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Posted on 04-04-2013 14:51
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A created a new Scandinavian team, Vattenfall Cycling Team, which consists of 15 free riders from Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland, and Thomas Löfkvist.
At the moment I'm riding the Tour of Normandy, a 2.2 race with generally flat stages. My sprinter is Kasper Jebjerg (stats in attachment) and the other sprinters have more or less the same stats (SP 73/ACC 73). As you can see, Jeberg's fitness is not bad, but he is always too tired of trying to stay in front in order to sprint for victory. His only stage win was after an escape in the last 5K because the peloton was hesitating.
Is there anything I'm doing wrong, or is Jebjerg just that weak? (Note: the difficulty level is hard)
Edited by Tjugotre on 04-04-2013 15:03
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 04-04-2013 14:53
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How is his form? That's very important for sprinting.
Maybe his resistance stat is a wee bit low, if he tires out before the sprint... |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 04-04-2013 14:55
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Welcome at the forum! 
Do you use the 'protect' button(right-click, and then the shield) to get him protected the whole stage?
Also, do you set up a sprint train for him which doesn't push too hard to stay in front? Or don't you set up a sprint train at all? Wheelsucking costs a bit more energy than an own sprint train, generally...
And if you set up one, are you sure you don't use the relay(the arrow button), but the follow button(right-click)
And I agree with Ian, the RES stat is a problem. The form is good though(@ Ian, it's in the screenshot  )
Edited by Jesleyh on 04-04-2013 14:56
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| Tjugotre |
Posted on 04-04-2013 14:57
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Ian Butler wrote:
How is his form? That's very important for sprinting.
Maybe his resistance stat is a wee bit low, if he tires out before the sprint...
His form is 89, so that should be enough in my opinion.
Edited by Tjugotre on 04-04-2013 15:04
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| Bikex |
Posted on 04-04-2013 14:59
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To protect him is not very important, you should set up a sprint train and not start sprinting with him before 1,3 km to go
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 04-04-2013 15:00
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Have you raced much on Hard before? Because my first experiences on Hard were quite badly, too. |
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| Tjugotre |
Posted on 04-04-2013 15:00
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Jesleyh wrote:
Welcome at the forum!
Do you use the 'protect' button(right-click, and then the shield) to get him protected the whole stage?
Also, do you set up a sprint train for him which doesn't push too hard to stay in front? Or don't you set up a sprint train at all? Wheelsucking costs a bit more energy than an own sprint train, generally...
And if you set up one, are you sure you don't use the relay(the arrow button), but the follow button(right-click)
And I agree with Ian, the RES stat is a problem. The form is good though(@ Ian, it's in the screenshot )
Yeah, I protected him throughout the stage, and my team isn't strong enough for a sprint train, I've tried it before. But I always use one or two teammates to bring him to the front, using the follow button, after which he can sit in another sprinter's wheel. |
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| Tjugotre |
Posted on 04-04-2013 15:03
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Ian Butler wrote:
Have you raced much on Hard before? Because my first experiences on Hard were quite badly, too.
Yeah, I've raced a few seasons with other teams too. I didn't like winning every race on normal, so I switched to hard. But at the moment, I'm worthless in sprints. In mountain or hill stages on the other hand, I don't have any problems. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 04-04-2013 15:04
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His Res won't be a problem at this race, the stages are not too long or hard, and the competition is fairly similar in level.
Practice is all you need. The results will come.
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| Tjugotre |
Posted on 04-04-2013 15:08
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Thanks for the quick response guys, I think practice makes perfect and I guess I'll have to tweak my sprint tactics to make the best out of it. |
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| 547984 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 23:09
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Tjugotre wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Welcome at the forum!
Do you use the 'protect' button(right-click, and then the shield) to get him protected the whole stage?
Also, do you set up a sprint train for him which doesn't push too hard to stay in front? Or don't you set up a sprint train at all? Wheelsucking costs a bit more energy than an own sprint train, generally...
And if you set up one, are you sure you don't use the relay(the arrow button), but the follow button(right-click)
And I agree with Ian, the RES stat is a problem. The form is good though(@ Ian, it's in the screenshot )
Yeah, I protected him throughout the stage, and my team isn't strong enough for a sprint train, I've tried it before. But I always use one or two teammates to bring him to the front, using the follow button, after which he can sit in another sprinter's wheel.
What do you mean, your team is not strong enough for a sprint train? Are their flat stats below 70 or something?
