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PCM 2013
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:36
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cio93 wrote:
That looks awesome, though one thing isn't clear to me, I don't know if they adressed it in the stream.
I assume that new fitness planning replaces the old one completely.
Is there a way to modify this curve after priority races are set?
So far, if I had spare riders after season planning, I assigned them a custom plan so they had a good base fitness level all year long which allowed me to nearly instantly use them as a replacement for injured riders.
Plus, some helpers obviously don't need peak form in their main races so they can easily do multiple GTs etc.
I've taken a better look at the fitness planning screens and I don't see any button to manually adjust it. I'm afraid you'll just have to find the best goals possible to have an evenly spread out fitness schedule. Maybe more goals means more "peaks" but the peaks will be much lower so the line will be more horizontal, if you know what I mean! |
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:46
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I just don't get it how the system with the green and red line works. Why represent fitness with 2 lines? Isn't it easier with one line that rises and falls?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:47
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What lines do you mean? In the fitness schedule from Basso? It's just: Green is fitness and red is the bit of fitness that won't be reached because of fatigue. |
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:50
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Yeah but why would you say I can reach 90% (green) fitness but only 70% is available (-20% red line). Do you understand what I mean?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:51
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Hmm, it doesn't have a real function, but it's nice to see the original fitness program compared to how his fatigue will evolve  this way you can see if a schedule is too hard or not. Maybe adding too many goals makes for too tough a schedule and then you'll see the red line taking down the green line entirely? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 31-05-2013 19:08
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time to set froome's goal to win the tour and secondary goals vuelta and giro. Let's see automatic fitness fuck that up |
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| Saganisfasterthancav |
Posted on 31-05-2013 19:27
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Any idea of rider attributes, for people like froome or contador? |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 31-05-2013 19:30
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Saganisfasterthancav wrote:
Any idea of rider attributes, for people like froome or contador?
Do you really find that relevant? You can just change them yourself anyway.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 31-05-2013 21:47
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Wow, what an improvement. Cyanide actually did what we wanted!
Not that it will be without bugs, and you have to wait for the Daily DB, but definietly a must buy.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 31-05-2013 23:18
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Only thing I wasn't happy with from what the stream showed is the interface for some menus. They have luckily fixed the ridiculously huge mailbox from PCM12's career mode, but there are still some ugly blank areas, I think.
Here, for example:
Just pointless to have more than a quarter of the screen blank, if you ask me. How many Conti-Teams do you think could be an a big DB?
Edited by Lachi on 31-05-2013 23:30
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| 547984 |
Posted on 31-05-2013 23:22
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Personally I don't like the fitness tbh. Unless the Primary/Secondary stuff has A LOT or criteria, or else there's not much self-planning.
Everything else is nice, just hope they didn't overdo the gaps.
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| Lachi |
Posted on 31-05-2013 23:30
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What do you think is wrong with the fitness planning. If it works, then it saves you a lot of time. Why should you want to plan it yourself, don't you trust it? Additionally it should help balancing the game because now AI riders could have individual fitness schedules also. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 01-06-2013 00:26
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Yeah my biggest issue has always been the setting up of a game, which I normally used to sink hours into whereas with this if I can just spend 20 minutes going through and have them automatically created I can get to the actual racing.
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| 547984 |
Posted on 01-06-2013 00:47
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Lachi wrote:
What do you think is wrong with the fitness planning. If it works, then it saves you a lot of time. Why should you want to plan it yourself, don't you trust it? Additionally it should help balancing the game because now AI riders could have individual fitness schedules also.
The AI part I agree about, just the fact that I can't have more control over fatigue and stuff kind of sucks. Plus, planning yourself adds to the game, isn't that why it's a "manager"?
baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
Big thanks to jdog for making this AMAZING userbar! |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 01-06-2013 01:39
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Planning the season is usually fun for me, deciding fitness schedules meticulously for every rider was nice. So yeah, if there's an option that you can do the schedules yourself or at least have very good control over it would be nice. On the other hand, the AI point that Lachi mentioned is very interesting, let's hope Cyanide used it's potential (f.e. to give more realistic fitness schedules for the smaller teams).
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| 547984 |
Posted on 01-06-2013 01:53
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CountArach wrote:
Yeah my biggest issue has always been the setting up of a game, which I normally used to sink hours into whereas with this if I can just spend 20 minutes going through and have them automatically created I can get to the actual racing.
Really it just comes down to personal preference and how much of manager you want.
baseballlover312, 06-03-14 : "Nuke Moscow...Don't worry Russia, we've got plenty of love to go around your cities"
Sarah Palin, 08-03-14 (CPAC, on Russian aggression) : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke"
Big thanks to jdog for making this AMAZING userbar! |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 01-06-2013 02:46
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I already pre-ordered... Anyhow, looks amazing. We have REAL attacks!!
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| eple |
Posted on 01-06-2013 05:10
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Thanks for the screens, Ian. The video was hard to watch and the sound was so low I couldn't hear what was said, but the screens summed it up well. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 01-06-2013 07:49
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eple wrote:
Thanks for the screens, Ian. The video was hard to watch and the sound was so low I couldn't hear what was said, but the screens summed it up well.
Glad to have been of help  |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 01-06-2013 08:02
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Lachi wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Just pointless to have more than a quarter of the screen blank, if you ask me. How many Conti-Teams do you think could be an a big DB?
Doesn't matter. As shown by this screen, the left side is just "selected" teams, which will always be less than 20 something.
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