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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 26-06-2012 19:44
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Some stats of important riders
Andy Schleck
Fabio Duarte
Mark Cavendish
Fabian Cancellara
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-06-2012 20:07
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Wow these declines are very extreme. Spartacus would have 71 TT at 60.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 26-06-2012 22:00
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So sad to see that in 2021 we won't have all these great riders  |
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-06-2012 22:19
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Well what do you expect?
That they're all Horners at age 40?
I think it's pretty realistic. We see this huge declines in real life as well |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 26-06-2012 22:23
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ruben wrote:
Well what do you expect?
That they're all Horners at age 40?
I think it's pretty realistic. We see this huge declines in real life as well
Yes, the declines of Schleck and Cavendish f.e. are realistic, however Boonen and Cancellara, arguably the two best cobbled riders of their generation (to exclude SP, TT etc) would hardly be 68 and 65 COB, even at 40 years old imo.
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| ruben |
Posted on 26-06-2012 22:32
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Hmm, maybe. I don't know.
You could add more variables for declines in different specialisations. But as Cyanide made the game they made the decline of all stats equal.
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| Mr_Monk |
Posted on 26-06-2012 22:42
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How come Pinot or Sicard haven't won a grand tour?
Pinot has the only 85 mountain stat and Sicard is the only top climber with a 80+ TT stat |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-06-2012 09:48
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Boonen and Cancellara would be a bit better I agree.
It's like Armstrong would still be in the lower 70s climbing possibly. |
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| RHW |
Posted on 27-06-2012 12:57
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The stats decline works pretty well IMO. How many pros ride until their 40? |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-06-2012 13:24
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| HuDCC |
Posted on 28-06-2012 15:48
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Mr_Monk wrote:
How come Pinot or Sicard haven't won a grand tour?
Pinot has the only 85 mountain stat and Sicard is the only top climber with a 80+ TT stat
I think Pinot has too low stamina, resistance and recovery to win GT 
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| Abelbaba |
Posted on 28-06-2012 16:28
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it is a shame to see 'spartacus' like this 
and how could those colombians win without proper TT skill...  |
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| MitchNL |
Posted on 28-06-2012 16:29
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Did anyone else notice that there are two guys who have the same name (Laurent Matias) and the same TT stat (82)?
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| Abelbaba |
Posted on 28-06-2012 16:36
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yea i had that once in my career,
i contracted a scouted rider but a other team sposord him,
we both ended up with exactly the same rider...  |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 28-06-2012 19:57
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2022
Santos Tour Down Under: Gaetan Bille (BEL)
Paris-Nice: Matihas Mallard (FRA)
Tirreno-Adriatico: Peter Sagan (SVK)
Milan-Sanremo: Marcel Valade (FRA)
Vulta Catalunya: Cyril Gautier (FRA)
Gent-Wevelgem: Marko Kump (SLO)
Ronde van Vlaanderen: Jan Ghyselinck (BEL)
Vuelta... Pais Vasco: Józef Poplawski (POL
Paris-Roubaix: Fabio Felline (ITA)
Amstel Gold Race: Mathias Mallard (FRA)
La Fleche Wallonie: Sam Bewley (NZ)
Liege-Bastogne-Liege: Jérôme Baugnies (FRA)
Tour du Romandie: Peter Sagan (SVK)
Dauphine: Romain Sicard (FRA)
Tour du Suisse: Nairo Quintana (COL)
San Sebastian: Nairo Quintana (COL)
Tour du Pologne: Peter Sagan (SVK)
Eneco Tour: Jan Ghyselinck (BEL)
Vattenfall: Hugo Glück (GER)
GP Quest France-Plouay: Tosh van der Sande (BEL)
GP Quebec: Maksim Fedotov (RUS)
GP Montreal: Björn Thurau (GER)
Tour de Beijing: Luis Leon Sanchez (SPA)
Giro di Lombardia: Thibaut Pinot (FRA)
Giro di Italia:
- GC: Juan Pablo Balencia (ESP)
- Point: Marcel Vallade (FRA)
- Kom: Juan Pablo Balencia (ESP)
- Youth: Gabrielle Cinzia (ITA)
Tour de France:
- GC: Nairo Quintana (COL)
- Point: Hugo Glück (GER)
- KoM: W. Popon (FRA)
- Youth: A. Danesi (ITA)
Vuelta A Espana:
- GC: Cesare Tomasi (ITA)
- Point: Cesare Tomasi (ITA)
- KoM: Caytano Sarmiento (COL)
- Youth: Gabrielle Cinzia (ITA)
WC ITT: Artem Overchin (RUS)
WC RR: Cesare Tomasi (ITA)
Trivia: Two nations stood out as true superpowers of cycling this season. Both France and Italy enjoyed incredible success with French riders taking their fair share of victories early on in the spring and Italy showing their colors in the Grand Tours.
