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PCM 18 news?
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| Fresh D |
Posted on 18-05-2018 23:06
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Free Agent
Posts: 104
Joined: 08-12-2007
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Seriously, fuck this company. This game is dead.
They are making this game worse every year.
Last year the new layout of the menus and results was laughably bad compared to 2015 version and before, daily form with ridiculous effects, mountain stat calculation messed up, intermediate sprints from 0,5km to the line but mountain sprints 2,5km somehow, race UI immovable, cobble races and other classics laughably bad AI, time gaps of groups completely arbitrarily and not editable like way back in 2010 or so which destroys hilly races in GT's for years now, the career training system and fitness schedules a mess, contract or negotiations also laughably bad for a self-called manager game in its 15th iteration.
Plus the new game will come with hundreds of bugs like every year.
Sry for the rant, I'll still buy it anyway when it's cheaper like a lemming. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-05-2018 00:26
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World Champion
Posts: 10616
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Fresh D wrote:
Seriously, fuck this company. This game is dead.
They are making this game worse every year.
Last year the new layout of the menus and results was laughably bad compared to 2015 version and before, daily form with ridiculous effects, mountain stat calculation messed up, intermediate sprints from 0,5km to the line but mountain sprints 2,5km somehow, race UI immovable, cobble races and other classics laughably bad AI, time gaps of groups completely arbitrarily and not editable like way back in 2010 or so which destroys hilly races in GT's for years now, the career training system and fitness schedules a mess, contract or negotiations also laughably bad for a self-called manager game in its 15th iteration.
Plus the new game will come with hundreds of bugs like every year.
Sry for the rant, I'll still buy it anyway when it's cheaper like a lemming.
Look, I have 500+ hours on PCM17 and I would really like to have a "well I played this game extensively and actually, ..." moment right now and correct false assumptions possibly made from just a few test races, but yeah, all of that is true.
And all of that used to be better in at least one previous edition. It's not just bugs or bad systems carried over for a lack of a solution.
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| clamel |
Posted on 20-05-2018 17:40
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Protected Rider
Posts: 1359
Joined: 13-07-2010
PCM$: 200.00
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In 8 years, Cyanide has successfully added Nationality and possibly repuation influence to negotiations.
Please correct me if i'm wrong... but i can see why i moved away from playing PCM for 200+hours a year to FM
So do I. Why don't they look at FM so they get to understand the word MANAGER. This game goes more and more towards arcade stuff. Be a pro-cyclist is ridicule.
Guess they are too few good personal in the company and perhaps focus on other games. It would have been a dream if FM company bought this and pushed it forward. They understand MANAGER-games, even if they too of course have their bugs to fight with.
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 22-05-2018 20:17
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Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4085
Joined: 26-04-2012
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| Ad Bot |
Posted on 05-12-2025 14:41
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| purepasd |
Posted on 24-05-2018 17:11
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Domestique
Posts: 531
Joined: 23-01-2010
PCM$: 300.00
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It actually looks extremely promising his year. (I mean, even more than usual). Seems like they focused a lot on a manager overhaul, and especially the fitness planner (which reminds me a lot of Lachi's) is finally making sense. Also, a lot of really good AI improvement intentions that will hopefully work out alright. I might even buy the game this year  |
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| georgebooo |
Posted on 01-06-2018 21:09
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Under 23
Posts: 82
Joined: 08-07-2013
PCM$: 200.00
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PCM 2018 is available on Steam (pre order with 10% discount) at https://store.ste...ager_2018/
It says the release date is the 28th of June. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 01-06-2018 21:12
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Team Manager
Posts: 31706
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Or pre-order it for cheaper AND support PCM.daily at the same time: https://uk.gamesplanet.com/game/pro-c...f=pcmdaily
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| georgebooo |
Posted on 01-06-2018 23:48
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Fair enough  |
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| purepasd |
Posted on 02-06-2018 13:30
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Domestique
Posts: 531
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Another dev-blog released a couple of days ago:
https://forums.fo...fer-system |
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| TTtheGladiator |
Posted on 03-06-2018 03:32
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Posts: 142
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For the first time in a long time, I'm excited about a new PCM release. Tempted to pre-order, but I also don't want to be disappointed if the release doesn't live up to what's promised (i.e. previous few years of PCM). I guess the beta testers signed an NDA, but are any about that could potentially sway me one way or the other?
