Shonak wrote:
Uh, what are you talking about Spanish Duo? Contador is massively underrated in this DB. Strongest climbing team lol, I wish.
Otherwise, good stuff.
Indeed, it really annoys me how underpowered Contador is in this DB. Obviously we've had upgrades and everything now, but he's about the 10th best stage racer in the world so a GT podium would be a welcome surprise. So yeah, we're probably the third best climbing team But I agree with nearly everything else in the preview.
The PCT review will only be one big preview, where I will go through every table of stats (similar to the WT statistics) and make one big review on how each team have done in the transfers etc.
After our big World Tour Preview, comes the PCT review and this time it will be in one big edition! This time I will also go full solo in my predictions, so it's only me you can complain to now
Like the World Tour the PCT will be very close and I think it will more closer than the WT and then again it's not that hard to see the big teams from the weaker ones, but to be clear I won't split them into different "camps" and I do this knowing each team has a strong area each.
I won't be writing much in this Preview and instead of that I'm gonna expain each table that follows further down and I will try to make this easy to read. I could do like I did with the WT, but I don't simply have the time and it's also very hard to hit the true state of things that way.
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The World Tour was cut down to 16 teams and this mean't that 4 teams would relegate down to the PCT and this was done, cause Wild Cards would suddenly be both more important, but also more interesting for the teams to follow their specific targets.
This means that getting into the right races is the most important thing for the PCT teams and this is not something the WT teams depend on, as they tend to have an overall squad, better than any PCT team that might participate in an race. The top teams are considered to be Lampre, AG2R, FDJ.fr and Champion System and these teams are well represented for PCT team's and this will definitely be the Top teams, with some exceptions of course.
But as said before I won't split them up in bad or good ones, as each team has an unique idea and though there might lie something different in the waters, which will determine which team's will be placed where.
Predicted Finish
Finish
Nat.
Team
AVG
1
AG2R
74,44
2
FDJ.fr
74,64
3
Lampre
73,84
4
Vacansoleil
74,56
5
Champion System
72,12
6
MTN
72,4
7
Androni
71,72
8
Team NetApp
72,8
9
IAM Cycling
73,2
10
Cofidis
72,88
11
Colombia
70,92
12
Bardiani
70,92
13
Caja Rural
70,28
14
CCC Polsat
72,08
15
Drapac Cycling
67,28
Best Average Team
Nat.
Team
Average
FDJ
74,64
Vacansoleil
74,56
AG2R
74,44
Lampre
73,84
IAM Cycling
73,2
Cofidis
72,88
Team NetApp
72,8
MTN
72,4
Champion System
72,12
CCC Polsat
72,08
Androni
71,72
Bardiani
70,92
Colombia
70,92
Caja Rural
70,28
Drapac Cycling
67,28
FDJ.fr got 17 riders on their team and this has made it easier for them to top this table, but then again I think they deserve it with their roster. Vacansoleil and Lampre got some size-able rosters and only a few leaders in general, but these are accompanied by some great support.
AG2R has managed to keep their stars and while disappointingly not topping the table, they still sit comfortably on this spot and will be hard to move from this spot. IAM got an old squad and therefore some stabile leaders to depend on.
Conclusion is that this show's why big teams like Columbia, Androni and Champion System will have a hard to competing against the relegated WT teams.
Age
Nat.
Team
Age
IAM Cycling
29,1
AG2R
29
Drapac Cycling
28,5
Champion System
28
Vacansoleil
27,9
Caja Rural
27,7
Androni
27,5
Cofidis
27
Lampre
27
CCC Polsat
26,7
MTN
26,3
Team NetApp
26,1
Bardiani
25,3
Colombia
25,2
FDJ
25,2
This table shows the difference between those team's, which got the best prospects for the future and who will have to focus more on it's future. Not surprisingly IAM and AG2R is here, but the big surprise is that Champion System is placed this high, yet their average stat's wasn't that high.
All the heavy lifters except for FDJ is in the top and conclusion is that Age doesn't have a huge meaning, but it's still interesting watching who is keeping the young stars.
Nationalities
Nat.
Team
Nationalities
Champion System
18
Team NetApp
14
Colombia
11
Vacansoleil
11
IAM Cycling
10
Lampre
10
MTN
10
Androni
9
CCC Polsat
9
AG2R
7
Cofidis
7
Bardiani
6
Caja Rural
6
Drapac Cycling
5
FDJ
1
Champion System only has this high a number, cause they've got to cover the whole continent of Asia and Netapp has always been a versatile squad, with no real main country other than Germany.
