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| knockout |
Posted on 24-07-2017 17:58
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trekbmc wrote:
Serious props to knockout though, you're a natural at this game, everytime I saw you had posted I was worried you would acuse me again and I would finally be lynched. 
Hehe thanks. Never played the game outside of pcmdaily but I kinda love it already. Gotta admit that I had it a lot easier than every other townie as only I could know for sure that you are not the detective.
But I made sure that I keep mentioning that you could be part of the mafia in every single post to made sure you'd be lynch right after my eventual kill.
In fact I was so sure that you are mafia and not CC that I voted with a imo much weaker explanation for bbl (which probably surprised you and seemingly confused half the town) just to see who else is quickly jumping on the bandwaggon. Waghlon didn't disappoint me and confirmed to my head cannon that he is the next likely mafia member. Quite weird that of all the people i picked out the detective . Totally forgot about the terrorist though which destroyed a big part of my plans as neither me nor bbl survived that day (tried to help bbl for the next daday with my big scenario post hoping that he would investigate waghlon again)
knockout wrote:
The only reason I can see that they willingly did not kill anybody is that they tried to fake a doctor save on trek which would make trek look innocent if he were part of the mafia. And that is propably too complex
That post just hurt my feelings though. 
Sorry that I underestimated you there
I was just so sure that you had little chance to survive till the end that i never saw you missing out the chance for an easy corpse. And tbh, it still doesn't make too much sense to me when part of the plan was to bomb yourself.
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Posted on 24-07-2017 18:41
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jseadog1 wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
Bah jseadog, why wouldn't you trust me Pfft
But yeah, game over. I was The Godfather IV
Because you were using a dodging tactic throughout the whole game  and just acting a little off. I was not going to make the first move to lynch you and everyone call me out like they did when people started lynching bball. I wanted to stay in because I had weapons but did not just want to hand them out to everyone. I gave one to bball because I originally trusted him but he never used it which raised a red flag to me
I wasn't just going to use the weapon on a rando, I wanted a good lead. If somehow Trek and I had both survived the day of bloodshed I was going to off him that night.
Good game everyone. Now, we could have won this game days ago if you all had just believed me since I was the detective, but nevertheless, we did win, even if only two people are left in the town. The 3 mafia members in four nights was completely coincidental luck, but a very cool factoid.
Knockout was definitely MVP in my book. He put so much thought into everything that he forced Trek to kill himself when it might have just gone to lynch me otherwise. His explanations forced everyone to believe me, and even though it was too late for me to live, that still helped win the game.
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Posted on 24-07-2017 18:16
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knockout wrote:
Btw, what happened the first nights? Night 1 doctor save and night 3 trying to protect trekbmc by not killing anyone?
Also what was the mafia plan behind the detective claim by trek? Was it trying to get me lynched? Or forcing the detectives to claim themselves? Or what was the aim behind it?
Night 1 we forgot (hence me claiming to 'forget' to investigate on night 1 Pfft) Night 3 faking a doctor save on me.
The plan with the detective claim was either to create havoc (i.e. The real CC finds that someone in the town is mafia, that person gets lynched, then so does the real CC for faking (or even better if the CC finds several 'mafia' or me as inno). It probably would've worked in the end if Rafid was active as I would've been bought some time maybe by his lynching. Also getting the detective out so I could blow them up without the doctor protecting them was a goal, btw, who was the doctor?
Selwink perhaps?
Sounds good. perhaps waiting a day longer or pushing harder to lynch me would have given you more credibility. You played it quite well but I don't see how I would have survived the second day if you tried to hammer me out of the game (you could easily have played the "either we got a mafia member of we have confirmed the other detective as trustable " card)
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| Selwink |
Posted on 24-07-2017 18:15
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I was the doctor indeed. Shame to find out that I wasn't doctor-god I never tried to save trek in night 3 btw, thought knockout would make more sense to save.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 24-07-2017 18:31
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Will come with my full analysis later tonight though, and I'm glad the thread title can be changed in something more favorable to me
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| Reveille |
Posted on 24-07-2017 18:40
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It was fun guys glad that we won. Sorry that I played poorly at the end of the game. I have to say that I thought it was jseadog until he got killed. If I were the mafia I would've killed Marco that round. Thanks for running this Jandal and knockout you are the real MVP. BBL I tried my best to keep you alive.
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Doctor- Selwink
Masons- Croatia, Aquarius
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 24-07-2017 18:54
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I was just a simple townie...
