I forgot, Aramendia showed the last year in Vuelta a España that he is very fighter.
Currently in the game, I remember he is 61, maybe better 74/75 for example?
I've checked a few Dutch CT stat, and I came to the following conclusions.
Dylan Van Baarle(RB3) should get a boost in his stats.
TT: 67-> 69 PRL 67-> 70. SP 66-> 70 FL 65-> 68 COB 64 -> 67. HI 61 -> 66. + better backup stats (Just proposal, can be changed as much as you like )
He managed to beat better TTists than him multiple times last season.
He for example won the Olympia Tour GC, in front of guys like Kusnetzsov and Dennis. (Dennis got 72HI, 71TT in the DB)
In the same Olympia Tour, he won the prologue, and got 2nd in a (little bit) longer TT, just behind Dennis.
Van Baarle also impressed in the 'Mont et Chateux' TT, where he won, ahead of Wellens(70TT), and left guys like Jungels(73TT) and Brown(71TT) about half a minute(Van Baarle used 12 minutes) behind.
In the Normandië prologue, he got 6th, but leaving guys like Craddock and Le Bon behind.
He did also impress in the Poitou TT. He finished 13th, but that's in front of Zubeldia, Roux, Lemoine.
He did even better in the last stage of Poitou. It's an (uphill I think if I look at the results) sprint, Ventoso won, and he got 9th. It's says enough if I tell you who was 10th, it was Seb. Chavanel. Of course he let guys like Roy, Taaramaë behind him, since they're not sprinters(Although Roy got an higher SP. value than Van Baarle)
That his sprint value should be higher is also proven by his win at Arno Wallaard, finishing with a big gap on guys like Schets and Kreder.
Another point is his COB value. It shouldn't get too high, but maybe he deserves 67 like... He got 4th at Zelik - Galmaarden, finishing in the front group, with behind him Bagdonas. Not sure how the race went though
Another rider, where there was a discussion about earlier, but not yet fixed(I think) is Yoeri Havik.
Problem is though that you forgot to add him to the DB(already mentioned, and you guys know that I guess), so I don't know if you have changed his stats.
But right, about his stats. His flat stat was 59. That is way too low for him, he deserves about 68 I think(although it's hard to give someone a correct flat stat). His sprinting stat(used to be 70) should maybe get a bit up too. 2 days ago, he got 9th at Trofeo de Mallorca, that is in front of a lot of good sprinters(Matthews, Bos, Radochla, Gène). He did the same yesterday in Migjorn, getting 9th, with Swift in 10th(Where Swift got third in Palma, so nothing wrong with Swift's form).
Last year, Havik did some other good things on the road, like winning a Normandië stage(Leaving guys like McEvoy and Kreder behind), 13th at Handzame(outsprinting Schets, Keough). He also got 6th in Trofeo Migjorn in 2012. The startlist was a bit weaker than this year, but still, outsprinted Rojas, Benatti.
So summary: Flat should go up drastically, and sprint should go up a few points(72 seems fair to me)
Next one: Ivar Slik
He can both TT and sprint, and his stats say so, but the stats say that he isn't impressive in both of them.
Slik won the Istrian Spring thropy prologue(for example in front of Arndt), and for example lead(I think he did, since he was the best TT from the team) Rabo Conti Team to a second place at the TTT in Tour of China.
But the main point is sprinting.
He outsprinted the peloton for the win in 'Ronde van Midden Nederland'(guys like Radochla participated), got second in 'Monts et Chateux' GC, behind Jungels, which isn't a shame since he's a big talent.
Slik also podiumed at an other Tour de China stage. In the end, he got 5th in the GC of 'Tour de China'.
So Ivar's TT stat should be increased, especially prologue one(for example prologue +2/3, TT +1. His sprint stat should be increased to 70(it's now 67). That doesn't make him a great sprinter, but I think he's worth it.
