Clasica San Sebastian Discussion
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Posted on 11-06-2020 10:36
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Clasica San Sebastian
We're in the Basque Country for the the Klasikoa next, as the 2019 season heads towards its conclusion. As you'd expect from a race in this part of the world, there's lot of sharp steep climbs on the route - and as you'd expect from a HC race, most of the top PCT puncheurs are here as well!
The Puncheurs
| HIL | MO | STA | RES | ACC | Claeys | 83 | 67 | 74 | 68 | 73 | Kinoshita | 82 | 72 | 80 | 77 | 77 | Kelderman | 82 | 71 | 80 | 75 | 72 | Di Maggio | 82 | 65 | 73 | 68 | 75 | Izagirre | 81 | 74 | 73 | 72 | 64 | Schreurs | 81 | 69 | 76 | 72 | 74 | Betancourt | 80 | 73 | 72 | 71 | 74 | Flügel | 80 | 71 | 77 | 65 | 72 | Vakoc | 80 | 71 | 75 | 71 | 74 | Waeytens | 80 | 71 | 72 | 70 | 73 | Prevar | 80 | 71 | 77 | 70 | 73 | Borges | 80 | 70 | 75 | 73 | 81 | Jensen | 80 | 70 | 77 | 73 | 76 | Zaini | 80 | 66 | 74 | 65 | 70 | Dowsett | 80 | 65 | 74 | 69 | 71 | Vogt | 80 | 62 | 78 | 71 | 63 | Paulinho | 79 | 75 | 70 | 72 | 75 | Trofimov | 79 | 74 | 74 | 72 | 70 | Klemme | 79 | 73 | 73 | 69 | 65 | Reichenbach | 79 | 73 | 76 | 69 | 69 | Barrio | 79 | 70 | 69 | 63 | 67 | Yates | 79 | 70 | 77 | 70 | 80 | Gebrezgabihier | 79 | 70 | 74 | 74 | 69 | Froome | 79 | 67 | 72 | 68 | 70 | Bilbao | 79 | 67 | 77 | 71 | 75 |
The big three of Claeys, Kinoshita and Kelderman are all here and should be the top favourites. But with a lot of climbing on the route, watch out for the likes of home favourite Izagirre, Betancourt, Paulinho and Trofimov.
The Climbers
| HIL | MO | STA | RES | ACC | Meintjes | 77 | 80 | 77 | 76 | 69 | Hirschlein | 71 | 77 | 71 | 71 | 59 | Boily | 78 | 76 | 72 | 72 | 74 | Kratochvila | 77 | 76 | 70 | 68 | 64 | Dall'Oste | 76 | 76 | 71 | 74 | 71 | Destribois | 75 | 76 | 68 | 69 | 75 | Hatsuyama | 74 | 76 | 70 | 69 | 70 | Nitu | 74 | 76 | 73 | 70 | 70 | Affonso | 72 | 76 | 72 | 70 | 68 | Baltazar | 71 | 76 | 71 | 72 | 69 | Pozzo | 70 | 76 | 70 | 72 | 75 | Sepulveda | 77 | 75 | 74 | 73 | 73 | De Plus | 75 | 75 | 72 | 72 | 70 | Blikra | 75 | 75 | 72 | 70 | 72 | Jones | 73 | 75 | 72 | 71 | 66 | Frank | 73 | 75 | 70 | 66 | 66 |
As mentioned above, the repeated climbing may play into the hands of those climbers who have gambled on attending what is a hill classic on paper. Meintjes is the headline name, but Boily, Kratochvila and Dall'Oste are also ones to watch.
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 11-06-2020 11:29
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No Beltran no Party. Rooting for Kelderman, but I could imagine this being a race for either Borges or Boily. Meintjes the obvious favourite though
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redordead |
Posted on 11-06-2020 11:36
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Croatia14 wrote:
No Beltran no Party. Rooting for Kelderman, but I could imagine this being a race for either Borges or Boily. Meintjes the obvious favourite though
Ugh, I have no idea why I decided to send Bilbao here over Beltran
Now I have to hope Bilbao gets some sort of home race bonus to get anything from this race
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Ollfardh |
Posted on 11-06-2020 11:43
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Let's go Dall'Oste!