The two Italians Cesare Tomasi and Gabrielle Cinzia gave us some spectacular racing in both the Giro and Vuelta which led to Cinzia winning the Youth Jersey in both races and Tomasi taking the overall win in Spain. Tomasi also won the youth jersey in the Vuelta back in 2020, it will be interesting to see if Cinzia can follow in his foot steps. Of course, it wouldn't be the same without a Colombian winning atleast one of the GTs; Nairo Quintana took his 2nd Tour-win in a row.
As we know, the world is not comprised entirely of young people, there are some seniors out there aswell. Tyler Farrar, who has dominated the sprints in the Giro for the last 10 years, has decided to retire, a desicion which few were surprised by seeing as how he struggled to even get a top 5 this year. Another "old" rider who definately is not retiring any time soon is the Spaniard Luis Leon Sanchez. After not getting a major win for several years he shocked everyone by winning the Tour of Beijing at the age of 38.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 28-06-2012 19:59
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Tomasi World Champ and Vuelta winner, very nice |
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 28-06-2012 20:23
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2023
Spoiler Santos Tour Down Under: Luigi Croce (ITA)
Paris-Nice: Johan Le Bon (FRA)
Tirreno-Adriatico: Nairo Quintana (COL)
Milan-Sanremo: Hugo Glück (GER)
Vulta Catalunya: Gaspare Bruno (ITA)
Gent-Wevelgem: Peter Sagan (SVK)
Ronde van Vlaanderen: Andreas Peeters (BEL)
Vuelta... Pais Vasco: Guillaume Lopez (FRA)
Paris-Roubaix: Andriy Turchin (UKR)
Amstel Gold Race: Guillaume Lopez (FRA)
La Fleche Wallonie: Arend Hulslander (NED)
Liege-Bastogne-Liege: Joez Poplawski (POL)
Tour du Romandie: Arnold Girardot (FRA)
Dauphine: Louc Collignon (FRA)
Tour du Suisse: Joost Dieter (NED)
San Sebastian: Bastian Krüger (GER)
Tour du Pologne: Sam Bewley (NZ)
Eneco Tour: Sebastian Lander (DEN)
Vattenfall: Adam Klaasen (NED)
GP Quest France-Plouay: Cesare Tomasi (ITA)
GP Quebec: Arno Roskamp (NED)
GP Montreal: Mitchell Pryce (NZ)
Tour de Beijing: Pavel Soronkin (KGZ)
Giro di Lombardia: Cesare Tomasi (ITA)
Giro di Italia:
- GC: Nairo Quintana (COL)
- Point: Nairo Quintana (COL)
- Kom: Thomas Faiers (GBR)
- Youth: Gabrielle Cinzia (ITA)
Tour de France:
- GC: Nairo Quintana (COL)
- Point: Hugo Glück (GER)
- KoM: Tosh van der Sande (BEL)
- Youth: Mason Matthews (USA)
Vuelta A Espana:
- GC: Juan Carlos del Bosque (ESP)
- Point: Juan Carlos del Bosque (ESP)
- KoM: Pablo Lechuga (ESP)
- Youth: Gabrielle Cinzia (ITA)
WC ITT: Jack Bobridge (AUS)
WC RR: Larell Rockmore (USA)
Trivia: For Colombia the 2023-season is one of mixed feelings. In the same season that Nairo Quintana wins his 3rd Tour de France in a row and also takes the overall GC in the Giro, legendary climber Fabio Duarte announced his retirement. Former WC ITT-champion Tony Martin also said this season season would be his last, after not even being on the German team in the World Championships.
Some new names came forward and got some impressive wins. Luigi Croce, Gaspare Bruno and Larell Rockmore were responcible for just some of the major surprises we saw, the biggest one might be Larell Rockmore being crowned the World Champion.
It will also be a season to remember for the Dutchman Arend Hulslander who has attacked his way into the history books by taking a stage win in all three Grand Tours in the same season.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 28-06-2012 20:37
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Wins in the Giro, Tour and Vuelta.
| SPA | FRA | COL | NED | LUX | CAN | BLE | CZE | ITA | AUS | | GIRO | 3 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | | TOUR | 3 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | VUELTA | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Total | 10 | 1 | 10 | 2 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-06-2012 21:51
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Jan Ghyselinck is pretty good. |
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| HuDCC |
Posted on 29-06-2012 09:26
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Pinot still without GT win...how he looks now? 
Thank you Andy for everything!
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