[PT] Aegon - Lavazza 2018|2019
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Posted on 24-09-2019 16:03
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A little nervous seeing how Velits may perform after last season, but his wage is very decent for the task. It's a squad renewal but I hope you stay high!
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roturn |
Posted on 24-09-2019 16:28
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@ Jandal:
Always hard to lose well performing riders. But think the deal can help both of us in the end. Hopefully the "Magic" is more consistent as last year but if there is at least some of this "Magic" I am more than happy anyway and I guess for that wage I shouldn`t expect too much and can be happy with the small things and highlights here and there.
@ Abishek:
Indeed I think so as well. The new riders in total should outscore the leaving riders even though the highlights might be less with Swift leaving. That said, with Gallopin and Bovenhuis gone, the TONE leadership is with Boom once more. Couldn`t be any better and Bovenhuis might be of bigger help for you really as I lack the leader for him.
@ Yellow Jersey:
Not nervous myself. He should have some shots here and there and is flexible in planning as race days allow 2 GTs, 1 GT or no GT at all. In comparison to Olivier he gives me more options to pick the leaders for mountain races. Either he performs or not, in the end as you said, his wage is slim and for the wage he likely is performing well enough.
Renewal in small parts as the core remains, which was always the younger De Bie, Groenewegen and Olivier! Simply cutting the older and replacing with more Youth. |
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hillis91 |
Posted on 24-09-2019 16:50
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Great place for Eiking to continue his growth
Thank you for taking him in!
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roturn |
Posted on 25-09-2019 09:41
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Final big name signing with Aegon - Lavazza
Nico Keinath was a rider of big interest for several seasons already and now with him turning 32 it was time to get that move finalized. He will be a great rider for 2019 with his allrounder skills and potential GT surprsise qualities. Being good on mountains, hills and time trials he is a nice fit to Velits and Olivier.
Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | Sta | Res | Rec | Cob | Sp | Acc | Fig | Dh | Prl | 74 | 79 | 76 | 75 | 77 | 76 | 76 | 59 | 62 | 70 | 71 | 63 | 75 |
Rumours have it that the transfers are pretty much finalized with only small changes possible including loan deals or late offers on non leaders. |
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Aquarius97 |
Posted on 25-09-2019 09:53
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That high flat could really do wonders compared to 80-81 climbers with low flat. Though not sure how much room to lead he will have with both Velits and Olivier ahead.
Really great signing anyway
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roturn |
Posted on 25-09-2019 09:58
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I have not done race planning yet, but he is not bought for that fee for a support role only ! |
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roturn |
Posted on 29-09-2019 10:21
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2019 will be a season, which is rather untypical with a huge mountain support, something that rarely was given in any previous season. At the same time still being able to improve the supprt for De Bie and also not weaken too much elsewhere or in fact even strengthen the TT lineup as well.
Leaders
De Bie, Groenewegen, Velits
Co-Leaders
Olivier, Keinath, Paillot, Vesely
Luxury Support
Dekker, Zardini, van der Hugenhaben, Sbaragli, Bauhaus
Free Role
Boom, van der Poel, Van Hooydonck
Support
Eiking, Dumoulin, Frison, Thurau, Koep, van der Hoorn, Sendeku, Dlamini
Additionally with the mountain depth we will have in most/all mountain races, it was decided to loan away Ciccone and Carboni to get experience in other teams in the PT division. This results in more race days for the other riders on the team which still has 6 unmaxed riders of which 3 are loaned in (Eiking, Dlamini, Sendeku).
Those two surely will come back stronger in 2020. |
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SotD |
Posted on 29-09-2019 11:40
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You have a really great depth, but I think your leaders will struggle a bit. Obviously I know nothing about training priorities, which could change things drastically.
Your depth will keep you up rather high though!
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 29-09-2019 12:09
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I fear training already. but you have all it takes to attack the Top5 imo. Depth is a key factor from what I've got from PCM18.
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 29-09-2019 14:20
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With acceleration being weighted less, Koep should finally be able to take his first GT win!
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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roturn |
Posted on 29-09-2019 14:41
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@SotD/Croatia:
Depth is good, yes. But as leaders except De Bie miss quite a bit to the divisions best, top5 would be hugely surprising imo.
Goal was set to top10, expectations somewhere mid table indeed with luck inside top10.
But this is mainly comparing my 2019 team with 2018 teams as I am not having a good picture of 2019 teams yet.
@bbl:
I hope so.
At least he is getting yet another 3 chances for sure and should finally at least come closer than around 50-75 only.
Though when being of good support to deliver the others a top10, it might be okay already. |
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roturn |
Posted on 29-10-2019 15:13
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The season is slowly getting to the startline and the first month of the season sees two interesting races for the team, so the team members are coming back from the first set of training camps and should be in good form early on.
