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| fernando97 |
Posted on 21-08-2012 23:48
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Shouldn't we start calling this sport Skycling?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 21-08-2012 23:49
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And it's official, Sky have signed Sagan too. It is also said Sky will start cloning there riders and then signing them aswell.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:01
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It's not like they signed the world best rider. You guys are overrating him. He is a young talent who got some good results in the U23 category but still has to prove everything.
I understand his choice though. Iirc he could choose between three teams
Team A has just won the Tour due to the best teamwork seen in years.
Team B has probably the most talent of all teams but can't get good results because of management, sporting directors and cyclist not working together very well.
Team C has hasn't signed any riders yet because their future is probably uncertain.
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baseballlover312 wrote:
And it's official, Sky have signed Sagan too. It is also said Sky will start cloning there riders and then signing them aswell.
And they don't sign the best riders in the world with their money. They sign riders they believe have potential and use their money to give them all the resources to fully use that potential.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:03
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Teamwork? Okay. I guess your right. He loves the teamwork of not developing into a future GT winner and working in a mountain train for a Kenyan spider.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:04
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Spilak23 wrote:
And they don't sign the best riders in the world with their money. They sign riders they believe have potential and use their money to give them all the resources to fully use that potential.
Cunego. Gilbert. Cavendish. Hagen. Wiggins.
All riders they made offers to.
EDIT: I can't recall the exact numbers from the recently released accounts but I believe it's 2.7Million they spent on transfers the past year alone. That's a Pro Conti team's budget just on signing fees.
Edited by issoisso on 22-08-2012 00:05
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:04
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Teamwork? Okay. I guess your right. He loves the teamwork of not developing into a future GT winner and working in a mountain train for a Kenyan spider.
how does working for someone mean he'll never be a GT winner?
he still rides, still gets experience, still gets better
then either inherits the role as wiggins and froome move on
or moves on himself
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:05
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As for Dombrowski, let him go wherever the heck he wants.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:06
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Teamwork? Okay. I guess your right. He loves the teamwork of not developing into a future GT winner and working in a mountain train for a Kenyan spider.
You think he should go to a team where he can lead the team in a GT next year? Really?
I don't even think he would have raced a GT next year. Whatever team he had signed with.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:07
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Sad to see he'll have to wait until he's in his late twenties to get an oppurtunity if that. He's gone...
Well I guess that leaves TJVG and Talansky here.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:08
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issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
And they don't sign the best riders in the world with their money. They sign riders they believe have potential and use their money to give them all the resources to fully use that potential.
Cunego. Gilbert. Cavendish. Hagen. Wiggins.
All riders they made offers to.
EDIT: I can't recall the exact numbers from the recently released accounts but I believe it's 2.7Million they spent on transfers the past year alone. That's a Pro Conti team's budget just on signing fees.
and what about BMC or RSNT or Katusha or now SaxoBank?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:09
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and no, I don't think he should lead a GT next year. But he could be tested in smaller WT races and be a main luitenent, get breakaway oppurtunities and gain leadership experience.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:09
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TheManxMissile wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
And they don't sign the best riders in the world with their money. They sign riders they believe have potential and use their money to give them all the resources to fully use that potential.
Cunego. Gilbert. Cavendish. Hagen. Wiggins.
All riders they made offers to.
EDIT: I can't recall the exact numbers from the recently released accounts but I believe it's 2.7Million they spent on transfers the past year alone. That's a Pro Conti team's budget just on signing fees.
and what about BMC or RSNT or Katusha or now SaxoBank?
Why, did someone here make the boast that those teams don't try to sign top riders?
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:11
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baseballlover312 wrote:
and no, I don't think he should lead a GT next year. But he could be tested in smaller WT races and be a main luitenent, get breakaway oppurtunities and gain leadership experience.
not for a first year
maybe later in the year in the higher level conti races but he would never lead at p-n, t-a, or pais vasco
maybe catal but no WT would 'risk' it
breaks yes, leadership no
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:12
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issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
And they don't sign the best riders in the world with their money. They sign riders they believe have potential and use their money to give them all the resources to fully use that potential.
Cunego. Gilbert. Cavendish. Hagen. Wiggins.
All riders they made offers to.
EDIT: I can't recall the exact numbers from the recently released accounts but I believe it's 2.7Million they spent on transfers the past year alone. That's a Pro Conti team's budget just on signing fees.
Cavendish wanted to go their, otherwise he would have signed with Quick-Step, won 8 TdF stages with full team support and a way bigger paycheck.
Wiggins wanted to go there, he begged Vaughters to let him go.
Hagen wanted out of the team HTC (because of Cavendish, a bit ironic now but also because of Greipel)
Gilbert signed for way more money with BMC and Cunego is still riding with the same team he joined in 2002 where he can do whatever he wants to do.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:13
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I said be tested, meaning they could bring him to Catalunya and let him roam free to test the waters, not lead. I can't see a single opp at Sky for the next 3-4 years at least.
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:13
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baseballlover312 wrote:
and no, I don't think he should lead a GT next year. But he could be tested in smaller WT races and be a main luitenent, get breakaway oppurtunities and gain leadership experience.
Who says he won't get those chances? Henao got a chance to lead the team in Pais Vasco this year.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:14
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And Henao is not going anywhere, is he? 
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:15
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issoisso wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
And they don't sign the best riders in the world with their money. They sign riders they believe have potential and use their money to give them all the resources to fully use that potential.
Cunego. Gilbert. Cavendish. Hagen. Wiggins.
All riders they made offers to.
EDIT: I can't recall the exact numbers from the recently released accounts but I believe it's 2.7Million they spent on transfers the past year alone. That's a Pro Conti team's budget just on signing fees.
and what about BMC or RSNT or Katusha or now SaxoBank?
Why, did someone here make the boast that those teams don't try to sign top riders?
no, just that sky arnt the only ones who try to get all the big riders
sky; Cavs (leaving), wiggins ermm flecha? Froome wasnt, thomas wasnt, swift wasnt, uran wasnt etc.
BMC; ballan, gilbert, evans, hushovd
rsnt; schleckx2, cancellara
Saxobank; contador, kreuziger
Astana; nibali
its not just sky was my point
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:24
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Oh boo-hoo one team is going all in during the transfer season to replace their most talented rider... It just means the peleton is less evenly spread, and things will be all the sweeter when someone else can take the spotlight right?
I hate Sky (besides their roster) too, but every little thing they do causes a storm round here nowadays and clogs things up.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 22-08-2012 00:26
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Replace who? Cav isn't a climber. 
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