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Tour de Pologne Discussion
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Tour de Pologne
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7th edition, 4th in the lowest division for one of the two Polish events in the Man-Game calendar: the Tour de Pologne. Traditionally a puncheurs’ race, with not a single stage that can be considered really easy, the event features 4 hard hilly stages, all based off circuits that value the characteristic, long Polish hills. Even the flat stages are made hard by their length: 2 of those are longer than 230 kms, and therefore a huge advantage to both finisseurs and tough sprinters.

Last year, consistency was clearly the key, and even without winning a single stage, Andrey Zeits managed to stand at the top of the podium on day 7. Looking at this year’s route and startlist, it’s not hard to imagine that the scenario will be similar. pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpm.png Dowsett, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kmm.png Klemme and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Barbin, the best puncheurs of the division, are in fact all here and all of them have shown that they can excel in longer stage races, but several of their usual rivals are also here with GC chances.

The field is not as good sprinters-wise, because of how many were scared away by the length of the stages that would suit them, but that doesn’t mean that we’re lacking quality! I’d say it’s time to take a better look at the startlist and find out who we can count in for a race under the spotlight, then!

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PuncheurHILACCRESSPRPuncheurHILACCRESSPR
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpm.png Dowsett80716966pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Michely75756967
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kmm.png Klemme80667066pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Kinney75747069
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Barbin78757371pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Mancuso75736865
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/0r8.png Diggle77707064pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Milan75727270
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Lejman77686459pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Grivko75707354
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Hategeka77666962pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/elt.png Bru75706466
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/t3a.png Yates76786973pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/nwb.png Khripta75697263
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Pavarin76766972pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/0r8.png Lloyd75697263
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/yas.png Tiernan-Locke76746863pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/elt.png Ilias75687264
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/nwb.png Taborre76726962pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cdb_cur.png De Maar74777266
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/hpa.png Passalacqua76696362pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/iso.png Bole74746776
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/0r8.png Nzeke76686766pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tcr.png Gonzalez Cortes74727271
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Krizek75767167pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Navardauskas74707475

As said, it’s hard to look past pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/lpm.png Dowsett, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kmm.png Klemme and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Barbin for the title of favourite. The former has been more inconsistent than the other 2, it has to be said, but he couldn’t ask for a better support cast. The German could have asked for a stronger hilly team, but the route probably makes him the best bet, while the Italian really should be used by now to how good his teammates are.

That said, CT races have taught us that such a word like ‘favourite’ doesn’t really exist after the riders start to pedal. A rider like pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/0r8.png Diggle or pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/t3a.png Yates is always dangerous, and seldom shows signs of weakness, differently from the likes of pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Hategeka and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Lejman, that normally prefer isolated days of racing to show their prowess.

Other names include pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/yas.png Tiernan-Locke, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/nwb.png Taborre, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/hpa.png Passalacqua, Chiquita’s duo of pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Milan and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Kinney, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/iso.png Bole, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Navardauskas, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tcr.png Gonzalez Cortes and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cdb_cur.png De Maar, but the potential top riders list is a lot longer than just that!

SprinterSPRACCSTARESSprinterSPRACCSTARES
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tvm.png Kip80826763pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cdb.png Sabatini77746962
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Manarelli79797165pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kmm.png Maikin76777172
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/t3a.png Soupe79777269pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Matthews76767067
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/fnz.png Von Hoff79777174pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/elt.png Bouglas76757268
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Napolitano79776861pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/iso.png Bole76747467
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/t3a.png Ewan78776969pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/yas.png Murray75777068
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Szalontay78776465pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/fnz.png Tuulhangai75776864
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/nwb.png Abdallah78767362pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tcr.png Morales75767165
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/nwb.png Trusov78746970pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/fnz.png Witmitz75766860
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cdb.png Boonen78737165pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/t3a.png Alaphilippe75757268
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/esc.png Cimolai77777468pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/esc.png Benfatto75757170
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/hpa.png Uugunbayar77757066pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tvm.png Eefting75747067
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tcr.png Cano77747068pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/frs.png Navardauskas75707474

No Stauff, Nelson or Guillen here, but that doesn’t mean that flat stages will fail to be exciting! With a varied, equal field of sprinters in here, rest assured that every finale will be nearly impossible to predict. pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tvm.png Kip, for instance, is normally someone that prefers short, totally flat stages and therefore won’t have easy life in a race like this, but hey who can blame him for taking part!

Unlike him, however, riders of the calibre of pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/chi.png Manarelli, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/t3a.png Soupe, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/fnz.png Von Hoff and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/esc.png Cimolai can stand the test of time on the saddle, and should be considered the more interesting names for exactly that reason.

Other names such as pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/mop.png Napolitano, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/nwb.png Trusov, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/cdb.png Boonen, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/hpa.png Uugunbayar, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/tcr.png Cano, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/kmm.png Maikin, pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/elt.png Bouglas and pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/iso.png Bole shouldn’t be discounted either, so pay attention!
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jandal7
If this had a TT we could look at a very very good result, so I'll set the bar at a very good result instead. No sprinters means a chance for the hill train to get to work and hopefully deliver us to a top 5 or maybe even better.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Croatia14
Bole + Breakaways + Talent developement...

I call Timmer to be my best scoring rider despite again having the best punchy sprinter in the peloton who should be made for this...
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the_hoyle
All in for Dowsett here. The squad around him are aimed at the hills and no sprintersin sight. Consistency similar to ToSA will be welcomed greatly

Thanks for the report matt
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baseballlover312
Note sure what I'm looking for here. Probably nothing.
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Paul23
Oh Kurwa, seems like I brought a Team for breakaways again. Has anyone statistics on how often all teams went in breaks?
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Marcovdw
Last year Kinney won stage six and I was over the moon. This year I'm hoping on a good GC result by Lejman, Kinney or Milan and a breakaway victory by Weiss or a sprint victory by Manarelli. We have a stage win goal after all.
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sutty68
Will Poland be lucky for us
 
jandal7
Looks like the team is strong during the stage but not at the end - gotta deliver Diggle and Nzeke to the line, not to the last KMs. Lloydy getting a day or two in the KoM is very nice though. Thanks for an excellent report Matt.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Croatia14
oh great, why should we even try?
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the_hoyle
Very happy with that start. 2 in the top 10 and Bille with a good podium place Smile

Thanks for the report matt
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It's a positive start. Lots of visibility and strength on show from Podium Ambition. Fell like we could have gotten a slightly better result at the end, but strength in depth will do nicely in a race like this.

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Marcovdw
Quiet start for the Minions.
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baseballlover312
At least De Maar seems interested. That's a good sign.
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DaveTwoBob
Thanks for the preview and report Matt, this race sneaked under my radar with Christmas cheer in full swing.

Can Klemme get the better of Dowsett and Barbin, defeat the evil wizard and win the heart of the fair maiden of Poland? (It's Panto season Smile)

Tartarinov, Klemme is behind you.
"Oh no he isn't "
"Oh yes he is!"
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sutty68
Hmmmmm Sad
 
Croatia14
cause it's time for it: the same procedure as every day...
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jandal7
Everyone safe with no time losses, onto the next stage where we can hopefully perform better than stage 1
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] i.imgur.com/c85NSl6.png Xero Racing

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the_hoyle
No sprinter in the team so happy not to loss any time, and everyone finish safely in the pack.
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Marcovdw
Nice to see an aggressive Marcos giving the peloton a hard time. Unfortunately Manarelli was too far back
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