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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-06-2013 20:51
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You simply cannot compare the Tour of Norway to le Tour. And Katusha are not planning on leading out Kristoff, they need someone who can bring him close to Greipel or Cav's wheel under the kite
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| cactus-jack |
Posted on 22-06-2013 22:06
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He's had some pretty good results in much larger races than Tour of Norway, mind you. It doesn't really matter which role he gets and in what way he is a priority, he's done pretty good so far against good opposition, but I'm excited because I'm wondering how he'll compete gainst the top riders.
There's a fine line between "psychotherapist" and "psycho the rapist"
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| 27incher |
Posted on 23-06-2013 09:44
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My tour prediction
GC
1: Contador
2: Froome
3: Van den Broeck
4: Van Garderen
5: Costa
6: Martin
7: Rodriguez
8: Quintana
9: Valverde
10: Porte
Points: Sagan
KOM: Mollema
Surprise: Rui Costa. He has enormous potential, is a good GC hope(7th in 2012 and winner of Tour de Suisse), very underrated in my opinion and I could honestly see him on the podium in Paris,
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 23-06-2013 09:55
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27incher wrote:
Surprise: Rui Costa. He has enormous potential, is a good GC hope(7th in 2012 and winner of Tour de Suisse), very underrated in my opinion and I could honestly see him on the podium in Paris,
If you're talking about Tour du Poitou Charentes, then yes. Only GC he finished 7th in last year. 
Also, you know that he'll be working for Valverde, right?
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| 27incher |
Posted on 23-06-2013 10:16
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Also, you know that he'll be working for Valverde, right?
Good point. But personally I think he's a stronger GC rider than Valverde and I think he's also a better GC hope than Quintana due to his experience and Quintana subsequent lack of.
I'm not managing Movistar though, so I might have to change my GC prediction to get rid of Costa. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-06-2013 10:18
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27incher wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Also, you know that he'll be working for Valverde, right?
Good point. But personally I think he's a stronger GC rider than Valverde and I think he's also a better GC hope than Quintana due to his experience and Quintana subsequent lack of.
I'm not managing Movistar though, so I might have to change my GC prediction to get rid of Costa.
What? Costa a better chance for a GT than Valverde, Vuelta winner and last year 3rd in the Vuelta? 
I believe Quintana is the much better climber, for 3 weeks overall might be too much, though. |
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| 27incher |
Posted on 23-06-2013 10:27
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Ian Butler wrote:
What? Costa a better chance for a GT than Valverde, Vuelta winner and last year 3rd in the Vuelta?
Personally, I don't think Valverde has the X-Factor to get a podium in the tour. I think Costa does.
That's just my opinion though, and I gather that not many people will agree with me. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 23-06-2013 10:28
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Costa would need an entire team behind him and some luck. He's strong but top 3, I don't know. Plus with Valverde and Quintana he's not the first in line to go his chances  |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-06-2013 10:31
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Costa has never proven to be a GT contender. Borderline top 10 contender imo.
Valverde has multiple GT podiums (though only in the Vuelta) plus a win and is a better climber
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 23-06-2013 10:32
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Ian Butler wrote:
27incher wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Also, you know that he'll be working for Valverde, right?
Good point. But personally I think he's a stronger GC rider than Valverde and I think he's also a better GC hope than Quintana due to his experience and Quintana subsequent lack of.
I'm not managing Movistar though, so I might have to change my GC prediction to get rid of Costa.
What? Costa a better chance for a GT than Valverde, Vuelta winner and last year 3rd in the Vuelta?
I believe Quintana is the much better climber, for 3 weeks overall might be too much, though.
