@jenro98
i know what you mean with ajax and wolfsburg,
but the thing is we also want a good divided system were there are multiple countries in the datbase. we chose Ajax because it's just like PSG 4 times champion in a row.
that prestation is just so good that we chose them. VFL wolfsburg isn't in the UCI,
because i already have Schalke, Dortmujnd and Bayern in it.
@jesleyh thanks for the suggestion about the belgian team.
anderlecht has switched with river plate, and the suggestion about the Goalkeepers being an TimeTrial guy is pretty much what i talked with a friend of mine.
the goalkeeper needs to be the timetrialler because the other stats in fifa 14 or 15 of a keeper are only 25 so they have shitty stats otherwise.
but the suggestion about aggression isn't very good.
you would have not fairly statsed compared with defenders and midfielders.
because aggression is more an attacker stat. i can change them with ball control of attacker because it will be more fair.
I think aggression translates percectly to fighter. Those willing to get stuck in on the pitch will also be more willing to get stuck in on the bike.
And about Ajax: Winning the Eredivisie four times in a row is no achievement, especially given the state Feyenoord was in. You might as well make Stoke WT as well, because I'm sure they could do that too. I'd definitely switch them, not sure for whom. About the Belgian teams: I agree with Anderlecht in PCT, but Bruges as good as PSV? Come on. No fucking way.
Ok, after looking threw all the databases i have for FIFA 14 and FIFA 15,
i have considered we will do aggression as attacking.
just because some of the best aren't having that as an high stat.
2nd: Adebayo Akinfenwa with 97 will have 84 Kasseien, Damn boy.
although he is 178cm 86kg and is DAMN! what a muscles!
Another Coolrex-project. Finish your other database first before you start working on this One.
Furthermore, Jesley, stop being such a Feyenoord-fanboy. Its annoying. You can base most of the WT/PCT/CT teams on official UEFA Coëfficiënt Rankings. That is the most just and fair way of chosing teams.
Lastly, I am gonna be unpopular and say it: this database Will never be finished properly.
Ah, gundir. I thought something was missing here, everybody was being so positive and polite, and even if they doubted it they didn't say it. I hope you don't take offence when I say I had completely forgotten about you. But now, you sir, are the missing piece of the puzzle. Now we've got you being an absolute a-hole we are ready to begin.
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Anyway, back to topic: regarding the teams list, if history is to be considered you should probably include Peñarol and Nacional, from Uruguay, as well as Olimpia, from Paraguay, and Santos, from Brazil. But if only the currently squad matters, then none will be in since they all suck (as, unfortunately, most teams in south america do) On the other hand, San Lorenzo is the current Libertadores champions and Racing is the current Argentinian champion. They're not as big as River/Boca but are probably bigger than Estudiantes (they are in the conventioned "big 5" of Argentina, Estudiantes isn't), and certainly have a better squad.
Goalkeepers could also be turned into cobbled riders (as well as time trialists). They are usually tall, which sort of fits that.
Two questions: Why are you using fifa 14 stats for some teams? Also, can you add TSV 1860 München to CT please?
One of the clubs with the richest history in Germany, as well as some outstanding talents like Weigl or Wittek, never mind Okotie.
Dippofix wrote:
Two questions: Why are you using fifa 14 stats for some teams? Also, can you add TSV 1860 München to CT please?
One of the clubs with the richest history in Germany, as well as some outstanding talents like Weigl or Wittek, never mind Okotie.
FIFA 14 squads will only be used on the Brazil squads.
BECAUSE FIFA 15 DOESNT HAVE BRAZIL,
THEY REPLACED IT WITH TURKEY
Anyway, back to topic: regarding the teams list, if history is to be considered you should probably include Peñarol and Nacional, from Uruguay, as well as Olimpia, from Paraguay, and Santos, from Brazil. But if only the currently squad matters, then none will be in since they all suck (as, unfortunately, most teams in south america do) On the other hand, San Lorenzo is the current Libertadores champions and Racing is the current Argentinian champion. They're not as big as River/Boca but are probably bigger than Estudiantes (they are in the conventioned "big 5" of Argentina, Estudiantes isn't), and certainly have a better squad.
Goalkeepers could also be turned into cobbled riders (as well as time trialists). They are usually tall, which sort of fits that.
Racing Club, San Lorenzo, Santos, Atl. Nacional and Penarol are in the list,
but Olimpia isn't in any fifa
Edited by coolrex on 01-03-2015 01:17
Mostly midfielders and CBs, and only 1 striker and no wingers.
Which is cool since sprinters(wingers and sometimes strikers) are not often aggressive in cycling.
The passing stat(mainly for midfielders) will probably resemble climbing, meaning that there will be a few Froomeish guys(think Pirlo, who is not agressive), but also some guys with high FTR(=agression) among the climbers.
Although a lot of top passers are actually not aggressive so might have to find a balance in that.
What is important for Fifa -> PCM stats is that you will not find a lot of weird combinations.
For instance, good climbers should often also have good hill stats. If you make defending resembling mountain, then shooting can't be hills, since defenders don't have high shooting.
