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| cunego59 |
Posted on 21-02-2013 17:47
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cunego59 wrote:
So, new DB, new career  I'm currently planning the first season for Ag2r. I've never played with them before but it looks like a very interesting team. Pozzovivo will do the Giro and the Vuelta, hopefully achieving at least one Top 5 overall. Gadret and Dupont for the Tour, Hutarovich as well. Goal is the polkadots and maybe some podiums in sprints and breakaways. Nocentini goes for the classics, partly supported by Betancourt. Peraud for one week stage races. The main goal for the first season is to stay in the World Tour, and then improve from season to season. I'm aiming for a strong French-German team in the long run. Looking forward to it a lot!
I'm having a really good start I signed Linus Gerdemann and he thanked me for it by winning the Tour Down Under. Dumoulin 10th, and a couple of Top 5s in sprints. A nice success and big step in the WT rankings. Now off to the continental races!
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| LLDS |
Posted on 21-02-2013 18:52
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lluuiiggii wrote:
LLDS wrote:
I suppose that if I install the 2013 database I can not play my actual career and a new career based on 2013 database in the same time  .
I must give up my actual career ?
If you had PCMDaily's 2012 DB and will now install the 2013 one, I can't think of a reason why your career shouldn't work anymore  If it was with another DB, then the possible problems are the same as always (fact that you want to install a 2013 DB doesn't change that much).
I have the PCM 2012 database (the original one with changed names and so on).
I am new and I don't know how to install a new database and be able to play with 2 database in the same time. Could you send me a link to a topic about this, please ? I searched but I didn't found. |
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 21-02-2013 20:50
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LLDS wrote:
I have the PCM 2012 database (the original one with changed names and so on).
I am new and I don't know how to install a new database and be able to play with 2 database in the same time. Could you send me a link to a topic about this, please ? I searched but I didn't found.
You mean you've never installed any custom DB? If yes it should be even less of a problem installing Daily's  (when people say "it's not advised to install 2 DBs", they mean 2 custom ones, thus not counting the Official Release.. even because you can't choose whether or not you want to install the Official Release )
On making multiple installations to install more than one DB:
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_520132
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-02-2013 15:40
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Just played a great Milano - San Remo! Had a strong team led by Gilbert and Degenkolb. Forgot to pay attention and the break had created a gap of 15' on top of La Manie when I started chasing like hell. Brought the gap down to 7 at the start of the Cipressa when Gilbert attacked. He went fast like hell and had come in 1'30" from the remaining leaders Caruso and Bruseghin at the foot of Cipressa. He just (meters) wasn't fast enough to pass the rememnants from the break before the small Poggio road leading to him not going full gas for the first kilometre. He came within 25" after the descent to just missing out on the win by metres. Degenkolb was very strong and could follow the Radioshack trio of Cancellara, Ballan and Horner when they dropped everybody else on the cipressa to sprint past Cancellara to take 4th 20" after the winner. Have a feeling he could have actually won if he started his sprint from 1.5 kilometre out.
Didn't get the win but was just a great intense final.
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| LLDS |
Posted on 23-02-2013 09:28
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This is how Cancellara is in the 2014 season.
I know, I have the original DB, but after 2 seasons is difficult to give up at this career. I want to play a few more races before change the DB and play it properly .
P.S. : Obviously, the training is not TT anymore.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 26-02-2013 22:11
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Changed to 2013 and started a career with FDJ. What a future my team will have!
Peaked with some of the best riders to Paris-Nice. Demare came just short against Davis for a sprint win but the results got better. Pinot and Casar (who had great daily form) were the strongest in Mende riding away from the favourites together with Rodriguez. Too bad a break took the win. Pinot led the overal with 1" on Casar and 15" on Rodriguez before he won the final stage taking a great overal win. Tirreno is harder with only Roy as decent rider though Ladagnous came very close to a stage win just losing out to Taborre in a sprint. (Had probably won hadn't I forgot to sprint for points and mountains resulting in him chasing his companions 3 times )
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-02-2013 09:43
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Nice 
FDJ has some pretty great riders, actually! Normally I'm not really into French teams, though. Team Europcar being the biggest exception in history |
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-02-2013 09:46
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So first I had a career with Blanco going, but that wasn't challenging enough. So I restarted with the worst team in the DB, Hincapie sports wear.