More weird is to note that Columbia has gone International and this is from a team having only 1 nationality! None of these teams than Netapp and Columbia crosses a line that says to HIGH and result wise this table is worthless.
Mountain
Nat.
Team
MO
AG2R
77
Lampre
75,8
Colombia
75,4
Vacansoleil
75,4
Androni
75,2
Caja Rural
75,2
Cofidis
75
FDJ
74,6
Team NetApp
73,8
IAM Cycling
73,6
CCC Polsat
73,4
MTN
73,4
Champion System
73,2
Bardiani
70,6
Drapac Cycling
66,6
AG2R is the ultimate Mountain squad and their adventure in the GT's are going to be very interesting, which also would seem to be enough for getting into the WT again. It's the same teams, which are in the top and there isn't much to note, as the team's have managed to keep their focus in this category
Cobblestones
Nat.
Team
CB
Vacansoleil
73,8
FDJ
73,4
IAM Cycling
73
AG2R
72
Cofidis
70,6
Lampre
70,2
Team NetApp
68,8
CCC Polsat
68,6
MTN
68,6
Androni
64,6
Bardiani
64
Champion System
64
Drapac Cycling
62,6
Caja Rural
61,8
Colombia
60,2
Many negative numbers in the PCT and nothing surprising as Cobbles usually is an luxury for these teams and Vacansoleil has dissapointed in not bringing an better squad here, but should be enough to gather some points on the others.
Time Trials
Nat.
Team
TT
Champion System
74,6
FDJ
73,4
Team NetApp
73,2
Lampre
73
Vacansoleil
73
AG2R
72,4
CCC Polsat
72,4
IAM Cycling
72
MTN
72
Cofidis
71,8
Androni
70,8
Bardiani
70,6
Colombia
69,8
Caja Rural
67,4
Drapac Cycling
67,2
Champion System got a strong setup for it's GT dreams and so does AG2R and FDJ! Only real surprise is MTN and CCC being placed so high and this is probably cause they want a strong leadout
Sprint
Nat.
Team
SP
FDJ
77
Bardiani
75,8
Vacansoleil
75,8
AG2R
74,4
Colombia
74,2
Lampre
74,2
Champion System
74
MTN
74
Team NetApp
74
IAM Cycling
73,6
CCC Polsat
73,4
Cofidis
73,2
Caja Rural
72,4
Androni
72
Drapac Cycling
70,4
Bardiani, FDJ and Vacansoleil are heavy lifters here and for Bardiani and FDJ this is their main category. This is the category where every team have to get good characters and while not being as big a category as the hills in the PCT, it's still important to have a strong squad here.
Hills
AG2R
76,4
Androni
76
Lampre
76
Colombia
75
Champion System
74,8
FDJ
74,8
Vacansoleil
74,8
Caja Rural
74,6
Team NetApp
74,2
MTN
74
Cofidis
73,8
IAM Cycling
73,8
Bardiani
73,6
CCC Polsat
72,6
Drapac Cycling
69,6
The category that separates the big teams from the smaller ones, but this year it's very close and being the biggest category for the PCT teams, this is the category aside from Mountains importantance for the GT's, this category covers the parts where the teams gather the frequent points
Well let's run through this in table order then...
Spoiler
Predicted Finish: I'll agree with 2nd place because Betancur is a potential Monument winner and should have been brought up by any WT team.
AVG: Aided by the small squad but this i why i keep saying smaal doesn't mean bad. It just means we are lean and pound for pound pack the biggest punch.
Age: FDJ has always been about developing french youth and i stick to that. Only one rider over 30 btw, and Jauregui is one of the youngest at 19. Plenty of free upgrades mwahaha
Nationalities: I better get a f*cking huge bonus for this!
Mountain: We might not have many climbers but the one's we've got are not bad. Elissonde is good and Geniez and Fedrigo constantly over-perform themselves and limit losses to other teams
Cobbles: High average backed up by Ladagnous and Offred, both are capable and have Top10'd the big classics. If they can repeat last season that is a huge boost over other PCT teams.