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| FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 04-04-2013 23:15
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Also, try moving him to the front of the peloton at the start of the stage while the pace is low. Then he won't lose energy trying to gain positions near the finish  |
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| CosmicOsmo |
Posted on 07-04-2013 18:35
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outside of technique which i cant comment on because i havent seen you play the game, theres one glaring problem here:
HIS FITNESS IS ONLY 89!
any rival sprinter with the same stats is gonna be closer to peak for that race. your generally sprinting against third tier riders at Normandy and those guys rarely get the chance to shine on their own. so while you may think 89 fitness is descent to contest a sprint, its just plain not enough to deal with your rivals who may have set that race as their peak goal for the entire season.
if you really want a rider like that to win a race, youve gotta pick clear targets, and work towards getting him in peak shape. a guy like cav can win sprints all year long without being on form but bring him to the TDF at 89% and he wont win much either
top 10 of all time in no particular order, not including the cannibal cause hes automatically #1:
-Gemininani -Nencini -Anquetil -Coppi
-Kelly -Hinault -Zabel -Bettini -Rebellin -Magni
..and honorable mention to Tom Simpson whos career was cut short.
Top 5 noobs most likely to tear it up this season:
-Phinney -Moser -TJ -Guardini -DURBO!
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 07-04-2013 18:43
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CosmicOsmo wrote:
HIS FITNESS IS ONLY 89!
Wait, I thought you didn't support extremes, because the game engine "doesn't work that way". Or that someone else named CosmicOsmo?
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Posted on 07-04-2013 18:47
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NTTHRASH wrote:
CosmicOsmo wrote:
HIS FITNESS IS ONLY 89!
Wait, I thought you didn't support extremes, because the game engine "doesn't work that way". Or that someone else named CosmicOsmo?
WTF are you on about exactly? i oppose using extremes in stats for testing abilities....and that has 0 to do with fitness... and if you could explain yourself a little better than this: https://pcmdaily.c...p?tipid=59 id really appreciate it...
top 10 of all time in no particular order, not including the cannibal cause hes automatically #1:
-Gemininani -Nencini -Anquetil -Coppi
-Kelly -Hinault -Zabel -Bettini -Rebellin -Magni
..and honorable mention to Tom Simpson whos career was cut short.
Top 5 noobs most likely to tear it up this season:
-Phinney -Moser -TJ -Guardini -DURBO!
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Posted on 07-04-2013 18:48
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CosmicOsmo wrote:
NTTHRASH wrote:
CosmicOsmo wrote:
HIS FITNESS IS ONLY 89!
Wait, I thought you didn't support extremes, because the game engine "doesn't work that way". Or that someone else named CosmicOsmo?
WTF are you on about exactly? i oppose using extremes in stats for testing abilities....and that has 0 to do with fitness... and if you could explain yourself a little better than this: https://pcmdaily.c...p?tipid=59 id really appreciate it...
Just playing with you, man. I wasn't trying to get your knickers in a twist.
Edited by NTTHRASH on 07-04-2013 18:48
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| CosmicOsmo |
Posted on 07-04-2013 18:50
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well theyre twisted!! and how did you know i was wearing knickers.....
top 10 of all time in no particular order, not including the cannibal cause hes automatically #1:
-Gemininani -Nencini -Anquetil -Coppi
-Kelly -Hinault -Zabel -Bettini -Rebellin -Magni
..and honorable mention to Tom Simpson whos career was cut short.
Top 5 noobs most likely to tear it up this season:
-Phinney -Moser -TJ -Guardini -DURBO!
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 07-04-2013 18:53
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CosmicOsmo wrote:
well theyre twisted!! and how did you know i was wearing knickers.....
Look out your window!
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Posted on 07-04-2013 18:56
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Back on topic, fitness only truly matters in Simulation, but if the difference between fitness levels is 5+(is that the correct value?), then the higher fitness will perform better if the stats are equivalent.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 08-04-2013 00:45
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CosmicOsmo wrote:
any rival sprinter with the same stats is gonna be closer to peak for that race. your generally sprinting against third tier riders at Normandy and those guys rarely get the chance to shine on their own. so while you may think 89 fitness is descent to contest a sprint, its just plain not enough to deal with your rivals who may have set that race as their peak goal for the entire season.
Given that fitness and racing programs are completely random for CT teams, I don't think they have set the Tour of Normandy as their peak goal for the season It can be easily checked though opening your save with an editor and looking in table DYN_cyclist, column fitness_f_forme, if Tjugotre wants to see that.
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