Only had some wins from breakaways and mainly with Joey Rosskopf.
Spent a lot of time scouting and hopefully my new trainees do a lot better |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 27-02-2013 10:04
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playing on extreme. started with saxo bank-tinkoff bank (or whatever they´re called). I´m not playing with 2013 db, it is the 2012 daily DB or something like that.
In 2012 contador came: 1st in tour de meditarreneen, 1st in vuelta a andalucia, 1st in paris-nice, 3rd in dauphine, 1st in tour of slovenia, 1st in Tour de france (with 3 seconds) and 3rd in vuelta. he was 5th in lombardia and 3rd in clasica san sebastian.
Nuyens came 4th in ghent-wevelgem, tour of flanders and paris-roubaix.
In 2013 we became Geox-Tinkoff bank
In 2013 Contador won giro della calabria, Tirreno-adriatico, Dauphine libere, Tour de france, national TT and RR championships (spain, not the worlds), 2nd in clasica san sebastian, 2nd in vuelta
Taylor phinney came 4th in Paris roubaix, won the TT of three days on de panne, came 2nd in tour de france prologue, won the american TT championships.
Nuyens came 1st in three days of de panne, 2nd i dwars door vlaanderen, 4th in tour of flanders and 4th in ghent-wevelgem. it´s time to get a podium place in a big classic I think
Gesink came 4th in giro di italia and 3rd in tour de suisse
Now I´m into season 2014. let see how we deal with that Gesink was in vuelta too in 2013 but he crashed and got injured.
The hardest thing is for contador to win a double. both the tour and the vuelta. he can´t keep the form up, since he has peaked with level 5 for paris-nice, level 6 for the tdf and then try to rest a bit and get a top game again. I know I have to give up tirreno adriatico in order to win the double but I´m not sure Í want to do that. It´s about price money as well. |
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| LLDS |
Posted on 27-02-2013 10:11
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If you want to win 2 GT you must put only 2 peaks. Or you can try Paris-Nice, Giro and Vuelta, because you have more time between Giro and Vuelta.
I don't know what DB do you have, but in the original DB for 2012, Contador starts losing stats from one season to another. He is weaker in 2013 than in 2012 and weaker in 2014 than in 2013. |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 27-02-2013 15:09
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I know about that, but I want Contador to win the Tour. I´m not playing with the original db with fake names. It´s pcmdailyexpansionpack 1400.
I also has the evolution of riders set to 0.6 contador is 30 years now and will develop for two more years to come in TT,Hill and some recovery shit stats. If I win the TDF in 2014 and 2015 that´ll make him with 6 TDF wins including real life and excluding 2010 when he got caught. so in 2016 I can go for the giro-vuelta maybe. |
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 28-02-2013 07:28
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Well, it should be very hard to win two consecutive grand tours
Maybe you can try a schedule like this to keep the race days limited to 69:
Ruta del Sol
Clasica de Almeria
Vuelta a Murcia
Tirreno - Adriatico
Tour de Suisse
Spanish Championships TT & RR
Tour de France
Clasica San Sebastian
Vuelta a España
But I guess the fitness schedule will still be your main challenge, maybe only a level 6 peak on the heaviest Tour week can resolve that. |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 28-02-2013 08:25
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I see your point. but the hard thing is to keep the form up between the tour and vuelta. but it´s an interesting thing actually. but like u said, the fitness schedule will be hard I don´t know if I want to spoil it |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-02-2013 08:49
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I reckon fitness in the Vuelta matters a bit less since the AI has a much worse form. So maybe you can start there with a bad form, if the form gets better in week 2 and 3, you can still easily win. |
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| LLDS |
Posted on 28-02-2013 10:40
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Ian Butler wrote:
I reckon fitness in the Vuelta matters a bit less since the AI has a much worse form. So maybe you can start there with a bad form, if the form gets better in week 2 and 3, you can still easily win.