Also, making GKs resembling TTists might actually not be a great idea. Or well it could be, but you'll have to have a stat for field players to resemble TT as well, maybe not as specialists, but as decent 65-75 guys maybe. Since there's barely any field player with 30+ GK, meaning that they'd all be 30 TT
So yeah it gotta take some puzzling, might find some time to look into that myself.
Shooting, Passing and Defending should all be one important stat imo at least, since it's all very important in football.
Thought of Defending as cobblers, Passing as mountain and Shooting as hills. Good passers can often shoot well, but are often not great defenders(some are though, guys like Phillip Lahm and Xabi Alonso come to mind, but that's all. Yeah you will get some flaws in the matrix but I think this way the amount of weird stats is quite low).
@gundir
Stop being such a negative guy all over the forum. It's annoying.
I haven't said the name Feyenoord often in this thread yes. All I said is that to me it seemed fair if the Dutch Top 3 would be in the same division. After all Feyenoord has been better than PSV in the past years, despite having way less budget and coming out of a financial crisis. But alright, whatever mate.
UEFA coëfficient will not be used as coolrex said, since it has way too many teams from the top leagues and mostly takes account European tourneys rather than league results.
That other link will more likely be used according to coolrex. And guess? Feyenoord is around place 40, with also Talinn, Prague and Plzen ahead of them, who are less likely to be in PCT.
Doesn't seem too ridiculous now does it?
Well that was probably my most fanboying post(but still not blind obsessed fanboying) of this thread, but obviously it was what you asked for Edited by Jesleyh on 01-03-2015 11:39
gundir wrote:
Another Coolrex-project. Finish your other database first before you start working on this One.
Furthermore, Jesley, stop being such a Feyenoord-fanboy. Its annoying. You can base most of the WT/PCT/CT teams on official UEFA Coëfficiënt Rankings. That is the most just and fair way of chosing teams.
Lastly, I am gonna be unpopular and say it: this database Will never be finished properly.
Please shut the f##k up!! Your negativity is getting really annoying now!
No problem, I do only suggestions. Maybe you can use UEFA competition coefficients for divide the teams. For example: 3 English, German, French, Italian and Spanish teams in the WT and two of these in the PCT. Also two Russian, Ukranian, Dutch, Belgian, Swiss and Turkish teams in PCT. The teams from the countries who stands lower then the 12th place could be CT.
Edited by jennro98 on 01-03-2015 12:23
Don't really agree tbh.
As said I think stats like MO, HI, COB should be made up from several stats combined(like all the defensive stats). And as said I don't really think stats like the climbing stat should differ per position, since it'd imo be better to have the good defenders battling each other on 1 or 2 terrains, best attackers battling each other on another terrain etc. instead of having them all mixed.
Plus different Fifa stats have different matrix so it'd be near impossible to get that balanced correctly.
Shooting, Passing and Defending should all be one important stat imo at least, since it's all very important in football.
Thought of Defending as cobblers, Passing as mountain and Shooting as hills. Good passers can often shoot well, but are often not great defenders(some are though, guys like Phillip Lahm and Xabi Alonso come to mind, but that's all. Yeah you will get some flaws in the matrix but I think this way the amount of weird stats is quite low).
Flat(= RYD) stat for dribbling also does not seem a good idea. While it'd work for sprinting, cobblers(who are either defenders or strong guys most probably) will all have low RYD this way, which would not be a good idea at all, since cobblers would use RYD.
Actually I think the Physical stat(which I can find a formula for in Fifa pretty easily) could be a nice FL stat. Strong people will have a high FL stat(because Strength weighs heavy in the PHY stat) and if defenders will be made cobblers, then cobblers will have high FL(because Defenders often have high FL).
Also GKs have decent PHY often(never good, but a formula could boost that up), and if they are TTists, then they'd also need good FL so that'd work.
Furthermore that would also make guys like Bolly(Low PHY so low FL) less overpowered which is good. Fast guys like Ronaldo, Bale, Doumbia all have good PHY as well so they'd still be strong. But I am worried about guys like Messi & Robben who don't then, though, so might have to find a solution for that, although those guys could still be world-class due to their dribbling and stuff.
The rest for the goalkeeper will get an new formula,
because of the other stats are 25 for keepers.
Hmm, not really sure about this tbh. Also not all of their other stats are 25, stats like jumping, strength are a lot higher(because they help the GK) and some others are above 25 as well often.
Edited by Jesleyh on 01-03-2015 13:14
To go a little off-topic, I imagine Atletico is more known nowadays because they recently had Ronaldinho and won the Libertadores. But Cruzeiro (their main rival) is by far a more successful team. In fact, out of the conventioned "12 big teams" from Brazil, Atletico would be 11th in number of titles. Not that they haven't had good squads throughout history, in fact in late 70s/early 80s their team had 3 players that would be among the first 11 of Brazil's 1982 squad. But they just have something that doesn't allow them to win (for instance, they were unlucky to have this squad at the same period of Flamengo's Zico - perhaps the best Brazilian team since Santos's Pelé). In 1977 Atletico actually managed to lose the Brazilian championship undefeated 