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 06-06-2018 11:52
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Team Leader
Posts: 7422
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If this gets at least OK reactions after release - I think i may have to by it.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-06-2018 13:54
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World Champion
Posts: 13662
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TheManxMissile wrote:
In 8 years, Cyanide has successfully added Nationality and possibly repuation influence to negotiations.
Please correct me if i'm wrong... but i can see why i moved away from playing PCM for 200+hours a year to FM
And meanwhile broke the functional game with very nic gameplay and destroyed many more working features. Good job Cyanide, you are doing best to push all the fans from any will to buy the game one more time. I am not doing it, that is sure.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-06-2018 14:03
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World Champion
Posts: 13662
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And with that in mind and Giro igniting me for cycling again, i have installed 2011 edition and it rocks like it always did. No single PCM after was good as that one, i am clueless why anybody would buy and play new edition when you have a chance to play actually great PCM. (ofc no pro cyclist, that is maybe only downside).
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| purepasd |
Posted on 06-06-2018 14:20
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Domestique
Posts: 531
Joined: 23-01-2010
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
And with that in mind and Giro igniting me for cycling again, i have installed 2011 edition and it rocks like it always did. No single PCM after was good as that one, i am clueless why anybody would buy and play new edition when you have a chance to play actually great PCM. (ofc no pro cyclist, that is maybe only downside).
For me the biggest thing is that there is no current DB.. That's about it i think. 15 is alright as well though |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 15-06-2018 23:19
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https://forums.focus-home.com/topic/7...provements
This all sounds actually really cool. Mid-race attacks 
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15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[PT]  Xero Racing
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 15-06-2018 23:25
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Looks very promising, let's hope that they have gone trough the new system and picked out the most horrible bugs. Or else we will see the nr.2 guy in the GC go for a 150km attack 
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 15-06-2018 23:28
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World Champion
Posts: 11621
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hillis91 wrote:
Looks very promising, let's hope that they have gone trough the new system and picked out the most horrible bugs. Or else we will see the nr.2 guy in the GC go for a 150km attack
are you kidding that's my wet dream 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[PT] Xero Racing
5x x5
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 16-06-2018 01:19
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Tour de France Champion
Posts: 16552
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hillis91 wrote:
Looks very promising, let's hope that they have gone trough the new system and picked out the most horrible bugs. Or else we will see the nr.2 guy in the GC go for a 150km attack
Exactly my thoughts. The ideas are promising, but at launch it will no doubt be a buggy mess, especially since Cyanide has a chance to overcorrect issues in their AI.
That being said, my hope is after a patch or two we have a solid improvement to the series, one I might even consider getting for the first time since 2015.
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| Yellow Jersey |
Posted on 16-06-2018 10:46
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Classics Specialist
Posts: 2809
Joined: 16-04-2013
PCM$: 900.00
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I know I may be naive.. but the first PCM i bought was 12, followed by 14, 16 and 17 so I never got to play 10 and 11 (wich I think most of you consider the best). And I do feel like 17 brought a much better racing with the new race energy system. Yeah the cobbles and hills are broken but I don't mind cause it forces me to push myself harder and race smarter and better.. If it's easy where's the fun (and i play at 1.15 dificulty).
And honestly I'm very excited for this one, specially after reading that article. A cycling race isn't something you can completely mimmick into a game, but as I play it I feel they've done a preety good job, and if all those improvements do work fine I think I'll keep genuinely enjoying playing (i do expect bugs tho).
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| Thatguyeveryonehates |
Posted on 22-06-2018 18:49
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Domestique
Posts: 447
Joined: 01-05-2014
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im starting to look at the streams of it on youtube
so far i can see promotion/relegation has been changed to riders points not the team
on october 25th after the transfers are made each teams points are tallied up and that decides who is in which division
instead of the points each team scored the previous season |
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