I don't know if it's true.
I saw Andy Schleck winning Vuelta although he had more than 110 race days (so his race fitness was very, very bad). More than that, he had a very busy season, with a peak in spring and another in Tour, so I think he had much fatigue also. Theoretically, his total fitness had to be below 75 (75/80 fitness training + 0/20 race fitness), even below 70, but he won some stages in the last weak on Vuelta like nothing happened. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 28-02-2013 10:53
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Yup, but that's because everyone's fitness is bad then, but that's exactly my point. You can make sure your fitness is a tad better, let's say in the 80s easily. You don't need a Tour-fitness in the Vuelta, simply because the AI's fitness is much, much worse. |
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 28-02-2013 11:01
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Blueprint wrote:
Well, it should be very hard to win two consecutive grand tours
Maybe you can try a schedule like this to keep the race days limited to 69:
Ruta del Sol
Clasica de Almeria
Vuelta a Murcia
Tirreno - Adriatico
Tour de Suisse
Spanish Championships TT & RR
Tour de France
Clasica San Sebastian
Vuelta a España
But I guess the fitness schedule will still be your main challenge, maybe only a level 6 peak on the heaviest Tour week can resolve that.
If you really want to win two Grand Tours, you should drop the rest. I mean, isn't 1st Tour and 1st Vuelta better than 2nd Tirreno, 1st Tour, 3rd Vuelta or something similar? Then you could do something like
Dauphiné
Slovenie
NCs
Tour (with 14 prep days)
Eneco Tour
Tour du Limousin
Vuelta (with 12 prep days)
You would enter both GTs with a really good shape already and finish the Vuelta with 68 race days, which would even allow you to enter the WCs and Lombardia with a decent form.
But that's just my opinion, I like it better to concentrate on fewer peaks but then do really good there.
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| LLDS |
Posted on 28-02-2013 11:53
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Ian Butler wrote:
Yup, but that's because everyone's fitness is bad then, but that's exactly my point. You can make sure your fitness is a tad better, let's say in the 80s easily. You don't need a Tour-fitness in the Vuelta, simply because the AI's fitness is much, much worse.
My riders had a 95-98 fitness value in the last weak of Vuelta. I made a fitness training plan where Vuelta was an objective. As you see, the difference between Schelck's fitness and my riders' fitness was more than 20 points. |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 28-02-2013 13:46
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If you really want to win two Grand Tours, you should drop the rest. I mean, isn't 1st Tour and 1st Vuelta better than 2nd Tirreno, 1st Tour, 3rd Vuelta or something similar? Then you could do something like
the thing is I usually win the T- or P-N and not onlyt hat but also giro della calabria and vuelta a andalucia(I have won those two so far in 2014 season). I usually win dauphine as well. I know it seems weird but I like that as well. t´s not bad if a rider wins stage races and comes 2nd in vuelta. And I know how to train for both GT if I drop the spring season, but thx anyway.
This season I´ll do what I´ve done before, but for next season I will thinkabout it more. The thing is, if I win the Tour this season and next season he´s won TDF, including irl, 6 times. There´s no point in winning one more, so for 2016 I´ll probably aim for the giro-vuelta double which is way easier to do.
´l let you know how season 2014 goes. in 2013 I was in 33 sec behind. this year I will decrease contadors race schedule by 2 days so I might get a liiiiiittle difference |
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| yoejo |
Posted on 28-02-2013 13:47
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it was supposed to say: it´s not bad if a rider wins 5-6 stage races |
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