Last guy: Van der Lijke
His flat stat should be higher. He hasn't got any problems with keeping up on flat (one-day) races. He's even a good leadout/last men before leadout. He finished 19th at Rupchen and 20th at Beverbeek, which means that he has got a decent sprint(used for leading out) and doesn't have any problems on the flat. His achievements in Tour of China I and II confirm that: He finished in the Top 20 in almost every stage, while most of the stages are flat
Last thing is his hill ability. It's currently 68, which seems about fair, but he proved in Tour de Gironde(GC win ahead of R. Van Rensburg) and Bretagne that he deserve about 69/70. FL: 62 -> about 67/68
SP: 60 -> about 65-67
HI: 68-> 69/70
Edit: Just noticed another thing. Jasper Bovenhuis is way underrated in TT(Especially PRL) and a little bit in MO.
He had a nice PRL in Normandië(Second). In Boucles de La Mayenne, he got 3rd in the prologue(in front of Lemoine and Dumoulin). He also got 3rd in one of the Olympia Tour PRL's. and 10th in Ronde van Overijssel.
I would say: 65TT, 67PRL.
And about MO: He got 17th in Tour de L'ain(Man, Rabobank CT was really succesfull there for a CT team). Cataldo was 18th and Majka 19th.
I think he deserves a 66-> 68 MO
Also noticed that I might have been a bit too generous with Van Baarle, but I'm still fully behind the other stat changes I said about the other riders, and I still think that Van Baarle does need better stats than his current ones
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Hope this all was useful. I'm maybe a little bit biased, but I think I'm not unrealistic. I'm not that much biased though, since I don't know those riders really good, and I don't have a favourite rider among those.
I only used facts for the stats too Edited by Jesleyh on 05-02-2013 16:56
I've checked the Austrians and here are my results.
Harald Starzengruber has already retired but if you want to keep him in the db then his Stats should generally be lowered.
Stefan Rucker has also too high Stats in General. I would lower his SP -> 67/68, ACC ->69 HI -> 66
Riccardo Zoidl needs better Stats in General. He won Austrians National Racing League (Tchibo Cup), finished 16th on Kitzbühler Horn or 14th on Großglockner Stage at Tour of Austria. (so 59 is way too low in MO) His best achievment was his 14th place at TT World Championships, he won Austrian TT Championship and finished 3rd in Austrian Mountain Championship Race. (behind Vrecer and Benetseder)
FL -> 67/68, MO -> 66/67, TT -> 71, PR -> 69, SPR -> 67, ACC -> 70 (quite strong at hilly finishes) HI -> 69, maybe also slightly better secondary Stats
Christoph Sokoll is not a sprinter at all. So he needs lowered SP, ACC and FL Stats and slightly better MO Stats, but not much because he is just a mediocre rider at best.
SP -> 65, ACC -> 66, FL -> 65, MO -> 63
Michael Pichler is now a racing endurance races like Race Around Austria and tries to qualify for RAAM. So he also retired from road racing.
Thanks for the feedback, Jesleyh and ppanther. That's perfect, with exact description of what should be changed and why It's also great that you suggested riders that should be worse than currently, ppanther, because most times the suggestions are only riders that should be better but if we keep increasing and increasing stats, that's not very good for the overall stats matrix of the DB
No problem
I can look at some more guys, also ones that deserve less skills, but since most people I look after are young, it's not easy to estimate if they deserve lower skills than they have, especially since most young guys actually developed since the last CT stats update instead of the opposite (that makes sense I think )
But I will look at a few more guys soon if you want
Additional some guys that should be lowered (mostly riders who were successful in the past but didn't show much in the last 2 or 3 years):
Markus Fothen
Ludovic Turpin
Michael Stevenson
Johnnie Walker
Dmitri Champion
Eric Baumann
Gregorio Ladino
Björn Schröder
Mauricio Ardila
Walter Pedraza
Tomas Vaitkus
Clement Lhotellerie
Gorik Gardeyn
Robert Radosz
Given he even posted stage 4 results in the Cycling forum, I'm more than sure that Alakagom is observing the results and probably thinking in stats changes
Also, Kruijswijk needs a huge boost in REC.
In all his good GT's his best week was by far the last week. He even went from barely top 30 (1st week Giro) to top 5 climbers (last week Giro) in 2011 for instance... All due to recuperation.
Hans Dekkers
Should've been added to Ppanthers list.
Was free agent last year(still is), and didn't even do anything decent in 2011(except one Etoile Besseges Top 3 though). Should have lowered stats, maybe SP 74 -> 69, along with Acc etc.