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I agree; Valverde certainly a better bet than Costa imo and Quintana, while doubts about 3 weeks form, had his best results as helper for Valverde in the 3rd week of the Vuelta (6th on Cuitunigru stage; 4th excluding breakaway on Lagos de Covadonga)
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 23-06-2013 11:14
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Ok, Costa isn't a GC podium contender. He would if the startlist would be weak, very weak, and that's nearly impossible. The best he can do is finish in the top-10, but I think not in the Tour, I say the Vuelta may be his best chance, but we'll see. Also, Costa may be more experienced than Quintana, but Quintana is far better climber than Rui, had he been in his top form and raced the Tour de Suisse, we would see Rui working for him, and Quintana crushing the others, and I'm pretty sure that this season, racing several WT races, has made Quintana more mature in terms of a rider, and he will develop it in the near future. And when he reaches the 26 years of age, Costa's age, I think he might have already top-3'd in a GT, if not won one. We'll wait and see. |
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| johnnyjur |
Posted on 23-06-2013 14:44
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 23-06-2013 14:45
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Brajkovic?
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 23-06-2013 14:46
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Brajkovic?
Free role, I'm guessing. Suisse was the first sign of life from him all season.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 23-06-2013 19:12
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 FDJ
Thibaut Pinot
 Murilo Fischer
Nacer Bouhanni
William Bonnet
Pierrick Fedrigo
Arthur Vichot
Alexandre Geniez
Jeremy Roy
Arnold Jeanneson
Cool team Delage is missing imo. We probably won't see them in the break every day like before.
Good support for Pinot with Geniez, Fedrigo and Jeanneson. Plus Bonnet is a good guy to bring Bouhanni in position.
And Fedrigo will probably win a stage
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 23-06-2013 23:22
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Eden95 wrote:
What do you guys think about Cofidis' chances? With Navarro, Taaramae and Coppel? Navarro performed very well in the Dauphine compared to Taaramae and Coppel who didn't do so well.
Taaramäe is close to be back with good form..still. I wont believe that he will survive thrue tour..(thanks to fucked up spring again).
Coppel overtrained (Cofidis has been doing everything do destroy theyr season with descent riders)
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| ruben |
Posted on 23-06-2013 23:36
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Taarmae will probably be awesome in the first couple of mountain stages, then we think he'll do well and then suddenly he'll explode without a reason in a later stage |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 24-06-2013 00:59
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Spilak23 wrote:
FDJ
Thibaut Pinot
Murilo Fischer
Nacer Bouhanni
William Bonnet
Pierrick Fedrigo
Arthur Vichot
Alexandre Geniez
Jeremy Roy
Arnold Jeanneson
Cool team Delage is missing imo. We probably won't see them in the break every day like before.
Good support for Pinot with Geniez, Fedrigo and Jeanneson. Plus Bonnet is a good guy to bring Bouhanni in position.
And Fedrigo will probably win a stage
Fedrigo and Roy can do the whole breakaway every stage thing. But with Bouhanni they might not want to anyway, particularly if he shows some real speed in the first couple of sprint stages.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 24-06-2013 02:01
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27incher wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Also, you know that he'll be working for Valverde, right?
Good point. But personally I think he's a stronger GC rider than Valverde and I think he's also a better GC hope than Quintana due to his experience and Quintana subsequent lack of.
I'm not managing Movistar though, so I might have to change my GC prediction to get rid of Costa.
You're allowed to think what you want, but surely being on par with Alberto Contador in the mountains at last years Vuelta, that should be an indication of how strong Valverde is. Remember when everyone thought Contador was going to solo for a stage win, and Valverde just shot up the climb and passed him to take the win in the final 1km?
Costa is a decent GT rider, but he's really on the wrong team if he wants his own shot, because I think he's 3rd in the pecking order on Movistar.
One thing about Quintana is I think his hill and TT ability are sometimes overlooked, in fact he's been a really solid TT rider this year. He's improved his TT a lot from last year. A year or two from now, if he continues to work on his TT, I think he may be one of the big GT contenders.
Edited by valverde321 on 24-06-2013 02:03
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| Farmer Sam |
Posted on 24-06-2013 10:29
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 Euskaltel
Igor Anton
Mikel Nieve
Ion Izagirre
Gorka Izagirre
Mikel Astarloza
Juanjo Oroz
Juanjo Lobato
Romain Sicard
Ruben Perez
Pretty strong Euskaltel team, might even see them giving it a go in the sprints with Lobato. That'd be a sight, a Euskaltel rider winning a bunch kick in the TdF! |
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