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| Stromeon |
Posted on 10-06-2013 21:41
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Too early to give a top 10, maybe in a week or so 
I don't really think the Dauphine has left us any wiser than when it started. Froome is the obvious favourite, and while Contador didn't do that well on paper, on the two summit finishes, at Valmorel he was only 4 secs behind Froome; and at Risoul he waited for Rogers.
Battle for 2nd, white, and green should all be close + interesting; especially white looks quite unpredictable - I count 4 real [sort of equal] contenders for that.
Green, should be between Sagan and Cav - I think Cav might edge it as I see him taking about 4-5 stages.
Let's hope that Bertie, Purito et al spice up the race with some attacks to make it more interesting than last year's euthanasia-inducing edition.
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| fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 10-06-2013 22:16
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I hope a Giro-style fight for white between TVG and Pinot, maybe Quintana and Talansky as well.
Green is most likely Cav's and Froome will take yellow. Polkadot is more difficult to predict. D. Martin? Voeckler? Amador? Maybe some of the GC-guys whose classification failed?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 10-06-2013 22:17
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I say D. Martin for KOM.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-06-2013 06:36
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I am surprised many are giving the edge for green to Cavendish, as he is not able to ride over the single hill, but yeah, it seems that organiser made everything to him have a chance with half of Tour stages being pan flat boredom.
It will be competition i will be looking forward to the most, as Sagan will have to attack in several mountain stages to try and get midstage poits and breakaway wins (if someone will be crazy enough to let him go). We saw him climb like a mountain goat yesterday, if he will hold on hilly stages and will attack in descents, i can still see him beating Cav for green.
At least Sagan is having great team support of at least five, six riders, not one or two like last year. But unlike Cav, his success should not be directly connected to his train...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-06-2013 06:37
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baseballlover312 wrote:
I say D. Martin for KOM.
For second time in one day. 
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 11-06-2013 06:48
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Also i fancy chances of Kreuziger this year. If he can stay in form from Switzerland, he can maybe aim for late top10 spot and be superdomestique for Contador. If he will ride Tour of course, nothing is decided yet, but would be strange to not include him...
He said he worked on his TT, but he says it every year, while he is getting worse in it.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 11-06-2013 06:52
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BritPCMFan wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Dennis? Sorry, but I don't see Dennis contending for white at all.
Talansky, TvG, Pinot, Quintana are all way, way, way better climbers than Dennis. 
After the last month, I'm not entirely discounting the possibility of Dennis beating Froome.
EDIT: And go on. I know theres aleast one Dutchie I should have on that list (I just cant remember who is going tour and who is still in the white.)
Infact... is Kennaugh still eligable for white? I remember I got him into white at Vuelta on PCM but I forget which year I was on.
Kennaugh is still egliable. Not a contender though...
And in terms of the Dutchies, not really a contender.
Guys like Kruiswijk & Poels aren't egliable anymore this year.
Slagter said he want to give it a try, but I can't see it happenin. Still, can't see Dennis being a contender as well. If it was the 2012 route(TTs) I'd give him a tiny chance. Not now. I could be wrong though 
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 13:56
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The way I see it, there are only two contenders for the white jersey - Quintana and Pinot
Maybe Talansky as well if Hesjedal misses the race or shows up in crap form.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:02
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Lotto have announced their tour squad. Vandenbroeck, Greipel, Henderson, Roelandts, Sieberg, Hansen, Bak and De Clerq were already certitudes. Willems will be the 9th men. Good squad for both their goals, actually if I'm not mistaken the same squad as last year with De Clerq replacing Vanendert
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| jph27 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:02
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I expect whoever wins white to be in the top 3 overall, which both Quintana and Pinot are capable of in my opinion. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:04
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Spilak23 wrote:
Lotto have announced their tour squad. Vandenbroeck, Greipel, Henderson, Roelandts, Sieberg, Hansen, Bak and De Clerq were already certitudes. Willems will be the 9th men. Good squad for both their goals, actually if I'm not mistaken the same squad as last year with De Clerq replacing Vanendert
Willems replaces De Greef from the 2012 squad, if I'm not mistaken. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:07
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What a shame that De Greef wont be able to go for a triple GT top 20
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:08
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Yeah just checked indeed. I'm quite sure De Greef will have done that by the time he retires.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:09
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
The way I see it, there are only two contenders for the white jersey - Quintana and Pinot
Maybe Talansky as well if Hesjedal misses the race or shows up in crap form.
Van Garderen? He put 6 minutes to Pinot last year while working for Evans. I'm not sure Pinot has closed that gap just yet, even with less TT kilometers.
jph27 wrote:
I expect whoever wins white to be in the top 3 overall, which both Quintana and Pinot are capable of in my opinion.
Quintana sure, if he doesn't have to work for Piti. Pinot I think not yet.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 14:12
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I find TVG rather overrated. Without the massive amount of TT kilometers, I find it hard to see him finishing ahead of much better climbers like Quintana and Pinot.
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| 547984 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 16:32
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Spilak23 wrote:
Lotto have announced their tour squad. Vandenbroeck, Greipel, Henderson, Roelandts, Sieberg, Hansen, Bak and De Clerq were already certitudes. Willems will be the 9th men. Good squad for both their goals, actually if I'm not mistaken the same squad as last year with De Clerq replacing Vanendert
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 11-06-2013 16:37
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Three goals: Stages + Green for Greipel and an overal podium with Vandenbroeck
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 11-06-2013 16:41
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kumazan wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
The way I see it, there are only two contenders for the white jersey - Quintana and Pinot
Maybe Talansky as well if Hesjedal misses the race or shows up in crap form.
Van Garderen? He put 6 minutes to Pinot last year while working for Evans. I'm not sure Pinot has closed that gap just yet, even with less TT kilometers.
jph27 wrote:
I expect whoever wins white to be in the top 3 overall, which both Quintana and Pinot are capable of in my opinion.
Quintana sure, if he doesn't have to work for Piti. Pinot I think not yet.
Pinot was also under Casar as a young super-domestique like TVG. Quintana can defeat TVG without the basis of having to help or not. Especially since Quintana doesn't need worry about helping anyone single-handedly, as Movistar has plenty of climbers to help out.
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 11-06-2013 16:48
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
I find TVG rather overrated. Without the massive amount of TT kilometers, I find it hard to see him finishing ahead of much better climbers like Quintana and Pinot. Hasn't really set the world on fire this year. Going into the tour without really great world tour form. |
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 11-06-2013 16:53
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Some long lists for the race.
Argos-Shimano
Bert De Backer, Roy Curvers, John Degenkolb, Tom Dumoulin, Johannes Fröhlinger, Simon Geschke, Yann Huguet, Thierry Hupond, Marcel Kittel, Koen de Kort, Ramon Sinkeldam, Albert Timmer, Tom Veelers
Blanco
Lars Boom, Laurens ten Dam, Robert Gesink, Tom Leezer, Bauke Mollema, Lars Petter Nordhaug, Mark Renshaw, Tom-Jelte Slagter, Bram Tankink, David Tanner, Maarten Tjallingii, Sep Vanmarcke and Maarten Wynants.
BMC
Cadel Evans, Tejay van Garderen, Philippe Gilbert, Mathias Frank, Michael Schär, Steve Morabito, Thor Hushovd, Marcus Burghardt, Amael Moinard, Brent Bookwalter, Dominique Nerz and Manuel Quinziato |
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