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-07-2017 18:55
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Waghlon is the perfect Godfather. I don't believe it was random, jandal!
Very great game to follow, nicely played and exciting to the finish! |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 24-07-2017 19:24
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@Ian - It was random but I have to agree
@Marco - Fine, but eventually it'll just say Game Thread to not spoil those reading
First off, congratulations to every member of the town for their win. it was a good game with some questionable decisions, but well played nevertheless.
Now, all is revealed
Revielle - Townie
ryant - Mason
Marcovdw - Confused Cop
Raziz - Mafia Goon
Luxemburger - Mason
Aquarius97 - Townie
jseadog1 - Gunsmith
trekbmc - Terrorist
MountainMaster - Townie
Selwink - Doctor
weirdskyfan64 - Townie
knockout - Townie
Waghlon - Godfather
baseballlover312 - Detective
Croatia14 - Townie
Night 1:
Mafia forget to kill anybody
Marcovdw investigates baseballlover312 (Mafia Read)
baseballlover312 investigates Raziz (Mafia Read)
Selwink saves Selwink
jseadog1 crafts a weapon for baseballlover312
Day 1:
The town lynches nobody
Night 2:
The Mafia kill Croatia14
Marcovdw investigates Waghlon (Town Read)
baseballlover312 investigates Waghlon (Town Read)
Selwink saves baseballlover312
Day 2:
The town lynches nobody
Night 3:
The Mafia deliberately kill nobody.
Marcovdw investigates trekbmc (Mafia Read)
baseballlover312 investigates knockout (Town Read)
Selwink saves knockout (nice try fellas ) Also a note to Reveille - I would have said it, yes, if the doctor had made a save
Day 3:
The town lynch MountainMaster (pro-town)
Night 4:
The Mafia kill Selwink
Marcovdw investigates knockout (Mafia Read)
baseballlover312 investigates trekbmc (Mafia Read)
Selwink saves ryant
Day 4:
trekbmc commits murder-suicide against knockout
The town lynch baseballlover312 (pro-town)
Night 5:
The Mafia kill Luxemburger
Day 5:
The town lynch Raziz (anti-town)
Night 6:
The Mafia kill Aquarius97
Day 6:
The town lynch weirdskyfan64 (pro-town)
Night 7:
The Mafia kill ryant
jseadog1 crafts a weapon for ryant
Day 7:
The town lynch nobody
Night 8:
The Mafia kill jseadog1
jseadog1 crafts a weapon for Marcovdw
Day 8:
Marcovdw kills Waghlon
The town win the game!
My Thoughts:
First off, congratulations to the town on a deserved win here. I'd like to share my thoughts as the host of the game.
As many have said, knockout was the MVP of this game. He provided a valuable insight for the town at every opportunity and left them with a clear message what to do. It's no surprise he was trekbmc's target first to frame him and secondly to bomb him.
Marcovdw did well to fire that winning shot, too, as well as playing the game quite well (he had some good investigations to make, if only he wasn't so confused ). baseballlover had that amazing 3-1 mafia investigation streak even if Waghlon appeared town. Speaking of which, I thought Waghlon played an excellent game under the circumstances as the last mafia member and almost pulled it out of the bag - chapeau to you.
Two things I wished happened - the first is on my part as I apologise again for not giving extra voting hours after trekbmc's terrorist attack - I searched but couldn't find a precedent and sort of panic-went to night. The second is Waghlon choosing not to kill anybody on the last night Though in saying that, other than killing Marcovdw, he made the right move in the end though it didn't give him the result he wanted.
And lastly, thanks to every single player of this game, I've enjoyed it and I hope you have and also hope to see many of you back for the next edition, potentially sometime Octoberish.
Edited by jandal7 on 24-07-2017 19:50
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 24-07-2017 19:42
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Damn I wish people would believe me I do what they tell me and they still don't believe me
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 24-07-2017 19:55
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Marcovdw investigates Waghlon (Town Read)
baseballlover312 investigates Waghlon (Town Read)
Y'all got no chill
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-07-2017 19:57
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My thought as an innocent(?) bystander:
trek was doing some weird ass stuff near the end but he blew himself up just in time. He juggled his cc story long enough and acted in time , nice.
Waghlon the ultimate don, perfectly played until the end, but marcov with the decisive kill. The end was real exciting and I had no idea who was who.