Badaling International
The Badaling International is the start of the PT calendar for quite some time now and while never being the most ideal race for the team, the rising focus on hilly races should see us having chances to get the best ever team result here.
Sean De Bie was 20th in 2016 and 7th in 2018 but while his skills remained, the team behind him became much stronger. The depth in the hills improved a lot and his team support should be excellent all year and in Badaling likely one of the best all season, so that we aim to reach the top5 in 2019.
The support here is no less than Zardini, van der Hugenhaben, Olivier, Keinath, Eiking and Thurau plus young talent Van Hooydonck. They could make an intesting hill train here.
Team debuts here for Nico Keinath, who is better on longer stage races but also expected to do well in some classics, Robin van der Hugenhaben, who mainly is additional support for GTs and De Bie`s races and also loaned in Odd Christian Eiking. who is the pure hill support.
Team | Goal | Sean De Bie | Top 5 | Edoardo Zardini | | Robin van der Hugenhaben | | Daan Olivier | | Nico Keinath | | Odd Christian Eiking | | Bjorn Thurau | | Nathan Van Hooydonck | |
Tour of Qatar
The Tour of Qatar likely is one of the most successful PT race in the team`s history and still we never had been super happy with the outcome. 4 Stage Wins, 2 Podiums surely sound quite well. But while Swift was pretty good for us in the recent years two things remain. The missed goal to win the race for us as in the earlier Vesuvio days and the weak performance in the last season.
This year saw big changes for our sprint department and we no longer can expect to win races like Qatar as Groenewegen is our main sprinter and unlikely to beat the very best.
Getting regular top10 sprint results in an expected high quality field is likely our goal and maybe a late top10 GC by our new TT machine Paillot, who is making his team debut here. He will be the only one actually as the rest of the team is built by former riders.
Team | Goal | Yoann Paillot | Top 10 | Dylan Groenewegen | | Tom Dumoulin | | Frederik Frison | | Lars Boom | | Kristian Sbaragli | | Phil Bauhaus | | Taco van der Hoorn | |
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roturn |
Posted on 25-11-2019 19:04
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To make it short. January was an excellent month for us. Badaling International, some kind of hate race for the team got the much wanted top5 with De Bie finishing in 4th but even better to see Olivier, Zardini and Keinath all in the top25 as well.
The Tour of Qatar then had a really bad start with all our team but Groenewegen being dropped making it a race the time trialists wouldn`t get anything from. At least Groenewegen showed his speed as 6th of the day. Unfortunately a good result was followed by a mediocre one and vice versa. In the end this resulted in a 6th/13th/3rd/11th/2nd for Groenewegen on the 5 sprint stages which had actually 2 podiums, which was more than expected. Due to the bonus seconds and the decent epilogue he finished in 2nd GC, which was much more than we came for. Paillot unfortunately couldn`t get as much as hoped with an 11th in the epilogue.
Tirreno - Adriatico
Tirreno - Adriatico will be the real start of Peter Velits` season, not counting the TTT event. Our new top stage racer is set to have a tough time obviously as the race is likely to see the division`s best climbers, which are a level above ours. The support he gets though should see several chances for us though and maybe we are lucky to find ourselves in different scenarios. Not only our second big new rider Keinath will be here after a stron Badaling showing, also Thomas Dekker as new luxury domestique is here alongside Koep.
Sprint wise also some hopes after Qatar as Groenewegen is here to fight for podiums and has strong support of Sbaragli and Bauhaus with him. The squad is completed by loanie Nicholas Dlamini, who is starting his season here.
Our goal is difficult. A top10 would be excellent but it`s hard really seeing the climbing competition. So a top20 is our only GC hope really but with the depth we might be able to grab a stage win or decent results here and there. In especially Groenewegen`s chances could be good.
Paris - Nice
Paris - Nice should be our best race in the triple clash. Sean De Bie will be here after his 4th in Badaling and usually he is performing better in stage races than in classics, which obviously makes us hope to reach the podium here. Not the most difficult stages and 11km time trials might be working out for him as well.
His support will be very well. Zardini and Van der Hugenhaben as we will see a lot this season alraedy worked well in China and should work well again.
Paillot, Boom and Dumoulin are all here mainly as support and free role but also with some hope for the time trials to hopefully do better than in Qatar.
Meanwhile season debut for Daniel Vesely with a team comeback after several years and hopefully can start his season as strong as Groenewegen. 2 chances for the sprinters depends on the startlist but hope is there to have a nice showing. His main support will be another season starter in Van der Poel, who is also in for nice couple of results and GCs as well in his second year for the team.
