Tour d'Algerie - Discussion
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dev4ever |
Posted on 25-01-2013 17:31
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Epic race, battle was hard! Wonder if all the mountain stages would look like this!
And yet another succesfull race by Iberia, goddamit!
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roturn |
Posted on 25-01-2013 17:39
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Surprising finish there. Pretty much like it when the mountain stages are less predictable than with PCM09 or older versions.
Arroyo should still manage to bring his team the needed points later. |
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jaxika |
Posted on 25-01-2013 17:42
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Great race and a great report!
Congrats to Iberia and MTN, well done.
I'm very happy with my riders, protecting Talabardon earlier was a smart move, thanks guys. And Carrara, he's a monster, in the first stages set up all the time the sprint to Dekkers and now finishing 7th, just fantastic!
I said earlier i wait for a stage win and a top5, the stage win didnt come, but the other results overwrite my biggest hopes. Thanks and thanks.
I hope the next stage races and classics come in this level, this was very-very exciting |
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fjhoekie |
Posted on 25-01-2013 17:58
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Mestre losing 5 minutes... Not good...
Anyway, stage win, 3 podiums, green jersey and 2nd in KoM is pretty damn good...
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Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-01-2013 18:04
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Great! Smart tactics by Moreno staying calm and following Marzano. Was hoping he could get the stage win in the last km but great job by Rodas and congrats to Aidan. Great to see an African team taking a stage win. And also happy that Fernandez Oliveira finished 11th. Proves the depth and support.
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fintas |
Posted on 25-01-2013 18:07
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I am quite satisfied with the performance of my team. Cabreira was better than I expected, and the Galta was a total surprise ... Could not ask for better
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DubbelDekker |
Posted on 25-01-2013 18:11
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Wow, thrilling stage and great performance by Rodas!
It was a cool Tour to follow as neutral spectator; well done Alakagom. And congrats to Iberia for winning yet again.
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FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 25-01-2013 18:11
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fintas wrote:
I am quite satisfied with the performance of my team. Cabreira was better than I expected, and the Galta was a total surprise ... Could not ask for better
Just saw Galta's result. Totally cheered me up |
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 25-01-2013 18:54
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What a start for Iberia!
2/2, congrats Spilak
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Stevenag |
Posted on 25-01-2013 19:45
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A little disapointed for Marzano. Knocked out Arroyo, and still only ended third.
Have to give credit to Maisto and Kiserlovski though. Both ended higher than expected, and give us some valuable points.
Started to get a big distaste for the MTN-team. Not only are their jersey way to similar to ours from a distance, now they also beat us in important races. |
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-01-2013 21:16
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Rankings
Jaguar close the gap to Sram, while Iberia's 2nd race victory out of 2 puts them in 3rd and into the CT lead. WWE picked up a handful of points here, and they go 5th.
Allianz and Adira continues their useful starts with 30+ points from 3 different races so far, while MTN, Privatbank and Kappa all make strong starts to their season.
