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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-04-2013 14:40
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Jesleyh wrote:
Doesn't J-Rod have 70 TT?
Well, I'm probably wrong in that case 
Maybe now, not sure. But he's had below 70 below in many DBs.
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| depeche92 |
Posted on 28-04-2013 14:52
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Malori deserves higher TT stats than 75 ( I'd put him in the 77 or 78 group) |
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 28-04-2013 17:11
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In Top-SPR, What do you think??
I think this:
Cavendish 82
Greipel 81
Kittel 81
Sagan 80
Degenkolb 80
Guardini 79
Bouhanni 78
Demare 78
Kristoff 77/78 |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-04-2013 17:41
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No. 
1. Where's Goss? He should at least be equal to Kittel.
2. Greipel = Cav
3. Degenkolb should be 79
4. I think Bouhanni & Kristoff are okay at 78
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 28-04-2013 19:00
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Here i am Jesly - I have a life 
Alizdeh - know who mean, agree, but no more than 71-72. Also we don't base results off of one race
Campagnaro - exactly, very little in 2012, and 2013 still unimpressive to me.
Sulzberger - not impressive amount of CQ (less than some you said should be dropped), and almost all from .2 or NE events
Razumov - Small(ish) NE races. Perhaps make him better than other Russians or the other Russians worse. He has no real results outside of Russia, so can't be straight compared to other Europeans
STOP talking about AVG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Acevedo - 71MO is loads for a good San Luis because of form in the early season. Colombia does not impress me and links well with the 71. Also remember that the South American season runs differently to the European season on which PCM is based around.
Haga - Is fine for the small US races he is now doing well in
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-04-2013 19:10
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Here i am Jesly - I have a life
Alizdeh - know who mean, agree, but no more than 71-72. Also we don't base results off of one race
Campagnaro - exactly, very little in 2012, and 2013 still unimpressive to me.
Sulzberger - not impressive amount of CQ (less than some you said should be dropped), and almost all from .2 or NE events
Razumov - Small(ish) NE races. Perhaps make him better than other Russians or the other Russians worse. He has no real results outside of Russia, so can't be straight compared to other Europeans
STOP talking about AVG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Acevedo - 71MO is loads for a good San Luis because of form in the early season. Colombia does not impress me and links well with the 71. Also remember that the South American season runs differently to the European season on which PCM is based around.
Haga - Is fine for the small US races he is now doing well in
I have a life as well, don't worry about that
And I agree that I might use AVG a bit too much, but it can determine perfectly if a rider is useless or not, normally(unless he's a fighter/TTist). But okay, I should've said their normal skills.
Campagnaro
Still can't see why you can't boost him. It aren't a lot of races, but still, his current skills aren't enough.
Sulzberger
The others that should be dropped might have more CQ points, but they got them in f.e. 2011.
Razumov
Well, at least he's one of the better guys of the team. And Ster ZLM is Dutch
Acevedo
Ok, I'd settle for 71/72 MO.
Haga
Well, we won't agree, but it's ok for now...
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 28-04-2013 19:12
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Is Sayar the DB? He should get an upgrade, unless he's doped ofc. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-04-2013 19:14
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Miguel98 wrote:
Is Sayar the DB? He should get an upgrade, unless he's doped ofc.
Yes, he is, though he's a free agent of course...
Gave him an update in my own DB, he's rubbish, but it was hard to determine what skills he should get...
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 28-04-2013 19:17
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If it was me, an update to MO to 70 and HIL to 71. I think that should be fine + ofc, secondary stats. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-04-2013 19:18
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Miguel98 wrote:
If it was me, an update to MO to 70 and HIL to 71. I think that should be fine + ofc, secondary stats.
Yes, he's close to that on my DB, just hill & MO reversed...
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 28-04-2013 20:04
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Acevedo 71 MO for an 8th in San Luis? Are you keeping in mind that the winner and 3rd place in that race have respectively 68 and 66 MO? And how exactly is 49th in GC good in Vuelta a Colombia?