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Posted on 11-06-2020 13:29
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Betancourt returns after his sight-seeing holiday in Beijing, hopefully the rest means he might pay a bit of attention here. A race profile that looks well suited for both Betancourt and Boily (with the assumption that Mo will play a part), with strong support from the likes of Sepulveda and Zakarin who are also quite well suited. One potential issue is the overall length, this is a long, long race. Taken together all makes predictions quite difficult to balance, but nevertheless, I'd expect the top 3 to be composed of Kinoshita, Kelderman and Meintjes (order unclear). If the ISA - Hexacta crew can combine to bring home a nice ppRD haul, management will be happy!
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 11-06-2020 13:35
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Big expectations every time Kelderman rides. Hopefully this and other hilly classics later in the season remain puncher's races otherwise our season is already over!
Thanks for the preview
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Marcovdw |
Posted on 11-06-2020 14:18
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Claeys the mountain goat!
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-06-2020 14:47
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Breakaway bug? Please? Also, can we be in that breakaway? Please?
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Posted on 11-06-2020 15:59
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This is a mountain classic
Anyway I have Bellis on standby who can hopefully overperform a little if this Meintjes gamble doesn't work out the way I planned
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valverde321 |
Posted on 11-06-2020 16:26
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Personally I think other than Meintjes, the MO riders aren't strong enough to beat the top punchers. If Beltran was here, he'd be my favourite. I think Kinoshita and Kelderman are the two favourites, imo. Claeys has weaker MO and STA, which should be the biggest decider here (after the race day form, which could give a weaker rider the best stats...)
Hoping Kinoshita can get a win here. We need it in the promotion battle, especially after some underperfomances in other races. Tenorio is done racing for Desigual, and we still have a few races with Shikai and Kinoshita left, so we need to pass them in the standings now.
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Kentaurus |
Posted on 11-06-2020 18:35
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Stamina here will be used, as that really start to dig into effect on these longer races, I really like Kinoshita here, with Kelderman being the only one to really keep with him. Behind that pair it gets more dicey, and obviously we know with how bunched up this massive top end start list is, good legs will be the most important.
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Tamijo |
Posted on 11-06-2020 19:25
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Think my team would need a huge amount of breakaway luck in this one so guess we are looking at a 0-pointer
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sammyt93 |
Posted on 11-06-2020 19:41
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redordead wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
No Beltran no Party. Rooting for Kelderman, but I could imagine this being a race for either Borges or Boily. Meintjes the obvious favourite though
Ugh, I have no idea why I decided to send Bilbao here over Beltran
Now I have to hope Bilbao gets some sort of home race bonus to get anything from this race
I did the same thing sending Hugentobler over Slagter, so I don't even get a mention in the preview.
Hopefully it means we will get someone in the break (maybe Hirschi?)
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fintas |
Posted on 11-06-2020 20:32
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Vogt to be droped on the second climb please.
Besides, I'm not expecting anything positive in this race
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Posted on 11-06-2020 22:47
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I have no idea what to expect, but hoping for miracle with top5 as a result for Izagirre on his home soil. Moreover, Kratochvila could break into top20 in case of really good daily form.
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fjhoekie |
Posted on 12-06-2020 09:16
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Prevar to repeat his success from a few seasons ago?
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fjhoekie |
Posted on 12-06-2020 09:50
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Or top 15... Decent enough
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Tamijo |
Posted on 12-06-2020 09:55
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As bad as expected, thanks for the report.
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Posted on 12-06-2020 09:57
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Shame not to see Kelderman at the top here but a very entertaining battle - congrats valverde, Kinoshita hitting form at a great time for your promotion charge! Cool to see Borges doing well of course too
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AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 12-06-2020 10:04
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Nope, not gonna happen I guess.
Great race though! Congrats valverde and thanks for the report once again jph
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