The team goal is the podium in the GC and a top10 basically on every single stage as the depth is good here.
Classique du Grand-Duche
The third race at the same time is the hilly classic in Luxembourg. As our focus is on Paris Nice again with De Bie, our hill co-leaders will have to show up here. Obviously the 2nd and 3rd best are with De Bie, but our hill depth this year is very good and so we send Daan Olivier and Odd Christian Eiking here as double lead with outside chances.
The support will be Thurau, Frison, Van Hooydonck, van der Hoorn and Sendeku, which are strong roleurs to help them on the first 50-80% of the race but surely one of them should go into the break and Thurau usually is a good bet for this but also the others have shown in the past how to perform well against the peloton.
The goal here is a top20 only but you never know. Having a good day and attacking at the right time might give us some little surprise.
Milano San Remo
A really annoying race here as you hardly know if a puncheur or a sprinter performs well. We tried both in the past but regularly went for the wrong decision and mainly teams with hill sprinters have an easy task of race selection here.
Our hope is on the sprinters once again as we send Groenewegen here. He is supported by Sbaragli, Boom, Van der Poel and Van Hooydonck. Obviously some of those could surprise themselves.
In case of a very hard stage maybe Keinath can follow an attack or Eiking/Thurau can have a mid stage break. Expectations here are low and a top10 would already be huge.
Pro Hallstatt Classic
The Pro Hallstatt Classic is a semi mountain/hill race on a very difficult profile. As De Bie is a pure puncheur, we decide to go for the allrounder tactic here and the team will be lead by multiple riders.
Daan Olivier, Nico Keinath, Peter Velits, Edoardo Zardini and Robin Van der Hugenhaben all have great skills on those kind of semi climbs. Hopes are high to reach the top5-10 with one of them and lots of depth points by the others.
The squad is completed by Dekker, Dlamini and Sendeku. |
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jandal7 |
Posted on 26-11-2019 03:22
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Good luck to Velits beginning his Aegon career!
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roturn |
Posted on 04-09-2020 15:01
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Season End - Sponsor Changes
The season is over and the HQ here apparently wasn`t kept updated a lot unfortunately.
To start with some important news regarding our team sponsors, co-sponsor Lavazza wasn`t very happy with how the season started and neither ended. With only two Italians left in the team in Zardini and Sbaragli and both being pure helpers, they felt the Italian side of the team came too short.
It already started couple years ago when the Italian mountain prospect Aru left the team and wasn`t replaced really. Young talents Ciccone and Carboni were brought in to potentially lead in the future but before this season they also left for getting more race days on loan, while the team itself could have done so themselves.
And also the addition of 3 Italian stagiares only helped for a short moment as none of those had any race day except Avenir. So the sponsor decided to leave and rumors had many countries on the radar joining Aegon, who have been much happier and still are as the Dutch core is much bigger with stars Groenewegen and Olivier being leaders alongside veterans Boom/Dekker as also Dumoulin, van der Poel, van der Hoorn, van der Hugenhaben.
In the end though the team decided to remain as Dutch Italian squad with Ciccone and Carboni coming back stronger now. And also the new sponsor brings in a nice dejavu as formely founded as Team Rothaus, the leaving coffee brand is being replaced by a new beer company in Peroni.
The Italian beer company will be very present on the new jersey with their Nastro Azzurro product.
Big thanks go out to The_Hoyle for that great jersey and future will give us some more National Jerseys as our riders will wear some of those.
Aegon - Peroni (2020)
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roturn |
Posted on 04-09-2020 16:24
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Following the team sponsor news and the presentation of the new jersey, it`s time to talk about our young prospects, the team`s stars of tomorrow. Five riders in total must be named when talking about stat gains, 3 of those still not at their limit.
Giulio Ciccone - 26 - 4.100 - 73,82 - Stage Racer
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | Sta | Res | Rec | Cob | Sp | Acc | Fig | DH | Prl | 2019 | 67 | 75 | 72 | 69 | 69 | 69 | 71 | 50 | 51 | 69 | 59 | 59 | 77 | 2020 | 67 | 77 | 73 | 71 | 70 | 70 | 73 | 50 | 51 | 69 | 59 | 59 | 79 |
Coming back from loan to Italian team Generali, he collected important experience being often part of Gesink`s mountain train as solid domestique.
2020 will be his first maxed season and while still being a domestique, his stats suggest to see him in a free role more regularly.