1 | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 223 | 2 | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 208 | 3 | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 183 | 4 | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 177 | 5 | Team WWE | PCT | 172 | 6 | Team UPC - Boehringer-Ingelheim | PCT | 166 | 7 | Allianz-BMW | CT | 163 | 8 | AirBaltic - Endura | PCT | 160 | 9 | Cisco Cycling Team | PCT | 145 | 10 | Meiji - Cannondale | PCT | 123 | 11 | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 115 | 12 | Team CSC-Orbea | PCT | 109 | 13 | Evian-MIAT | PCT | 104 | 14 | MTN - World Bicycle Relief | CT | 74 | 15 | Team PrivatBank | CT | 69 | 16 | Oz Cycling Project | PCT | 67 | 17 | Swedbank-PEAB | PCT | 64 | 18 | Pivovarna Laško | PCT | 62 | 19 | Rothaus - Aegon | PCT | 61 | 20 | Kappa - ENI | CT | 61 | 21 | Team Bpost | PCT | 59 | 22 | Alstom-RBC | PCT | 55 | 23 | Die Berg Komt Er | CT | 40 | 24 | Team Gazelle | CT | 39 | 25 | Futbol Club Barcelona - Estrella Damm | CT | 36 | 26 | Kenya Airways - Barclays | CT | 28 | 27 | Magna-Ryanair | CT | 26 | 28 | Risa - Ergon | CT | 26 | 29 | PFG-Armavia | PCT | 26 | 30 | Mobil - Castrol Cycling | CT | 20 | 31 | Metinvest-Emirates | PCT | 15 | 32 | Boeing-Vivacom | CT | 13 | 33 | Banco Nacional de Costa Rica | CT | 10 | 34 | Sauber Petronas | CT | 10 | 35 | Vueling Airlines | PCT | 10 | 36 | LukOil-Rostelekom | PCT | 5 | 37 | HTC Nieuwsblad | PCT | 3 | 38 | Japanese - Korean Cycling Project | CT | 3 | 39 | Amex Pro Cycling | PCT | 0 | 40 | Bouygues Telecom | PCT | 0 | 41 | ING Cycling Project | PCT | 0 |
Moreno's victory puts him in 8th and the leading CT rider. Rodas and Polivoda enter the standings in the Top 15, while Talabardon climbs to 14th.
1 | Dowsett | Alex | GBR | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 171 | 2 | Greipel | André | GER | Team WWE | PCT | 140 | 3 | Efimkin | Aleksandr | RUS | Cisco Cycling Team | PCT | 135 | 4 | Haussler | Heinrich | GER | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 135 | 5 | Davis | Allan | AUS | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 127 | 6 | Gavazzi | Francesco | ITA | Team UPC - Boehringer-Ingelheim | PCT | 127 | 7 | Napolitano | Danilo | ITA | Evian-MIAT | PCT | 98 | 8 | Moreno | Daniel | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 79 | 9 | Mehr-Wenige | Dietmar | GER | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 77 | 10 | Costa | Rui | POR | Team CSC-Orbea | PCT | 71 | 11 | Manan | Anuar | MAS | Meiji - Cannondale | PCT | 70 | 12 | Vantomme | Maxime | BEL | Rothaus - Aegon | PCT | 61 | 13 | Rodas | Julián | COL | MTN - World Bicycle Relief | CT | 59 | 14 | Talabardon | Yannick | FRA | Allianz-BMW | CT | 58 | 15 | Polivoda | Oleksandr | UKR | Team PrivatBank | CT | 55 | 16 | Dekkers | Hans | NED | Allianz-BMW | CT | 54 | 17 | Vaitkus | Tomas | LTU | AirBaltic - Endura | PCT | 53 | 18 | Zingle | Romain | BEL | Team Bpost | PCT | 53 | 19 | Docker | Mitch | AUS | AirBaltic - Endura | PCT | 47 | 20 | Rodriguez Oliver | Joaquin | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 45 |
Spoiler 21 | Marzano | Marco | ITA | Kappa - ENI | CT | 45 | 22 | Hermans | Ben | BEL | Swedbank-PEAB | PCT | 44 | 23 | Soupe | Geoffrey | FRA | Alstom-RBC | PCT | 43 | 24 | Hatanaka | Yusuke | JPN | Meiji - Cannondale | PCT | 36 | 25 | Wegmann | Fabian | GER | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 34 | 26 | Cavendish | Mark | GBR | AirBaltic - Endura | PCT | 31 | 27 | Kump | Marko | SLO | Pivovarna Laško | PCT | 27 | 28 | Arroyo | David | ESP | Die Berg Komt Er | CT | 27 | 29 | Rowe | Matt | GBR | AirBaltic - Endura | PCT | 26 | 30 | Ilias | Perikles | GRE | Magna-Ryanair | CT | 26 | 31 | Gerrans | Simon | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | PCT | 26 | 32 | Barrio | Sergio | ESP | Team CSC-Orbea | PCT | 26 | 33 | Carrara | Matteo | ITA | Allianz-BMW | CT | 26 | 34 | Hansen | Adam | AUS | Pivovarna Laško | PCT | 25 | 35 | Cabreira | João | POR | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 23 | 36 | Betancourt | Carlos | COL | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 22 | 37 | Hopman | Jan | NED | Team UPC - Boehringer-Ingelheim | PCT | 22 | 38 | Sutton | Christopher | AUS | Risa - Ergon | CT | 21 | 39 | Weening | Pieter | NED | Team Gazelle | CT | 20 | 40 | Anton Martin | Francisco | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 19 | 41 | Eichler | Markus | GER | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 18 | 42 | Nieve | Mikel | ESP | Futbol Club Barcelona - Estrella Damm | CT | 18 | 43 | Hamza | Faycal | ALG | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 18 | 44 | Martinez | Yasmani | CUB | Kenya Airways - Barclays | CT | 17 | 45 | Bakhin | Evgeny | RUS | PFG-Armavia | PCT | 17 | 46 | Duggan | Timothy | USA | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 16 | 47 | Visconti | Giovanni | ITA | Oz Cycling Project | PCT | 15 | 48 | Furdi | Blaz | SLO | Team Gazelle | CT | 15 | 49 | Lloyd | Matthew | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | PCT | 14 | 50 | Routley | Will | CAN | Boeing-Vivacom | CT | 13 | 51 | Hudecek | Jiri | CZE | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 12 | 52 | Zaballa | Constantino | ESP | Team CSC-Orbea | PCT | 12 | 53 | Vingerling | Michael | NED | Team WWE | PCT | 12 | 54 | Abdallah | Cherif | EGY | MTN - World Bicycle Relief | CT | 12 | 55 | Hoelgaard | Daniel | NOR | Team PrivatBank | CT | 12 | 56 | Selander | Bjorn | USA | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 11 | 57 | Valencia | Juan Pablo | COL | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 11 | 58 | Ciocan | Alex | ROM | Mobil - Castrol Cycling | CT | 11 | 59 | Kreder | Michel | NED | Swedbank-PEAB | PCT | 11 | 60 | Fernández Oliveira | Luis | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 11 | 61 | Grau | Jordi | ESP | Futbol Club Barcelona - Estrella Damm | CT | 10 | 62 | Ford | William | AUS | Oz Cycling Project | PCT | 10 | 63 | Taborre | Fabio | ITA | Cisco Cycling Team | PCT | 9 | 64 | Monsalve | Yonathan | VEN | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 9 | 65 | Dall'Antonia | Tiziano | ITA | Mobil - Castrol Cycling | CT | 9 | 66 | Nielsen | Magnus Cort | DEN | Swedbank-PEAB | PCT | 9 | 67 | Kirchen | Kim | LUX | Allianz-BMW | CT | 9 | 68 | Maes | Nikolas | BEL | Allianz-BMW | CT | 8 | 69 | Firsanov | Sergey | RUS | Banco Nacional de Costa Rica | CT | 8 | 70 | Proni | Alessandro | ITA | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 8 | 71 | Schurter | Nino | SWI | Sauber Petronas | CT | 8 | 72 | Galta | Fredrik Strand | NOR | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 8 | 73 | Rizza | Emanuele | ITA | Die Berg Komt Er | CT | 8 | 74 | Maisto | Massimiliano | ITA | Kappa - ENI | CT | 8 | 75 | Schinker | Nico | LUX | Kenya Airways - Barclays | CT | 8 | 76 | Becerra | Julián | COL | Team WWE | PCT | 8 | 77 | Salas | Sebastian | CAN | Alstom-RBC | PCT | 7 | 78 | Scheirlinckx | Staf | BEL | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 7 | 79 | Santambrogio | Mauro | ITA | Meiji - Cannondale | PCT | 7 | 80 | Oelerich | Jan | GER | Team UPC - Boehringer-Ingelheim | PCT | 7 | 81 | Abelouache | Essaid | MOR | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 6 | 82 | Kwok | Ho-Ting | HKG | Meiji - Cannondale | PCT | 6 | 83 | Hutarovich | Yauheni | BLR | Pivovarna