2013 Vuelta a Espana - Week 3 (8th September - 15th September)
|
|
Ad Bot |
Posted on 25-11-2024 13:31
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
IP: None |
|
|
Shonak |
Posted on 14-09-2013 20:54
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
Joined: 16-07-2013
PCM$: 350.00
|
Is it true that Chris Horner didn't even know the Angliru and only just informed himself in the Internet once before the stage/Vuelta? One of the german Eurosport commentators said something like that.
Edited by Shonak on 14-09-2013 20:54
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
|
|
|
|
Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 20:54
|
World Champion
Posts: 10497
Joined: 23-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
dienblad wrote:
The positive thing about today's stage, is that I saw a great battle between 2 cyclists for the GC-win. Nibali gave me hope that he could crack Horner, but one moment ruined it all. Think it was with about 3km to go, when he was just smiling during a 20%-piece. That moment I realized that he just had been playing and would launch his attack.
But as I tend to see things positive ( ), I now want to start training to win the Vuelta 2020, also at the age of 41. With the right preparation, it must be possible. That is the most important lesson I learned today: it's not about the age, it is all about the preparation!
41, no sign of weakness in 3 weeks against 3 of the best GT-riders (Nibali, Rodriguez, Valverde), and laughing at them while simply humiliating them. I just hope he gets caught. Even Froome looks clean compared to him....
Does somebody know about the Watts?
Post above yours. |
|
|
|
FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 21:01
|
Grand Tour Specialist
Posts: 4573
Joined: 07-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Horner higher than Froome? I'll rephrase that; A 41 year-old higher than the man who won the Tour by 5 minutes.
So disappointed, thought that Nibali could crack him at one stage. I hope he gets caught sooner, rather than later... |
|
|
|
Spilak23 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 22:17
|
Team Leader
Posts: 7357
Joined: 22-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
There has not been enough bashing on Astana tactics today.
|
|
|
|
Atlantius |
Posted on 14-09-2013 22:24
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6795
Joined: 21-07-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Shonak wrote:
Is it true that Chris Horner didn't even know the Angliru and only just informed himself in the Internet once before the stage/Vuelta? One of the german Eurosport commentators said something like that.
At least that's what Horner said in an interview
Edited by Atlantius on 14-09-2013 22:24
|
|
|
|
deek12345 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 22:39
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 2761
Joined: 13-06-2009
PCM$: 360.00
|
Spilak23 wrote:
There has not been enough bashing on Astana tactics today.
Agree ,even sean Kelly when commentating was getting annoyed at there tactics.. |
|
|
|
Miguel98 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 22:41
|
World Champion
Posts: 10497
Joined: 23-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Spilak23 wrote:
There has not been enough bashing on Astana tactics today.
True. Overshawoed by Horner's performance ofc tough. |
|
|
|
fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 14-09-2013 23:15
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 845
Joined: 28-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
If there happens to exist a divine entity somewhere in this universe, I'll pray to it that there is a lot of wind tomorrow and that Astana work together with Saxo/OPQS/Belkin to create echelons (without Horner ofc.). |
|
|
|
Spilak23 |
Posted on 14-09-2013 23:17
|
Team Leader
Posts: 7357
Joined: 22-08-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
fosforgasXIII wrote:
If there happens to exist a divine entity somewhere in this universe, I'll pray to it that there is a lot of wind tomorrow and that Astana work together with Saxo/OPQS/Belkin to create echelons (without Horner ofc.).
If only it be possible to create echelons in the middle of Madrid.
|
|
|
|
CountArach |
Posted on 15-09-2013 06:44
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 8290
Joined: 14-07-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Spilak23 wrote:
There has not been enough bashing on Astana tactics today.
Yeah they were a bit weird but the way I see it is this - everything they have tried so far this race hasn't really worked out, and we saw that Horner dealt with the Katusha team attack the day before, so they had to try something different. Sometimes it works to send a rider or two up the road and ride up to them so at least there was some sort of precedent there. Yes, for the most part it is was probably the wrong choice, but at least I can see why they thought they needed to do something a bit different.
|
|
|
|
vismitananda |
Posted on 15-09-2013 07:04
|
Domestique
Posts: 452
Joined: 23-02-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
I was really annoyed by Astana's tactics last stage. Damn! There were 3 of them, and could not even shake off that smirking bastard. I was shouting at my screen for the last 2k from home.
If there will be a doping scandal in this year's Vuelta, I wouldn't be surprise.
-Pain is temporary, Quitting lasts forever-
|
|
|
|
Malkael |
Posted on 15-09-2013 10:59
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1697
Joined: 02-08-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
Stage 21 - Leganés to Madrid (109.6 KM)
A gruelling 2013 Vuelta a Espana concludes today with a 109.6 kilometre stage from the city of Leganés to the centre of Madrid. It is a rather featureless day suited to the sprinters, however, how often have people stated that before this Vuelta a Espana.