Taco van der Hoorn - 27 - 4.100 - 73,68 - Cobble Domestique
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | Sta | Res | Rec | Cob | Sp | Acc | Fig | DH | Prl | 2019 | 74 | 60 | 69 | 55 | 75 | 68 | 59 | 73 | 56 | 66 | 83 | 66 | 52 | 2020 | 75 | 60 | 70 | 55 | 76 | 69 | 60 | 75 | 56 | 66 | 84 | 66 | 52 |
Taco van der Hoorn had lot of helper tasks but also was one of our most active rider in breakaways in 2019. Exactly what he was supposed to do. Normally feeling most comfortable on the cobbles, the team lacked a clear leader there but also strength to fight against the best. This hopefully changes in future, so expect him to be a valuable domestique and still active on all other stages.
Nathan Van Hooydonck - 25 - 4.30 - 74,17 - Cobble Specialist
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | Sta | Res | Rec | Cob | Sp | Acc | Fig | DH | Prl | 2019 | 69 | 63 | 69 | 68 | 70 | 70 | 67 | 75 | 61 | 71 | 63 | 66 | 68 | 2020 | 71 | 63 | 70 | 70 | 73 | 72 | 68 | 78 | 61 | 72 | 64 | 67 | 70 | 2021 | 73 | 63 | 71 | 72 | 75 | 74 | 69 | 80 | 61 | 72 | 64 | 67 | 72 |
Van Hooydonck is our hope to fill the huge gap in the cobbles, which was empty for most of our existence. He already might show up in 2020 but his prime will only start in 2021 onwards being a rider capable to perform well in the cobbled classics and also not too bad on hills and against the clock. Surely a rider to watch in the future.
Giovanni Carboni - 25 - 4.08 - 74,41 - Climber
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | Sta | Res | Rec | Cob | Sp | Acc | Fig | DH | Prl | 2019 | 68 | 73 | 72 | 66 | 70 | 69 | 69 | 62 | 66 | 66 | 58 | 71 | 66 | 2020 | 69 | 76 | 75 | 67 | 71 | 71 | 71 | 62 | 66 | 68 | 61 | 72 | 67 | 2021 | 69 | 78 | 77 | 67 | 72 | 72 | 73 | 62 | 66 | 70 | 63 | 73 | 67 |
Giovanni Carboni is back from his loan at Moser - Sygic and developed quite a bit into a very valuable domestique in both mountains and hills. Yet ahead of his prime, he will search for more experience in 2020 to start having more free roles in 2021, where even a leadership in smaller races could become possible. His combination of mountain and hill climbing makes him a solid prospect.
Mathieu Van der Poel - 25 - 4.90 - 74,41 - Allrounder
| Fl | Mo | Hi | TT | Sta | Res | Rec | Cob | Sp | Acc | Fig | DH | Prl | 2019 | 72 | 68 | 72 | 69 | 75 | 75 | 72 | 72 | 71 | 74 | 74 | 78 | 73 | 2020 | 73 | 69 | 74 | 69 | 77 | 76 | 73 | 72 | 72 | 76 | 76 | 79 | 73 | 2021 | 73 | 70 | 76 | 69 | 78 | 77 | 74 | 72 | 72 | 77 | 77 | 79 | 73 |
Mathieu Van der Poel is a great allrounder, maybe missing his top discipline to win the biggest races though. His main strength is the mix of hill climbing, cobbles and a fast finish from a reduced peloton. But also on tougher climbs and against the clock he doesn`t lose that much. So being a regular guy in the top25-50 of any GC already with more to come in future. His prime starts next season as a tiny bit is still missing and while the exact last stat gain isn`t secured yet, it`s a possibility as well to go a full 70+ stat line with him.
Unfortunately when talking about talents going up in strength, it`s the opposite for some ageing riders and we were hit hard this year.
Lars Boom, leader of our team since the start lost another bit but as every year, might still have this last go in the Tour of Northern Europe...at least hoping for a last go again.
Other riders with huge decreases are Thomas Dekker, Peter Velits and Nico Keinath. For first it`s basically the end of leading a team, while the other two are still decent stage racers.
Van der Hugenhaben is another rider, who has lost his strength and no longer a top domestique. |
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quadsas |
Posted on 04-09-2020 16:35
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Dekker is looking extremely sad, rip
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redordead |
Posted on 04-09-2020 17:38
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I'm happy to see you found another sponsor to replace Lavazza, and an Italian one to boot. Although I do prefer the coffee over the beer
Nathan Van Hooydonck looks like an awesome rider as well
"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
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ivaneurope |
Posted on 04-09-2020 18:28
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Hmm, red text over a blue shirt? That's blasphemy
Spoiler If you didn't get the joke, allow me to explain - Kappa released the 2020-21 SSC Napoli home kit with red colored Lette logo (since Serie A banned the use of colored rectangular shapes for logos on kits) which sparked an outrage by Napoli fans, who wanted the Lette logo white
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 05-09-2020 05:07
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Great set of talents you have there. Should be good assets for many seasons
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