Laško | PCT | 6 | 84 | Feillu | Romain | FRA | Team Bpost | PCT | 6 | 85 | Kadri | Blel | FRA | Vueling Airlines | PCT | 6 | 86 | Calzati | Sylvain | FRA | Futbol Club Barcelona - Estrella Damm | CT | 6 | 87 | Perez Sanchez | Francisco | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 6 | 88 | Teklehaimanot | Daniel | ERI | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 6 | 89 | Kiserlovski | Emanuel | CRO | Kappa - ENI | CT | 6 | 90 | Puusepp | Martin | EST | Evian-MIAT | PCT | 5 | 91 | Mironov | Aleksandr | RUS | LukOil-Rostelekom | PCT | 5 | 92 | Vitoria | David | SWI | Metinvest-Emirates | PCT | 5 | 93 | Hoffman | Nolan | RSA | Metinvest-Emirates | PCT | 5 | 94 | Lagkuti | Sergiy | UKR | Metinvest-Emirates | PCT | 5 | 95 | Olsson | Michael | SWD | Risa - Ergon | CT | 5 | 96 | Smukulis | Gatis | LAT | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 5 | 97 | Groenewegen | Dylan | NED | Team UPC - Boehringer-Ingelheim | PCT | 5 | 98 | Priamo | Matteo | ITA | Team UPC - Boehringer-Ingelheim | PCT | 5 | 99 | Pineau | Jérôme | FRA | Team WWE | PCT | 5 | 100 | Durán | Marconi | CRC | Allianz-BMW | CT | 5 | 101 | De Weert | Kevin | BEL | Die Berg Komt Er | CT | 5 | 102 | Blazquez | Andoni | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 4 | 103 | Arashiro | Yukiya | JPN | Meiji - Cannondale | PCT | 4 | 104 | Bole | Grega | SLO | Pivovarna Laško | PCT | 4 | 105 | Viennet | Emilien | FRA | Vueling Airlines | PCT | 4 | 106 | Antunes | Amaro | POR | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 4 | 107 | Boivin | Guillaume | CAN | Alstom-RBC | PCT | 4 | 108 | Yeung | Ying Hon | HKG | PFG-Armavia | PCT | 4 | 109 | Tankink | Bram | NED | Team WWE | PCT | 4 | 110 | Richardson | Simon | GBR | AirBaltic - Endura | PCT | 3 | 111 | Van der Lijke | Nick | NED | HTC Nieuwsblad | PCT | 3 | 112 | Sánchez Gonzalez | Samuel | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 3 | 113 | Konte | Bassirou | CIV | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 3 | 114 | Teklit | Tesfar | ERI | Jaguar - Eritel | PCT | 3 | 115 | Keisse | Iljo | BEL | Sram - Riboxx | PCT | 3 | 116 | Mugerli | Matej | SLO | Team Gazelle | CT | 3 | 117 | Delaplace | Anthony | FRA | Allianz-BMW | CT | 3 | 118 | Gallego | Diego | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 3 | 119 | Njoroge | Daniel | KEN | Kenya Airways - Barclays | CT | 3 | 120 | Ben Youcef | Abdalla | ALG | MTN - World Bicycle Relief | CT | 3 | 121 | Sohrabi | Mahdi | IRN | PFG-Armavia | PCT | 3 | 122 | Jumabekov | Nazar | KAZ | Banco Nacional de Costa Rica | CT | 2 | 123 | Sambris | Ruslan | MOL | Hollister Pro Cycling | PCT | 2 | 124 | Toribio | Jose Vicente | ESP | Iberia - Comunidad Valenciana | CT | 2 | 125 | Rasmussen | Alex | DEN | Oz Cycling Project | PCT | 2 | 126 | Hugentobler | Greogry | SWI | Sauber Petronas | CT | 2 | 127 | Haddi | Soufiane | MOR | Futbol Club Barcelona - Estrella Damm | CT | 2 | 128 | Buts | Vitaliy | UKR | Team PrivatBank | CT | 2 | 129 | Cardoso | André | POR | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 1 | 130 | Soto Pereira | Jorge Adelbo | URU | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 1 | 131 | Reis | Rafael | POR | Adira Isq-Project | CT | 1 | 132 | Salerno | Cristiano | ITA | Cisco Cycling Team | PCT | 1 | 133 | Rocchetti | Federico | ITA | Evian-MIAT | PCT | 1 | 134 | Bennett | Sam | IRL | Jaguar - 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Spilak23 |
Posted on 25-01-2013 21:25
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Rodriguez and Moreno will not ride untill Galicia now so the results should be a bit less from now on. But Sanchez and Lay should still get decent points for me.
