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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 31-05-2013 16:49
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Thanks a lot for that Ian, this game sure looks promising. Even if they can only manage to get 90% of that right, I'd probably buy it..
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 31-05-2013 16:50
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Ian Butler wrote:
I'm afraid we'll have to make completely new database editors, though. With those new fitness models, riders' goals etc, I don't know if the current editors will work!
That's not how DB editors work 
Not that I understand anything about programming editors (I don't ), but take the PCM Fast Editor f.e.; even though it has only been made for PCM11, it works with .cdb from all games 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:03
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Oh, okay so there will just have to be added some categories then (personal rider goals etc) |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:04
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That looks awesome, though one thing isn't clear to me, I don't know if they adressed it in the stream.
I assume that new fitness planning replaces the old one completely.
Is there a way to modify this curve after priority races are set?
So far, if I had spare riders after season planning, I assigned them a custom plan so they had a good base fitness level all year long which allowed me to nearly instantly use them as a replacement for injured riders.
Plus, some helpers obviously don't need peak form in their main races so they can easily do multiple GTs etc.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:21
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I'm just asking here to be sure of it:
PCM.Daily also sells the game, so a bit of the money goes to this site. I'm all for that, but I've got a few questions, hoping someone could answer them all 
1. How is a digital copy different from a hard copy?
2. How big is it to download and what is the download file (torrents required?)
3. When is the PCMDaily version available usually? Couple days later?
So far that's all, thanks in advance!
@cio93: I'm not sure if they said it in the stream, think not. I hope you can edit it yourself. But you can set your helpers' goals to the three GTs and I guess the fitness will adjust itself that way. Think the fitness thing looks pretty great, though. |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:25
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1) Digital is download, no disc. Hard Copy means disc version
2) Not sure on exact size (might be on official site) but a good few GB. Think its a direct DL (no torrents)
3) Someone said release day...
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| Lachi |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:26
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1. No difference except that you have a disk.
2. Check DVD of PCM12 to see the size. No torrents
3. It is only a link, you will be redirected to the official shop
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| CountArach |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:26
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Haha I just answered them on the front page.
1. It is downloaded rather than physical.
2. It depends on teh size of the game, that will be announced closer to release. Usually several GB.
3. From the comments in the latest post on the front page it seems that it will be available to buy from here before release day so that it can be played on release. Not that it matters a lot, it usually takes a patch or two to fix basic issues anyway.
EDIT: Wtf... double Zabel'd.
Edited by CountArach on 31-05-2013 17:26
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:27
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PCM11 was 4,05 GB, PCM12 was 4,17 GB, so expect something like that.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:28
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Okay, but my computer is a risk-case, so if it crashes during the download, which could happen, could I download it again? What I mean to say is: do you pay for the download file or do you get the code and can you download the file a million times if necessary? |
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| Lachi |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:29
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CountArach wrote:
EDIT: Wtf... double Zabel'd. The secret is to type fast and little.
And to answer Ian Butlers question: You can download as often as you like, but it is recommended to make a backup because the link might get invalid after a certain time
Edited by Lachi on 31-05-2013 17:30
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| Jeremy |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:31
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Ah! I found an old post of mine in the PCM-Portugal forum, with suggestions for PCM2012:
Integração do planeador de época no jogo. Deveria ser possível definir objectivos por ciclista (ou então assignar ciclistas da nossa equipa a objectivos do sponsor) e devia ser proposto automaticamente um plano de treinos, mas deveria ser possível alterar esse plano.
Não faz sentido perder horas no inicio de cada época a planear a época toda manualmente.
Neste cenário que coloco aconteceria algo do género:
- Fabian Cancellara:
- Ganhar PR
- Ganhar RVV
- Gregário no Tour
- Ganhar campeonato do mundo Road e TT
- Participar na Volta à Suiça, sem objectivos
- etc.
Seria proposto um plano com pico em Abril, Julho e Outubro.
Basically I asked that it should be possible to set specific goals per rider and that an automatic fitness plan should be proposed based on those goals. It's close enough  |
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| ShortsNL |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:32
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Wow Ian... are you getting paid by Cyanide for all this PR?
Looks great though, good work man |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:34
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ShortsNL wrote:
Wow Ian... are you getting paid by Cyanide for all this PR?
Looks great though, good work man
Hoping for a free copy
Thanks! |
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 31-05-2013 17:56
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Anyone know roughly when the stream video will be posted for people to watch?
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:18
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Stromeon wrote:
Anyone know roughly when the stream video will be posted for people to watch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhJicI...r_embedded
It's not posted by Cyanide, and not awesome quality, but it's something
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:19
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Oh great, will definitely watch again tomorrow makes my summary a bit useless but whatever |
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:20
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Not totally useless Ian. I still learned a lot. At school. When I'm supposed to be doing an essay. And a final project.
"America. Show a nipple on television and the whole country goes ape-shit." -DubbelDekker
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:20
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Ian Butler wrote:
Oh great, will definitely watch again tomorrow makes my summary a bit useless but whatever
No, some people don't want to spend 1:40 on watching if they can read it in 5 minutes
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 31-05-2013 18:29
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Reading the news you always have to hold a step back... but with this, wow! I haven't seem the livestream, but with Ian's sum up and the reactions to it it looks like the game is pretty awesome.
Now we should just wait the bugs that will be introduced
Oh, and the team strenght pentagon really remembers me of WE 08 or something. Good old PS2 times
ps.: "We could also include the tour of my neighbourhood as an objective, I'm sure that it's a very prestigious race" 
Did you ever doubt me Luigi ?
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