Floris Goesinnen
Not really have much to add, but he should have a bit better TT. He's not really good in TT, but did do good at Langkawi TT, so maybe TT+PRL(The Langkawi TT was 20km long, so can't choose just one of them) 61 -> 65.
Dylan Groenewegen
He's more talented than his stats suggest. He got a lot of Low 60's/high 50's, but deserves more.
He's also a sprinter, and not a fighter. His results confirm that. He had a 3rd place in Munsterland Giro(Kittel won that race, he finished in front of a lot of good sprinters), a 9th place in Dutch Food Valley(Bos won it), Omloop Houtland(Kittel won), and some nice results at Olympia Tour, Baltic Tour and Putte - Kapelle. He's way underrated in sprint. He's not really a fighter though. He got a lot of CQ points for Cycling Team de Rijke last year(and even got a few this year already) FL 66->70 SP 60-> 70 ACC 64->71 Fighter 70->65. And his other stats should all go +3 or something, especially his RES and REC. His backup stats are simply too low.
Maarten de Jonge
Didn't really have good results last years. His stats doesn't suggest that, but his best results were Top 10s in some Serbian and Romanian races. It were all sprint stages though, so I think he's more of a sprinter HI 66-> 61 SP 64-> 66 Backup stats a bit lower maybe.
Tom Vermeer
Should get a boost in his stats. Done good last year, especially in hilly races. maybe a bit better in TTs too, after Tour of China(4th place in TT).
His hilly achievements include an 11th place at the Dutch RR NC, and being very consistent in Tour of Taiwan(with also some mountain-like finishes, so that's why his MO should go up too). His flat stat should go up too. Can't find a flat stage where he lost much time or something. Even finished most of his one-day races in Top 30. REC should get up too, he has been very consistent in China and Taiwan, and didn't get weaker in later stages.
If you look at the CQ ranking, he should be the best guy of the team by far. FL 62 -> 65. MO 63-> 67 HI 64-> 69 TT 62-> 65 PRL 63-> 66. REC 61-> 66. Other stats, like RES maybe a bit up.
Rens Te Stroet
His stats suggest that he's one of the best guys of the team(Jo Piels). He isn't at all though. Only got 5 CQ ranking points, and that was at Omloop der Kempen, where there were no really good sprinters available, and he got 9th. Just had a really bad season. SP 67 -> 64 ACC 65 -> 63. FL 65-> 63.
Jasper Hamelink
Another underrated guy guy. Got a good rating in TT, but could've been a bit higher maybe(Got 8th in european U23 TT championship for example).
Maybe more hill and flat abilities would be deserved too. He got 11th in the Circuit Franco-Belge GC, and did nice things in OberösterreicherRundfahrt, Czech Cycling Tour, Olympia Tour etc. Wasn't that great on the flat, but I don't think there is a reason to lower FL+ Spr. They're fine this way.
TT 68-> 70 PRL 67-> 68/69 or something. HI 62 -> 67 MO 53-> 58.
Ronan van Zandbeek
Seems a beast on the flat. Best thing that he did is getting in the break, guiding the break to the finish, riding/sprinting from the break, and grabbing a solo-win on Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen.
He did more things like that, but didn't participate in the sprint. He proved that he got a nice sprint though, especially in Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen. He doesn't participate in bunch sprints though, he's a pure fighter. Maybe his cobbled ability could go slightly up too, he was great at Jef Scherens FL 70 -> 72. SP 64-> 66. COB 67 -> 68/69. FTR 66 -> 75
This website its very useful for see many results for some cyclist
Don't forget that I wasn't talking about the smallest races on the calendar. Pologne is WT and Glava Norway is 2.HC.
Of course he also got more good races, but only named the biggest ones
It wasn't last year I think... And then still, that guy that AiZak mentioned mostly got his results in 2.2 races. Not saying that he doesn't deserve higher than he got, don't know much about him, but in comparision to Van de Sande, this is fair Edited by Jesleyh on 07-02-2013 16:42
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It's also great that you suggested riders that should be worse than currently, ppanther, because most times the suggestions are only riders that should be better but if we keep increasing and increasing stats, that's not very good for the overall stats matrix of the DB 
