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| trekbmc |
Posted on 27-01-2015 19:41
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Still doesn't work, but I'll use it anyway.
"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
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| Bikex |
Posted on 29-01-2015 12:16
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Okay the final db is finally there after the used research: https://www.mediafire.com/?8ipsxiw8a6...iw8a6csisa
Also please don't forget to send in your race selections. It is really not hard to complete that task. Teams that didn't send in theirs are in the spoiler.
Spoiler | 1 | Vegeta Cycling Team | WT | | 6 | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | WT | | 7 | Liberty Seguros - Würth | WT | | 12 | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | WT | | 13 | LA Aluminios - Antarte | WT | | 16 | Celesio Pro Cycling | WT | | 18 | Avia - Orlen Oil | WT | | 24 | Gazprom Cycling Team | WT | | 27 | Ecopetrol - Vivo | WT | | 29 | Fiskars Cycling | WT | | 32 | Team Cymru Wales | CT | | 35 | Team Istanbul Cycling | CT | | 36 | Peugeot Cycling Team | CT | | 37 | ExxonMobil - Geberit | CT | | 38 | Petronas - HTC Pro Cycling Team | CT | | 40 | Rapha - Rouleur Pro Cycling | CT | | 41 | Geox - Kalev Cycling Project | CT | | 42 | Team Parmalat - HTC | CT | | 43 | TVM - Sanyo | CT | | 44 | Eurosport - Pepsi | CT | | 46 | Telecom Namibia Cycling Team | CT | | 47 | Bulgaria Air | CT | | 48 | Air Baltic - Rietumu Racing | CT | | 201 | Podravka Development Team | U23 | | 206 | Reizen Waes - Pinkpop Development Team | U23 | | 207 | La Fundación | U23 | | 213 | FC Porto U23 | U23 | | 215 | Thule Development | U23 | | 216 | Celesio Pro Cycling Development Team | U23 | | 218 | Avia Academy - The Hordes of the East | U23 | | 224 | Lukoil Development Team | U23 | | 227 | SambaTech - Road to Rio | U23 | | 229 | SAS | U23 | | 235 | Istanbul Development Team | U23 | | 238 | Petronas - HTC Development Team | U23 |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 29-01-2015 16:26
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Okay the first GT route has been unveiled.
The Giro will have its Grande Partenza in Croatia and then move downwards the boot all the way to Sicily and finally turn north again towards the Alpes with a stage in Austria.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 29-01-2015 19:25
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Looks like a rather easy Giro route this time around. At least I don't see a real killer stage with multiple mountain passes especially, the ride up to Etna should be fun though.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Smowz |
Posted on 29-01-2015 20:03
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Six mountain top finishes is hardly easy - but certainly compared to most story games a decent attempt at a balanced tour.
Still comfortably one for the climbers though.
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| The Rider |
Posted on 29-01-2015 20:40
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Agree with Smowz here. Maybe not the most mountainous, but it is still very mountainous. That stage 20 could well see gaps of 3+ between the stage winner (GC winner) and second/third place. Still a Giro where, I'd like to think, it is feasible for Prorace to finish on the podium.
- Hoping, eventually, we will see a really unique ICL GT, riddled with cobbles as seen in the Tour of the Chosen days.
Bikex - There are bound to be some people who won't fill in the selection form, I think it would be best to assign them random races. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-01-2015 21:15
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I'm a bit disapoointed about the route to be honest (but crap there is the Etna boyz!!!), too few tough finishes. But isn't part of the route toto40's giro? I can remember part of the stages, I may be mistaken though. If so: why the fuck there is not his Fauniera, Finestre etc. stage? 
That was one of the best made stages I've ever seen.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 29-01-2015 21:19
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Will try to get my stuff done on saturday!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 30-01-2015 14:30
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Same here, will be done soon. Just trying to finalise my EPIC startlists at the same time, which leads to a bit of confusion on deadlines 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 30-01-2015 18:25
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After yesterday the Giro presented its route, today the officials of the Tour unveiled theirs. Unlike with the Giro this Tour is pretty hard. After the Grand Depart in Brugge the Tour will stay all the time in France. Interesting could the team time trial at the beginning of the third week turn out.