TT: Roy and Le Bon are good time trialists. They use their skills to enhance their other abilities rather than relying on the TT. Points scoring capable is morethan many other teams could hope.
Sprint: Demare-Bouhanni-Lumiere. Big trio if very different sprinters. Demare the big strong man. Bouhanni the nippy fast finisher. Lumiere the short range powerhouse. Between then many many many points. Bardini who?
Hills: Not the best but in Vichot we have a decent rider. He's also a quick finisher, nice boost. Though our best bet here is in developing Gougeard and Jauregui (Gougeard to ~80 in two seasons is the goal!)
I think it would have been nice to have a full PCT preview in the same fashion as the WT was done. Though this was a nice read it felt kind of rushed out and rather superficial (very rushed and superficial when compared to the WT previews).
For three people and the amount of time this was in planning/production i'm a bit dissapointed in the overall quality, especially when it comes to the PCT which very much feels like an after-thought.
Brewers wins the award for best Preview! Sorry guys
Ps. I know you're not the only one that spells it wrong. But it still baffles me greatly how many people still can't spell it correctly given how many times it's written down.
Our previews seem to match mostly. If AG2R and FDJ don't promote, I'll be quite surprised. Pressure's on them.
Manager of Bunzl - Centrica
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Many negative numbers in the PCT and nothing surprising as Cobbles usually is an luxury for these teams and Vacansoleil has dissapointed in not bringing an better squad here.
It's a luxury, but you are disappointed by Vaconsoleil being the best?? I sold Flecha to afford some climbers (didn't work out it the end through a long stupid story) but I got a replacement for him, frankly, I don't see the problem though. (no offense intended).
Apart from that I think Vaconsoleil is slightly underrated in the overall positions (Brewers expected first/third depending) but, you are entitled to your own opinion.
Apart from me being slightly annoyed at your opinion of my squad, this is pretty good and was enjoyable to read.
That's fair enough really, it was never going to be as big as the WT preview.
So, Drapac are almost certain to finish last of these teams, but until we can do a proper roster cleanout at the end of the season it was always going to be this way. UHC, Topsport and Bretagne will likely beat us in the race for 15th place by the looks of it, but if some luck goes our way it's not impossible.
To be honest rather than produce lots of inconsequential tables - which considering the pct teams have to compete against pt teams most of the time are pointless. It would have been nice to have a paragraph or two on every team.
I mean Caja were only mentioned in the tables where I can see we are a decent enough hills mountain team.
Probably the biggest factor in the PCT will be people getting planners in properly. Lampre strike me as an example that could have a very middling season because if this. Another factor is which Protour teams turn up where.
Anyway all thanks for the work here, enjoyed the pt ones and an attempt to rank the continental ranks is nice too!
sgdanny wrote:
Netapp has always been a versatile squad, with no real main country other than Germany.
Uhm, okay...
Honestly, this PCT review should have been called Preview of Teams got relegated and will kick ass in CT. I appreciate people doing extra work for EPIC, which makes this in terms of its narration such a great story game, but this part of the preview has been a major letdown to read. Bunch of inconsequential tables like smowz said. You don't even interpret the hills tables, which according to you, is the most important for PCT teams.
Thanks for the effort, but you should have sticked with the old model, even if it's just a three lines per team.
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sgdanny wrote:
Netapp has always been a versatile squad, with no real main country other than Germany.
Uhm, okay...
Honestly, this PCT review should have been called Preview of Teams got relegated and will kick ass in CT. I appreciate people doing extra work for EPIC, which makes this in terms of its narration such a great story game, but this part of the preview has been a major letdown to read. Bunch of inconsequential tables like smowz said. You don't even interpret the hills tables, which according to you, is the most important for PCT teams.
Thanks for the effort, but you should have sticked with the old model, even if it's just a three lines per team.
To have more people bitch about the scandalous inaccuracy on their team?
I think these previews were a bad idea from the start, don't expect another one next year.
Previews are fun, and I really enjoyed the WT part, I really did. But I can imagine the CT teams feeling a bit left out now after the luxury preview for WT teams.
Ollfardh wrote:
Previews are fun, and I really enjoyed the WT part, I really did. But I can imagine the CT teams feeling a bit left out now after the luxury preview for WT teams.
Well we can't have that ? So I've changed my mind and even though I have enough work on my hands with various projects for the site, I will make a preview in 3 parts starting tomorrow