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TdF'13 Stage 10: Saint-Gildas-des-Bois to Saint-Malo (July 9)
Spilak23
Bearo99 wrote:
Just like to add that there was a dreadful lead-out from OPQS. Seemed as if they got bunched out and nobody tried but Steegmans to help Cav. Just saw Reza got 8th, brilliant job from him too!


Steegmans went first through that last corner, it was Cav who didn't follow.
 
alexkr00
Mwuhi wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
krisa wrote:
NOT smart of veelers to drop himself out just in the middle of the peloton


This.

Slowing down like that in a mass sprint. What the hell was he doing?

Doesn't mean Cav had to go the left there. I assume he saw Veelers there, so he just had to wait 1 more second, but he didn't want to, because he was to far in the back.

That's his problem, but it shouldn't mean he may suddenly go the left without having place there.


If I'm not mistaken there was a slightly turn to the left
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doddy13
baseballlover312 wrote:
Deliberate.

This was Renshaw's.
He bumped Dean with his head.

Then take a look at what Cav just did. If Veelers is hurt, then i should definetly be a dq.


It's been replayed over and over again. Cavendish was just stupid by going into Veelers, I think it's quite evident that was wasn't deliberate.

A DQ would be a huge overreaction from the commisaires here, it was an accident, if Cav appologises then a relegation and fine would suffice.
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Miguel98
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
That wasnt intentional. Cav tried to cut back into slipstream. Also that Argos rider was very waywood


Even if it wasn't intentional, Cav is clearly at fault here. And that Veelers is Kittel's leadout man, so he has every reason to be up there.


He is at fault there, as was Greiper for the Stage 1 crash. But saying he should be thrown out of the Tour is an overreaction.


Nothing would've happened if Cav sprinted in a straight line. It looked like he didn't even see Veelers and tried to go straight through him.


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wogsrus
baseballlover312 wrote:
Deliberate.

This was Renshaw's.



He bumped Dean with his head.

Then take a look at what Cav just did. If Veelers is hurt, then i should definetly be a dq.
Shouldn't matter if he is hurt. Can just change severity of a decision because somebody has more of an injury or less.
 
Mwuhi
alexkr00 wrote:
Mwuhi wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
krisa wrote:
NOT smart of veelers to drop himself out just in the middle of the peloton


This.

Slowing down like that in a mass sprint. What the hell was he doing?

Doesn't mean Cav had to go the left there. I assume he saw Veelers there, so he just had to wait 1 more second, but he didn't want to, because he was to far in the back.

That's his problem, but it shouldn't mean he may suddenly go the left without having place there.


If I'm not mistaken there was a slightly turn to the left


You're right, but they were already passed that turn.
 
Kirchen_75
Spilak23 wrote:
Bearo99 wrote:
Just like to add that there was a dreadful lead-out from OPQS. Seemed as if they got bunched out and nobody tried but Steegmans to help Cav. Just saw Reza got 8th, brilliant job from him too!


Steegmans went first through that last corner, it was Cav who didn't follow.


Velits and Terpstra finished their turns WAY too early. Leaving Trentin Steegmans and Cavendish with 2km to go. Trentin tried to tuck in behind Lotto. Failed Steegmans did very well to drag past lotto and argos train but it was a bit too early Cav dropped behind Greipel.
 
ianrussell
Ahh Veelers just realised Kittel wasn't on his wheel no mechanical then Cav thinks he will peel left he then peels right slightly as Cav goes to the left (too tight anyway) and takes him out. Messy and a mistake but not malicious I think. Be interesting to see what they do... Grin
 
baseballlover312
Cav made a move into him. I'm not really sure why.

Does Cav have something with Veelers? I thought it was Ferrari for a sec, then a realized that he isn't on Argos and I was like. Why?
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Spilak23
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out
 
baseballlover312
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!
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Bearo99
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Bearo99 wrote:
Just like to add that there was a dreadful lead-out from OPQS. Seemed as if they got bunched out and nobody tried but Steegmans to help Cav. Just saw Reza got 8th, brilliant job from him too!


Steegmans went first through that last corner, it was Cav who didn't follow.


Velits and Terpstra finished their turns WAY too early. Leaving Trentin Steegmans and Cavendish with 2km to go. Trentin tried to tuck in behind Lotto. Failed Steegmans did very well to drag past lotto and argos train but it was a bit too early Cav dropped behind Greipel.


As you said, very early from Steegmans. With time the sprint train will evidently prove, given the fact this is the first big tour in 2013 where all the main sprinters have been present (Griepel, Kittlel, Sagan) they have a bit of an excuse.
 
Spilak23
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Maybe if you turn off your Cav-hate you might be able to give a reasonable answer
 
Kirchen_75
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Totally agree with Spilak. Totally disagree with you
 
Andreas93
Moronic move by Veelers, intentionally blocking Cav. You can't just stop racing in the middle of the road like that.
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Spilak23
Ferrari's move is 10x worse as this and he wasn't thrown out the Giro
 
admirschleck
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

bblover is right here. Cav should be thrown out! Veelers was going on straight line (repeat video multiple times to see that,please!) and Cav, for some unknown reason (not saying that he wanted to do that) gone left and cleaned up him from road.

Clean as Froome's win this year.
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wogsrus


Edited by wogsrus on 09-07-2013 17:10
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Spilak23 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Veelers moved slightly to the left, Cav moved slightly to the right. They hit each other and Veelers crashed because he was easing up after doing his work. No need to throw Cav out


You obviously weren't watching.

Come on. Someone has to be with me. You don't take a guy out and get away with it. Cycling isn't a contact sport!


Maybe if you turn off your Cav-hate you might be able to give a reasonable answer


Nah, give him a break, I'd say I kinda like Cav but I think that looked malicious. Dick move from Veelers for sure, but not the way to deal with it.
 
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