I did suspect Raziz at one point and he turned out to be mafia so I was right there, hooray.
I never believed bbl to be mafia. It was a sad day when he died |
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| ryant |
Posted on 24-07-2017 20:07
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Knockout was the MVP of the game for me, very believable and put a lot of thought into everything, especially in that nice situational piece on BBL.
The town made some bad decisions towards the end (influenced greatly by me Sorry!) but I'm glad we got the win with the clutch by marco at the end!
I thought I played ok, my voting record was largely correct and I did manage to put Waghlon in the 'untrusted' faction of remaining townsfolk over Reveille (who I'm glad wasn't revealed to be the GF, would have been embarrassing for me as I trusted him early on)
I also tried to be tactical at the end, hoping someone would claim to be a Mason in the last few days hoping to catch them out but alas Waghlon didnt take the bait 
Congrats TOWN!!!
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| Reveille |
Posted on 24-07-2017 20:25
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Just curious Jseadog would you have voted to lynch me or Waghlon if he had killed Marco? |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 24-07-2017 20:26
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Can you please not lynch me before the game starts next time?
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 24-07-2017 20:30
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Reveille wrote:
Just curious Jseadog would you have voted to lynch me or Waghlon if he had killed Marco?
Waghlon for sure, I had full trust in you for the last part of the game. It was Marco & Waghlon who I was deciding between.
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 24-07-2017 21:21
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Please tell me that I was killed by the Mafia for a reason and not randomly 
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 24-07-2017 21:43
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Sorry I actually suggested to kill either you or Knockout and we ended up choosing you, if only we'd chosen Knockout...
knockout wrote:
Sounds good. perhaps waiting a day longer or pushing harder to lynch me would have given you more credibility. You played it quite well but I don't see how I would have survived the second day if you tried to hammer me out of the game (you could easily have played the "either we got a mafia member of we have confirmed the other detective as trustable " card)
Yeah, that would've been quite smart, I was quite tempted when you asked me for my second read (leading me to panic and read the whole thread to see if I'd been asked to make a read in a particular person) to say that I found you as mafia, so that I still might be detective but I figured that it would make me more trustworthy to claim I wasn't the detective, unfortunately, it probably would've been smarter to go the other way.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 24-07-2017 22:58
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Luxemburger wrote:
Please tell me that I was killed by the Mafia for a reason and not randomly
Might wanna sit down, because I got some bad news
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Posted on 25-07-2017 05:10
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trekbmc wrote:
knockout wrote:
Btw, what happened the first nights? Night 1 doctor save and night 3 trying to protect trekbmc by not killing anyone?
Also what was the mafia plan behind the detective claim by trek? Was it trying to get me lynched? Or forcing the detectives to claim themselves? Or what was the aim behind it?
Night 1 we forgot (hence me claiming to 'forget' to investigate on night 1 ) Night 3 faking a doctor save on me.
The plan with the detective claim was either to create havoc (i.e. The real CC finds that someone in the town is mafia, that person gets lynched, then so does the real CC for faking (or even better if the CC finds several 'mafia' or me as inno). It probably would've worked in the end if Rafid was active as I would've been bought some time maybe by his lynching.
Also getting the detective out so I could blow them up without the doctor protecting them was a goal, btw, who was the doctor?
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 25-07-2017 10:00
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That title looks much better
I was actually quite certain it would be Waghlon over Reveille, just read through everything again, twice, including the weird David Lynch picture Waghlon send and seeking a hidden message behind it.
But I actually thought the Godfather would lynch me after I called him, amongst others, a whimp. (Please note that everything I wrote during the game was in-character, I don't hate anyone of you ) I actually hoped perhaps that you would continue the impasse but then you'd risk jdog crafting a weapon. My plan was to give jdog three chances, he would send a gun to each of us. If ather those three days no one had received the gun we would lynch him. Luckily that didn't happen.
I do actually feel bad for the whole bball/trek/knockout thingy. I was desperate to prove I was the detective (by the Mafia reading on bball) that I was blinded by the fact trek was not telling the truth.
After all, thanks jandal for organizing.
PS: I'm have never been lynched or killed in all 4 seasons, please don't change that
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Posted on 25-07-2017 19:46
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I actually do not know why I picked Marco to get the gun i pretty much just picked the ones that heckled me the most but could not outright say who I was giving the gun to or they would be killed. Me giving a weapon to ryant the same night he was killed was pure luck
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