Also a reminder to those who didn't send that in yet, please send in your race selections until tomorrow! |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 30-01-2015 18:32
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Unsure about a 3rd week TTT. Two 200km MO stages will eliminate riders and a you could find yourself eliminate from the GC through no fault of your own... Apart from that it looks like a nice route, relateively balanced. Certainly a climbers race.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 30-01-2015 19:31
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Unsure about a 3rd week TTT. Two 200km MO stages will eliminate riders and a you could find yourself eliminate from the GC through no fault of your own... Apart from that it looks like a nice route, relateively balanced. Certainly a climbers race.
That TTT is the only disappointing part of that route. I totally love the rest, tough but still quite a Tour-ish route with a bit more climbs than irl (unlike the Giro  ). Then there are the cobbles... 
Oh btw, gonna send the race selection either later this evening (unlikely) or tomorrow more likely 
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| Smowz |
Posted on 30-01-2015 20:51
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Yeah the TTT in the third week is crappy - I know some like the fact that it forces teams to try and pick a team with endurance - but you can lose guys to crashes in pcm before this, that would be a really annoying way to lose a tour. That said TTTs rarely have that big a gaps.
Other than that like the hills and cobbles - some interesting mountain stages MTT on stage 20 is pointless - why do these things have to be at the end of the race like that. Better for me if it was another Flat ITT.
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| The Rider |
Posted on 30-01-2015 21:33
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I like the idea of a TTT in the third week, isn't as if it is in every GT. Great not to conform to the same route plan every year.
Some more things to consider when planning I guess. |
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| Cyclotron |
Posted on 31-01-2015 11:54
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Giro and tour routes are looking good - hard but not overly unbalanced. The TTT in the third week could get interesting. Since Giro and tour already have TTTs now, I would prefer to have a Vuelta without one. But I'm probably biased here.
Apropos I used my stat research pack on Quintana, raising his mountain stat from 81 to 82 and his hill from 78 to 79. So the tour could get exciting with Froome and Quintana being on the same level.
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| Silvio Herklotz |
Posted on 31-01-2015 20:30
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I don't really like the Tour, because of two big problems.
1) Enough people complained about the TTT in the third week which could turn out unfair.
2) The cobbled stage could turn out to f*ck up the GC. Becaus PCM AI will probably make the teams work for their cobbles leader, so GC riders could lose much, much time (and maybe not the strongest stage racers will be considered as leaders then by the AI).
I beg you to just put a mountain stage before those cobbles, so that there are already some gaps created. They don't have to be big, but just that AI won't screw up. (I just don't believe that stage 2 will create any gaps for GC favourites.)
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| The Rider |
Posted on 31-01-2015 21:07
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Only one race to be revealed, the planning, then we can get on to the new season. Hoping to get a few early wins to see how the team look in the new kit. Almost there now Bikex, well done. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 01-02-2015 20:27
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Last presentation: Vuelta
It is obvious that it was all about money when the Vuelta organisateurs decided where the 2015 Vuelta would start, as it kicks of with three sprint stages in distant Quatar. Besides that the first days are all for the sprinters with 6 of the first 9 stages being flat. After returning to the Iberian Peninsula, the peloton will make a short move to the South part of Spain, while the rest will be in the North. As last year this Grand Tour gives the best opportunities for the Puncheurs. With the majority of the stages being hilly. In contrast to previous editions this years Vuelta won't finish in Madrid, but stay right in the North with the last stage ending in Vitoria-Gasteiz, the capital of Basque country.
A short comparison between this years Grand Tours:
| Giro | Tour | Vuelta |  | 9 | 7 | 7 |  | 3 | 4 | 8 |  | 7 | 7 | 5 |  | 1 | 2 | 1 |  | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Length | 3373,2 | 3215,9 | 3524,8 |
Can someone with PCM 14 please upload the xml file for the Giro for me please?
Race Planners will come tomorrow. |
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 01-02-2015 20:53
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I like that Vuelta for Costa.
That stage 21 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 01-02-2015 21:20
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Not a great year for Time Trialists then. Nice Vuelta route, balances off well against the Giro and TDF. Would still like to see that 3rd week TTT made ITT, moved to 1st week or just scrapped.
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