Well, you know what I think of Froome, but I'm pleased to see that he's actually taken some steps to provide some much-needed transparency, I've got to give some credit to him (or is it credit to Michelle?). While it's somewhat reassuring to know that he had some talent to begin with, and obviously there was room for improvement in those numbers given his weight, it still doesn't answer two of the key questions in my head: a) the rapid weight loss and transformation between Pologne and the Vuelta in 2011, and b) my favourite Dave Brailsford graph (from 2011, pre-Vuelta of course)
Neverthless the release of data by any rider is to be applauded, even more so given Froome's high profile nature and the controversy surrounding him. If Froome is happy to release stuff like this given the suspicion around him, shouldn't it be fine for pretty much everyone else? Thibaut Pinot aside, we're lacking data from other really top pros, which would be useful in both assessing them individually and also as a basis of comparison to Froome.
With you on riders releasing data Stromeon, Pinot is clearly the exception with this and makes what Froome has released look pale in comparison and the rest of the GC riders look even worse.
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I've posted this before but as it's relevant to the current data release here's the link again https://sportsscie...hysiology/
Taking the comprehensive data from Pinot means you can start to calculate what's reasonable using the triangular relationship between VO2 Max, efficiency and sustainable intensity.
However, you need this data both regularly and from multiple riders to be able to compare and get a moving picture of the information.
Oh boy, this thread is back! One of my all time favorites.
I have a really controversial video rant about Sky and why I hate them so much including a lot of stuff from here dropping a couple of hours, might as well post it here then.
Poels had similar performances on Angliru and Zoncolan in 2011 and 2014, but I think the performance of today topped it all. Pretty ridiculous from Dutchman, he seemed to close gaps without breathing and policing the best climbers like it was nothing
I have a really controversial video rant about Sky and why I hate them so much including a lot of stuff from here dropping a couple of hours, might as well post it here then.
I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.
He rides his bike and runs alot for a guy who's took his own life (we follow eachother on Strava) The forum is poorer without him around, same goes for isso
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I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.
Not this bullshit again please.
Just a joke mate, I think the rest of the post accounts for that.
Fair enough, i would just be sad if members who were not here back then would have an impression that i have forced someone out on purpose.
( my annoying personality is not my fault, i was born like that).
I wish but it won't happen. Avin killed isso and I think Aquarius ended his own life from his sorrow over that.
Not this bullshit again please.
Just a joke mate, I think the rest of the post accounts for that.
Fair enough, i would just be sad if members who were not here back then would have an impression that i have forced someone out on purpose.
( my annoying personality is not my fault, i was born like that).
Well I think you will force everybody out eventually
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Me too, but to stay on topic, can SKY get any better, with Rosa in? Who will go out anyway, i am not sure about their contracts, apart from Konig, who i expect to leave...
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Just my private view on dope.
As I can't prove Yes or No, I won't speculate, but one thing is sure in Fromy or Sky use is I'm 100% sure, everyone else does too, so I don't think it will effect the balance between the riders.
There have been drugs in cycling for 100 years +, but as long as everyone use it, the best riders will win.
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Just my private view on dope.
As I can't prove Yes or No, I won't speculate, but one thing is sure in Fromy or Sky use is I'm 100% sure, everyone else does too, so I don't think it will effect the balance between the riders.
There have been drugs in cycling for 100 years +, but as long as everyone use it, the best riders will win.
There's a difference though. Everyone else might be doped to the gills, but Sky have much more money. They can find new drugs that are more effective and harder to detect because of it. Kind of like their "marginal gains" within doping itself.
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