TheManxMissile wrote:


Dont like the word suspicious. Its surprising, but not out of the blue.
It suspicious when a test gets missed or the result not reported.

Wiggins put 1'30ish into Evans in the Dauphine. Sky said he had more to give, and put 1'43ish into Evans today. Not evidence for not doping, but makes it less surprising (wiggins at least)

Coop wrote:



Pretty sure Armstrong and Postal/Disco used that same story. What's your feelings on them?

baseballlover312 wrote:

What was Froome's "excellent TT result". I know riders obviously progress. But you don't go from almost getting eliminated in a time trial to dominating Cancellara.

felix_29 wrote:


Do you think Armstrong and Froome were/are doping or not? Your signature is confusing.

baseballlover312 wrote:
I think that issoisso and Aquarius talk sense. I was a blind Armstrong fanboy until recentley, when I hated them for making good points. However, they convinced me with liable facts and I now understand fully and am not such a loyal idiot. So I thank them, and enjoy reading their post that I used to think were arrogant now.

P.S. I know the sig is still up, but i wanted the whole sig because I want to fill up my sig space until I find something else to put there.

TheManxMissile wrote:


Veulta 2011

sutty68 wrote:


The whole team were dopers as we already know

TheManxMissile wrote:
So Cancellara doped back in 2004 when he won the opening prologue out of nowhere?
I mean he had to beat someone already doped

Likkivi wrote:
Took this from another site:

Gert Leinders, Sky,s Team Dr Has an "Interesting" History.
Forums elswhere are buzzing with incredulity at whats going on and the desciption "UK Postal" is geting used and it most certainly aint a compliment. ....and then we have this little revelation : "Leinders was team doctor for Sigma, Histor, Panasonic and Lotto before becoming team doctor for Rabobank in 1996. He left Rabobank in 2009 citing 'dissatisfaction with the policies of the new management of the cycling team'. According to Rabobank one of those new policies bought in between 2007 and July 2009 was a 'zero tolerance' attitude to doping, a policy that followed an internal investigation into the use of doping within the team during the period Leinders was the team doctor, an investigation that was triggered by Michael Rasmussen’s expulsion from the Tour de France"

There's the evidence.

Rin wrote:
Froome reminds me a bit of Stefan Schumacher:

- At youth etc. no results at all
- Were at the beginning in a team that had a diffrent thinking wise about doping
- Are at a team with suspicious people -> riders or staff
- Surprising a lot by taking Tour stages and doing very very well in TTs

jph27 wrote:


That is Wiggins level since 2009. Same time Aicar started being mentioned, I believe, in the year of the anorexic looking GC contenders.

lluuiiggii wrote:

Out of nowhere?? Look at his results before that. Twice Juniors ITT world champion, 2nd place in U23 ITT WC in 2000, national TT champion twice by then, had won several prologues and ITTs including Tour de Suisse and Romandie`s prologue in 2003.. I've no idea where you got the "out of nowhere" from.

lluuiiggii wrote:

Out of nowhere?? Look at his results before that. Twice Juniors ITT world champion, 2nd place in U23 ITT WC in 2000, national TT champion twice by then, had won several prologues and ITTs including Tour de Suisse and Romandie`s prologue in 2003.. I've no idea where you got the "out of nowhere" from.

TheManxMissile wrote:
So Cancellara doped back in 2004 when he won the opening prologue out of nowhere?
I mean he had to beat someone already doped

baseballlover312 wrote:
Froome was 11 minutes out of the 08 TT.

He was out for two years with illness. Comes back to astound in the Vuelta before crushing in the tour.

Sound familiar? It's almost the exact same story. Why is it so hard for people to read when it comes to Froome.