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2013 Vuelta a Espana - Week 3 (8th September - 15th September)
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-09-2013 17:50
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It is nice to see this thread is full of professionals who cycle 6+ hours everyday and therefore have an idea of how difficult it is do the Vuelta and what is possible..... 
Mind you, a couple of us sometimes ride bikes, even half-decently.
If we can't speak for anything, at least we can read or hear, and re-explain it. Maybe we're just too stupid to read too, but kindergarten was quite a long time ago, so it's fine to assume some of use might have at least some education and enough brain to understand the conclusions of researchers' work.
What's possible and what's not is quite known. LeMond was clean or performing like a clean guy, and was an extremely gifted person for cycling.
20 or 25 years ago riders were already tested, measured on every aspect. Greg LeMond's numbers are known. VO2, Power output, efficiency, etc.
Same thing for proven doped riders, Ullrich, Armstrong, etc. So the effect of doping can be measured, especially when matched with clean riders from the same era or nowadays.
Mind you, what it was possible to achieve clean 25 years ago is not very different to what it is possible to do nowadays.
What Horner does is above what's possible, and rather close to what was done in the EPO & transfusions years (Armstrong's years).
All that at forty-fucking-two.
Other leaders are slightly above what's possible (cleanly).
Sorry for explaining, I'm probably just a retard with no clue and who's never seen a bike (I swear I saw some on TV once though), like all people who express doubts or point their finger at Horner. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 14-09-2013 17:52
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Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
Edited by FreitasPCM on 14-09-2013 17:52
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 17:54
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
Mine didn't, since it was blown earlier by Froome girlfriend. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-09-2013 17:54
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
He's some sort of Redneck-Samurai super hybrid
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 17:55
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FreitasPCM wrote:
Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
A Kenyan and a Japanese GT winner...you can't say McQuaid's 'expand the sport'-policy isn't successful
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-09-2013 17:57
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cio93 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
A Kenyan and a Japanese GT winner...you can't say McQuaid's 'expand the sport'-policy isn't successful
Eugen Wacker 2014 TdF winner
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:00
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issoisso wrote:
cio93 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
A Kenyan and a Japanese GT winner...you can't say McQuaid's 'expand the sport'-policy isn't successful
Eugen Wacker 2014 TdF winner
He'd be just 40. He might need to wait a couple years to gain some much needed experience.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:00
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issoisso wrote:
cio93 wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Horner's Japanese, mind has been blown O.o.
A Kenyan and a Japanese GT winner...you can't say McQuaid's 'expand the sport'-policy isn't successful
Eugen Wacker 2014 TdF winner
If he had enough points maybe. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:05
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Horner 
As for the doping talk, we'll know in about 10 years, just don't worry about it now and enjoy the spectacle.
Great racing by Nibali and Horner! |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:07
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Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:07
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ruben wrote:
As for the doping talk, we'll know in about 10 years
Maybe about the other guys in the top 10. There's no doubt about Horner
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:07
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Horner just took away my innocence
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:11
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issoisso wrote:
Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
Why did he blocked you exactly?  |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:11
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issoisso wrote:
Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
Is there anyone that didn't block you yet? |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:16
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Miguel98 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
Why did he blocked you exactly?
I guess cause he said Horner is now the greatest American GT winner. Wich is true probably lol. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:17
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TimoCycling wrote:
I guess cause he said Horner is now the greatest American GT winner . Wich is true probably lol.
Greg Lemond..
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:19
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TimoCycling wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
Why did he blocked you exactly?
I guess cause he said Horner is now the greatest American GT winner . Wich is true probably lol.
Lemond and Hampsten?
Edited by baseballlover312 on 14-09-2013 18:20
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:26
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baseballlover312 wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
Why did he blocked you exactly?
I guess cause he said Horner is now the greatest American GT winner . Wich is true probably lol.
Lemond and Hampsten?
I know Lemond, and I completely forgot about him. Hampsten I never heard of, both are before my time anyways. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:27
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baseballlover312 wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Armstrong has me blocked. Someone tweet him that Horner is now the greatest american Grand Tour rider ever
Why did he blocked you exactly?
I guess cause he said Horner is now the greatest American GT winner . Wich is true probably lol.
Lemond and Hampsten?
*Tries to resist destroying Hampsten's win *
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-09-2013 18:29
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You've been acting funny for two days now, so please just do. |
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