Allianz is following very well. Only 20 points down with no real stand out performances. Slowly taking points everywhere with good all around depth. When Maes starts to race, I'm quite sure they will overtake me.
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Firefly21 |
Posted on 25-01-2013 21:29
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Two early favourites for promotion off to very strong starts. Iberia already outpacing the pack and Allianz with strong performances and they haven't even had any racedays from Maes yet. I know its early in the season but it might be difficult to catch up to those two teams. Adira performing well, though they should be expected to in having DMW in a lot of the early races; they will need more secondary scoring to continue to stay up at the top.
Thanks for the update SN!
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FroomeDog99 |
Posted on 25-01-2013 21:32
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Methinks we are going to be down at the bottom of the CT at about halfway due to lack of leaders racing and it'll be tough to catch up, and Martinez completely failing is not a good sign
Anyway, even if we fail this season I still got Plan B...
*looks at plan b and gives an evil laugh*
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CountArach |
Posted on 25-01-2013 22:45
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First Tachira last year and now Algerie this year - Rodas seems to just specialise in long-range attacks which can get him a stage win. What a race and incredibly well reported.
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Smowz |
Posted on 26-01-2013 07:30
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Rodas does seem to do well in early season races (for no reason whatsoever by the way). I recall two years ago he did pretty well in Tachira the year before his now much reported on Tachira leaders jersey run.
This result reminded me of early mountain stages in grand tours in that a decent climber (but not the best) was allowed to dangle a minute in front while the favourites played pattacake behind. The difference here was that this was the finale and you have to say Arroyo massively underwhelming here. Could it be he just had a negative daily form day?
I notice that Rodas, Moreno and Marzano have decent resistance stats to back up their climbing (though nowhere near as good as Arroyo of course), along with decent accelerations.
An exciting and very interesting race great first reports Alakagom.
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jt1109 |
Posted on 26-01-2013 11:06
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Pretty sure my guys waited for Soupe and Privatbanks top climbers waited for Polivoda which didn't matter too much on this stage as they wern't expected to be near the front but will be intresting to see if a Sprinter is in the lead in another tour and has a top climber if they will wait or not. |
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ggDonovan |
Posted on 26-01-2013 12:15
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Happy enough with the 9th and 14th position. I was expecting also collecting some points in the stage with Nieve (8+ position) but at least our expectations are fulfilled.
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Bjartne |
Posted on 27-01-2013 23:20
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Wow, very happy with Bakhin in this race!
10th in GC and + the white jersey is really the best we could have hoped for |
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Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 28-01-2013 05:55
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Great mountain finale in Algeria, congrats to mighty Iberia and all the others for their results. Very exciting report and outcome of the race, looking forward to the next mountains in C2, waiting for revenge of Arroyo.
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