Navardauskas definitely as the most interesting "dark horse" in this field. His allround package may be strong enough to achieve a notable result here. A few other less promising dark horses may be Grivko, Hudecek, Walker, Kuboki or Abreu. They all combine hills and timetrials pretty well, even though they are definitely too far down the TT ranking to be considered Top-20 contenders. Anyway, we've seen surprises before, so those guys may be the first to perform, if some big guns fail.
 
valverde321
Somehow hoping Kuboki/Kwok can get another good result here, but Itami and Hatanaka can hopefully place well on stages as well. If its Kuboki gonna have to hope for a selection on the hilly stage and that Kuboki is in the front group ahead of some of the other TT riders, but its a pretty "flat" looking hilly stage, so we'll see.
 
jandal7
Just as in the PT right now it seems this race clash has found itself with a quite one-sided startlist (so screw you all for probably giving cycleYorkshire a buttload of points if they're in Slovenie). Tough luck for Isostar but Brändle showed promise in Norway and Navardauskas could be fun here. Would like to see Sergent perform as well.
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Just as in the PT right now it seems this race clash has found itself with a quite one-sided startlist (so screw you all for probably giving cycleYorkshire a buttload of points if they're in Slovenie). Tough luck for Isostar but Brändle showed promise in Norway and Navardauskas could be fun here. Would like to see Sergent perform as well.


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Atlantius
Sort of a home race for us but the first time we have been allowed to race it so that will be fun.

Ivano needs to start performing and this could be a good time for Vinther to turn in to the lead-out force he was last year again. Homesoil should motivate?
Perhaps Vastaranta will caryy his Vuelta-form into the hilly stage? That could be fun!

Otherwise I just hope that Paillot will avoid time losses until the final TT. It have been a bad tendency to use him as one of the first in chasing the break and then he is tired when the peloton cracks and I'm not confident that PCM will be clever enough to actually handle his GC chances decently...

The startlist could open for a decent GC for Pökälä even, which would be very nice as he seems to have lost a lot of TT-motivation since his surprising defeat in the NC.

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tastasol
We lack a TT rider that goes well on the hills, so we can't hope for too much here. Hoping mainly for some good, aggressive riding.

Ignatiev, Cornu and Navardauskas my three favourites for this one.
 
Ollfardh
I got scared when I saw Vanbilsen as leader here, did I mess up my planning? Apparently not, cause Van Asbroeck is here as well. Still on clue why Vanbilsen is here though Pfft

No GC ambitions due to the long TT, but I hope for a good result on stages 2-3.
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Selwink
I'm slightly worried about the hilly stage and Ford, who will probably end up about last there. Serebriakov will need some luck to sprint well here, but hopefully either of the two manages to surprise me.
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Well hopefully Ricki can get himself involved once or twice, maybe Docker will be useful in that. Yates could be interesting on the hilly day. G as a strong man could help Ricki or move late in a day. Matthews here as maybe our best GC option and he's still having a good strong year.
We've got a couple of ways to get points out of here, but they're not the best. We'll just see how it plays out.
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I'd put my money on Ignatiev here, he should be the strongest
 
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So Ranneries is listed as my leader here. I'm a little more than confused. Not a good sign for Appo.

Obviously we want to perform well in our home race, but we'll see how realistic of a possibility that is.
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Yes, I failed planning to send Brändle here and not to Slovenia.
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One of those race we need to overpreform a little bit if we want to win the PCT. I'm looking at you Fraile and Maksimov. Should be an interesting race that will be decided on the final stage.
 
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valverde321
Itami has really been having a bit of a comeback season this year. 4th is good.
 
Atlantius
Terrible, terrible stage for us.
Like Cicero nowhere to be found. Now I just hope that Paillot wasn't too hurt in the crash, but seeing our luck this season I expect him to lose a few minutes before the TT.

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Ollfardh
8th is not the best result of course, but it was close. The next two stages should be better for Van Asbroeck.
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tastasol
Nothing lost, so guess it's okay Pfft
 
Selwink
5th is good, and luckily Ford doesn't seem injured
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TheManxMissile
Very strong looking G. Very active looking Ricki. Great start!

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Nothing yet. Hopefully Brändle, Quevedo and Navardauskas can do their magic later.
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