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Expansion Pack: Stat Discussion
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 08-09-2012 21:32
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I can say that the resistance stats have been lowered across the board in the release.
I've been busy with school-work lately and so the new Continental teams stats might not be perfect. I will be releasing stats add-on after Worlds Championships with general stats update focusing on Continental teams. If anyone wants to help in anyway, PM me 
Edited by Alakagom on 08-09-2012 22:29
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| SweatyViking |
Posted on 09-09-2012 20:22
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Note: Tosh Van Den Sanse is a good sprinter, around 71-72. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 09-09-2012 20:25
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Plus on Rowe stats? He defeated better sprinters than him, also Van Hoff up? He has shown he is a very good sprinter. |
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| Dinli |
Posted on 09-09-2012 20:29
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Pay attention with Sergio Ribeiro. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 09-09-2012 23:18
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SweatyViking wrote:
Note: Tosh Van Den Sanse is a good sprinter, around 71-72.
Note: First learn to spell his name.  Tosh Van der Sande.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 09-09-2012 23:23
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Miguel98 wrote:
Plus on Rowe stats? He defeated better sprinters than him, also Van Hoff up? He has shown he is a very good sprinter.
Only one stage
If he gets another good couple of sprints then maybe, but stage one was messed up.
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| dvdgms |
Posted on 10-09-2012 10:45
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Maneljaquim wrote:
Attention on Andre Cardoso in Vuelta .. I think he deserves more in Mou ..
I agree, he is one of the best portuguese climbers. Something like 73/74.
Edited by dvdgms on 10-09-2012 10:48
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| cio93 |
Posted on 10-09-2012 11:45
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Plus on Rowe stats? He defeated better sprinters than him, also Van Hoff up? He has shown he is a very good sprinter.
Only one stage
If he gets another good couple of sprints then maybe, but stage one was messed up.
Highly so. Only two Sky riders made the cut after Cav crashed, so rather unsurprising.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 10-09-2012 18:12
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Endura;
Dempster 72-73SP
Thwaites 67-70CB
Downing 74SP
Mandri and Wilkinson are overpowered in sprint 71max
Rapha;
Clancy STA is too high 65max
House 68-69FTR
McCallum overpowered SP
Raleigh;
Briggs 69-71FL lowerSP higher ACC
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Bialoblocki 69FL 67TT 65PLG
IG;
Opie higher FL 67ish
Backstedt FL67ish
overall quite good, but most have too high SP and ACC in general
Most UK races are 150km or less, in fact most are crit's. So higher ACC's, lower STA's and less SP overall.
While this is countered by lower secondary stats, it will show odd results when they race against each other.
Thwaites dominated the Premier Calendar and needs a general boost.
Bialbolocki was 2nd and needs a general boost
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| Bojan |
Posted on 10-09-2012 18:14
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Is there a tested point behind the GC guys' endurance stats; e.g. Cunego having 79, Scarponi 78, Hesjedal 77, whilst Contador, Froome, VDB2 only having 76?
The resistances have certainly been altered/lowered, looking to experience the effects of that.
Edited by Bojan on 10-09-2012 18:16
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 10-09-2012 18:48
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Endurance has pretty much no effect in stages shorter than 180 km. The classics specialists thus receive high endurance, so that they'll be able to cope with the distance in those races.
Froome, for example, doesn't have any results in the classics. Therefore his endurance is lower, to make sure that he'll have a harder time winning a race like LBL.
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| Bojan |
Posted on 10-09-2012 20:05
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I see, it's aimed at the classics.
In a stage race mountain stage, I suppose this would mean VDB using more of his green bar than Nibali (both 80 mountain), if doing the exact same effort, because of his lower stamina. And he would thus need higher rec stats to compensate for the endurance stats being adjusted to the classics? Since I don't reckon the classics endurance stats really are comparable to endurance in stage races. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 10-09-2012 20:28
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As far as I know, it works just like that.
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| Bojan |
Posted on 10-09-2012 21:28
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Majka is a rider who was overlooked in this release. Definately deserves a couple of +mountain after finally showing his promise in la Vuelta and Tour de l'Ain. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 11-09-2012 17:10
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Don't know if it's here that I should post this but why is Luka Mezgec not in the DB? He is a good sprinter who won a lot of races this year. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 11-09-2012 17:12
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Miguel98 wrote:
Don't know if it's here that I should post this but why is Luka Mezgec not in the DB? He is a good sprinter who won a lot of races this year.
More like in the comments thread than here, but anyway: since there's already a big number of riders, the new ones are mostly added by necessity (if a team has a rider that is not in the DB). Could consider adding him though for the future versions
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| IvanGil |
Posted on 11-09-2012 17:16
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Ezequiel Mosquera although I think this sanctioned and possibly when no return is at the same level when it was, I think because of its nice features climbers who showed in 2010, should be at least 76 in mountain and 74 in hill,do not you think?
Edited by IvanGil on 11-09-2012 17:17
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 11-09-2012 17:27
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I find Karpets pretty overrated. His stats overall are way too high for a guy who hasn't produced any major results in the last couple of years.
Also Lastras should be lowered imo. He has really declined this year.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 11-09-2012 21:03
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Boost on Siskevicius stats? He has beaten riders like Simon, Honig or Trussov. All of them with higher sprint stat than him. He also deserves a boost on hil HIL stat and MO stat. |
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| Smal |
Posted on 11-09-2012 22:05
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Smal wrote:
Ian Stannard is underrated in a lot of areas imo.
In the Giro, he rode so hard on the flat that he split the peloton in half and brought back the escape group in no time at all. In Poland he was in the breakaway all day and he was caught. After Henao got brought back, Stannard got to the front and without even properly attacking he opened up a gap on the peloton and just kept going and opened up a massive gap. I would increase his FL to 76 from 74. Also I think his hill attribute is too low. He easily won the British RR on a very hilly circuit and he also climbed with Kreuziger in Poland and actually looked a lot more comfortable than him. I'd say an increase to 72 would be fair. Also, despite not being a great TTist, he finished the Giro TT very well, so I would increase his recovery up to somewhere near 70. I would also increase his RES, as he can put very long turns/attacks in. He also goes downhill much better than 62 would suggest. I've given him a 6 for potential as well, but it probably is borderline 5/6.
Also, I think Tiernan-Locke deserves a better ACC. He is very much so capable of accelerating fast uphill like a typical puncher. It should be 70+
I would like to reiterate these points. FL of 74 is far too low for Stannard as he proved once more in La Vuelta |
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