There should be few excuses for one of sprinters to not claim the victory in Stage 21, with the stage designed to favour them. There are no climbs to mention, the weather should be rather fine and sunny with temperatures around 30-degrees (Celsius), and the race finishes with a straight forward circuit. Whilst there are areas where crosswinds could threaten, the wind is predicted to be quite pleasant.
Beginning in Leganés the stage shall follow a similar suit to the Tour de France and travel through some of the countryside and cities which form the Commune of Madrid. Before the stage then turns and heads towards Madrid proper. There are two intermediate sprints to contest along the way, however, the Points Classification (Green Jersey) has already been claimed by Alejandro Valverde, barring some freak results.
When the peloton reach Madrid they shall commence a nine lap finishing circuit of 5.7 kilometres. The circuit around the streets of Madrid should be rather uncomplicated, with several kilometres of near-on perfectly straight road. There are three evenly spread out 180-degree hairpin bends for the riders to navigate, with the third bend coming just one thousand metres from the finishing line.
With Lampre-Merida still missing a stage victory, and their Argentine sprinter Richeze threatening to better his podium results, I expect the Italian team to fight hard for the victory. Argos-Shimano will be high on confidence thanks to Warren Barguil, and the Dutch team arguably have the best, if inexperienced, lead-out train here.
Orica-GreenEDGE will be in a difficult situation, they have few riders left to support their sprinters, but Michael Matthews and Leigh Howard could perhaps piggyback off the work of the other teams. Whilst Team Sky may go “all in” in an attempt to help Edvald Boasson Hagen finally claim that elusive Vuelta stage victory. With the likes of Tyler Farrar, Gianni Meersman, and Adrien Petit likely to be there or thereabouts as well.
On paper this should be a stage for the sprinters. However, with several teams worn down through lose of numbers or fatigue all is not as simple as it would seem. The sprinters will have to been keenly aware to the possibility of another late breakaway attack.
This is the time for the sprinters to either sink or swim. To cooperate chasing down late breakaways or miss out on their final opportunity to weaknesses and a lack of coordination. |
|
|
|
Miguel98 |
Posted on 15-09-2013 11:00
|
World Champion
Posts: 10497
Joined: 23-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
And the most boring stage race finishes today.
Well, I hope anyone wins except EBH. |
|
|
|
ruben |
Posted on 15-09-2013 11:18
|
Grand Tour Champion
Posts: 7721
Joined: 23-10-2006
PCM$: 200.00
|
Horners watts were better than Contador in his best years (2008 Angliru) and better than Heras 2002, JM Jimenez 99,etc
Horner could even destroy TDF Froome. However, TDF FRoome in itself was already a freak.
So I find people who defend froome and attack Horner even more hilarious. They are both very suspicious.
But as long as they don't find anything real then i can't say they 100% doped |
|
|
|
Cyanide266 |
Posted on 15-09-2013 11:31
|
Stagiare
Posts: 241
Joined: 12-02-2013
PCM$: 200.00
|
Even on fantasy betting page no one had bet on Horner for the GC at the beginning at the Vuelta
https://www.pcmdaily.com/odds.php?game...ame_id=176 |
|
|
|
fosforgasXIII |
Posted on 15-09-2013 12:11
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 845
Joined: 28-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Can you spare a moment for the word of God?
Only in this case the underdog is the bad guy. |
|
|
|
Malkael |
Posted on 15-09-2013 15:11
|
Sprinter
Posts: 1697
Joined: 02-08-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
So does this mean the race route is changing to suit Contador for 2014? |
|
|
|
Stromeon |
Posted on 15-09-2013 15:13
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3507
Joined: 06-10-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
| | Odds | | BETANCUR Carlos | 8.75 | | HORNER Chris | 35.00 |
Oh the benefit of hindsight...
|
|
|
|
Strydz |
Posted on 15-09-2013 15:19
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
Well we didn't realise just how much he wanted that a contract for next season and how good his "preparation" was
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
|
|
|
|
Strydz |
Posted on 15-09-2013 15:23
|
Team Leader
Posts: 5894
Joined: 02-08-2011
PCM$: 1625.00
|
ruben wrote:
Horners watts were better than Contador in his best years (2008 Angliru) and better than Heras 2002, JM Jimenez 99,etc
Horner could even destroy TDF Froome. However, TDF FRoome in itself was already a freak.
So I find people who defend froome and attack Horner even more hilarious. They are both very suspicious.
But as long as they don't find anything real then i can't say they 100% doped
Ah but it all is a sign of clean cycling
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
|
|
|