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Giro d'Italia 2012 - Week 1
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titleist82
impressive bike handling by guardini!!!
 
CrueTrue
Also - this is why I don't do volunteering for cycling races Wink

 
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kumazan
CrueTrue wrote:
Any source for Ferrari's comment? Sounds too stupid to be believable.


https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?...5&tp=n
 
lluuiiggii
Apparently that translation is a bit exaggerating. Here's another one (which looks more correct compared to what he said in Italian on the link above):

"I didn't know who was behind me. In a sprint, I look straight ahead. I don't preoccupy myself with what's going on behind me."
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sport...hird-stage

Nevertheless, a stupid move by Ferrari, should really have gone by the left (which was the easiest way).
 
cactus-jack
Fantastic, everybody is on a frenzy and ready to lynch Ferrari, all because of something he didn't even say Wink
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kumazan
lluuiiggii wrote:
"I didn't know who was behind me. In a sprint, I look straight ahead. I don't preoccupy myself with what's going on behind me."
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sport...hird-stage


That's the right translation (if an Italian speaker doesn't correct me, my Italian is faaar from perfect after all) of what he says in the tuttobici article. It also says he has apologized, so that's the end of the matter for me.
 
Alakagom
kumazan wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
"I didn't know who was behind me. In a sprint, I look straight ahead. I don't preoccupy myself with what's going on behind me."
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sport...hird-stage


That's the right translation (if an Italian speaker doesn't correct me, my Italian is faaar from perfect after all) of what he says in the tuttobici article. It also says he has apologized, so that's the end of the matter for me.


While for me the matter is over too, it doesn't seem Ferrari apologized, from velonation. So far only Savio did.

While Ferrari was unapologetic, his Androni Giocattoli-Venezuela manager Gianni Savio was rather more diplomatic.

“We very much regret what happened and apologize to Mark Cavendish on behalf of Roberto Ferrari and the whole team,” he told RaiSport. “It was absolutely not a deliberate move; Roberto saw the wheel of Farrar and tried to follow him, not realising that Mark Cavendish was right behind him.”

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"21 year old"? More like 29
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified

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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
kumazan
The tuttobici article says he has apologized. Wink
 
lluuiiggii
On the tuttobici article I think it says he apologized, "as had already done his team manager Gianni Savio."

Besides, if you look at his reaction after the crash: his initial reaction is to get back pedalling as soon as possible, but moments later he stops contesting the sprint, and kinda punches his bike as he crosses the line (probably realizing he shouldn't have done that and regretting it).



It doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong, but at least he's not acting like an asshole after it.
 
Alakagom
lluuiiggii wrote:
On the tuttobici article I think it says he apologized, "as had already done his team manager Gianni Savio."

Besides, if you look at his reaction after the crash: his initial reaction is to get back pedalling as soon as possible, but moments later he stops contesting the sprint, and kinda punches his bike as he crosses the line (probably realizing he shouldn't have done that and regretting it).



It doesn't change the fact that he did something wrong, but at least he's not acting like an asshole after it.


Doubt that, while his comments have been exaggerated he still said this below, plus to me it looked he was bit pissed as he could have thought he could have possibly won the stage and someone behind him stopped him doing so, that's why the annoyance at the end. It's possibly just my opinion though Pfft

“I don’t know who was behind me,” he said. “I know that when Farrar went I threw myself right and somebody hooked me back. There was space to pass, I don’t know who was on the wheel or what happened.

“I made my sprint,” he added. “I was on my course. I was in front of him [Cavendish], I don’t care what happens behind me.”

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Schleck96
Is Ferrari Stupid?
 
fenian_1234
That was a mad move from Ferrari. Shock

To be fair to him though, he saw a gap and tried to go through it. Problem was it was Cav closing the gap out. He might have made it through if it was one of the other 'slower' sprinters.

Never really understood the hold your line part of sprinting - taking it literally would mean no one would ever be able to come round the rider in front as you have to change your line.....
 
baseballlover312
Ferrari was having a mental breakdown. He saw Cav coming, and in rage, he took him out. He thought it was just part of the sport. Every man for themself. Rolling Eyes
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Montolivo
He apologised. What do you expect him to do? To go down on his knees and beg for Cav. Rolling Eyes
 
doddy13
fenian_1234 wrote:
That was a mad move from Ferrari. Shock

To be fair to him though, he saw a gap and tried to go through it. Problem was it was Cav closing the gap out. He might have made it through if it was one of the other 'slower' sprinters.

Never really understood the hold your line part of sprinting - taking it literally would mean no one would ever be able to come round the rider in front as you have to change your line.....


It's not meaning that, it means altering it drastically. A move like we saw today. It's a rule that makes sprints a bit more safe and not all over the place. Imagine if everyone did what Ferrari did today!
Luckilly we do very rarely see this though.
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ruben
I've seen Cavendish do exactly the same move a few years ago. But you didn't hear every British fan crying disgrace at that moment Smile
 
The-Pot
From our pov it was obviously a dangerous move he should haven't done but in his mind he only sees the finish line ahead so I'l give him the benefit of the doubt as long he apologizes.
I also don't think the general response to his (and I say it again) dangerous move would be the same if the where in opposite situations.
 
baseballlover312
The-Pot wrote:
From our pov it was obviously a dangerous move he should haven't done but in his mind he only sees the finish line ahead so I'l give him the benefit of the doubt as long he apologizes.
I also don't think the general response to his (and I say it again) dangerous move would be the same if the where in opposite situations.

Really? I hate Cavendish. But at least I recognize that the horrible move by Ferrari cost the guy a fair sprint and got him banged up. If Cav was the one who did it, I'd probably be on here screaming for a disqualification. And for the record...
Disqualify Ferrari!!!!!!!!!!!!
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