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-04-2013 20:08
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Acevedo 71 MO for an 8th in San Luis? Are you keeping in mind that the winner and 3rd place in that race have respectively 68 and 66 MO? And how exactly is 49th in GC good in Vuelta a Colombia?
No, I guess I overlooked that. Those guys need a boost as well, btw
And I was talking about the stage-rankings in Colombia.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 28-04-2013 21:16
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Jesleyh wrote:
lluuiiggii wrote:
Acevedo 71 MO for an 8th in San Luis? Are you keeping in mind that the winner and 3rd place in that race have respectively 68 and 66 MO? And how exactly is 49th in GC good in Vuelta a Colombia?
No, I guess I overlooked that. Those guys need a boost as well, btw
And I was talking about the stage-rankings in Colombia.
That's exactly my point, it's not those guys needing a boost, it's that you don't need 71 MO to be 8th in San Luis. In fact, Diniz (the 3rd place in San Luis) was added to the DB only because of his 3rd place in San Luis (and because I know what kind of rider and how strong he is), so his 66 in MO is exactly because of San Luis (rather than the opposite, where'd he would already have 66 MO, then place 3rd in San Luis, in which case his stats would be 'outdated' ).
It's mainly the fact that, as TMM pointed out, the South American season runs differently to the European/North American, who in January are just coming out of their break (winter). So these smaller riders can do well in San Luis because they are peaking for it against European riders in shit form. Unless you want to convince me that Daniel Diaz and Alex Diniz are about as just good climbers as Contador and Nibali
As for Vuelta a Colombia, I don't think 2 Top 10s are much impressive when he didn't do quite well in the other main stages. Plus the stages he Top 10'd didn't really finish on a considerable climb (the 98-rider peloton reaching the finish of the stage 3 tells it wasn't so hard either ).
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 28-04-2013 21:19
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Uppsss, I forgot M. Goss -> 80 |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 28-04-2013 21:21
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Okay, thanks for the info Lluuiiggii(and TMM ofc )
I think those discussions can really make the DB better
Anyway, Acevedo was already given 70 MO by the DB-makers, so you can't call 71 MO thát ridiculous(maybe only the fact that I wanted his stats higher )
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 02-05-2013 19:47
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Eeckhout has 18 victories by June in my career. Time to put his stats down. 70 for Sprint and Cobbles is better, might even be too generous.
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 02-05-2013 19:50
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Spilak23 wrote:
Eeckhout has 18 victories by June in my career. Time to put his stats down. 70 for Sprint and Cobbles is better, might even be too generous.
Will probably be put down a bit in the next update anyway, put him down in my stats suggestions as well. Although his sprint is still okay-ish in my version.
So I agree with you
Edited by Jesleyh on 02-05-2013 19:54
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 02-05-2013 20:44
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AiZaK wrote:
In Top-SPR, What do you think??
I think this:
Cavendish 82
Greipel 81
Kittel 81
Sagan 80
Degenkolb 80
Guardini 79
Bouhanni 78
Demare 78
Kristoff 77/78
Cav=Greipel 82(Cav better ACC)
Sagan and Degenkolb are not 80 I think 79 . They are good in sprints because the hills/cobbles don't tire them .
Goss is 80 .
Bouhanni does not deserve 78 yet I think 77 is ok . Kristoff 77 . Viviani 77 too .
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 04-05-2013 12:37
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Gavazzi (Mattia form Androni) his hill stat should be upped to 68-69.
Weening's hill stat should go from 77 to 76. He is equal to Gianpaolo Caruso. He is also better as Spilak which he clearly wasn't in Pais Vasco.
Spilak's stats were fine but after Romandie should be upped to 77 MO/HI with a small sprint and flat boost aswell. Plus good supporting stats ofcourse.
Also Julian Dean is retired. (Wrong thread I know)
Edited by Spilak23 on 04-05-2013 12:46
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 04-05-2013 12:42
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Also, Sinkeldam needs a small sprint boost
And Weening was just awesome at the Ardennes! (Not even always result-wise, he was a great helper )
Edited by Jesleyh on 04-05-2013 15:45
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