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2012 Astana - GP della Costa Etruschi
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| janne_837 |
Posted on 02-08-2012 20:45
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Hello.
Quite sure nobody knows me anymore. My name is Jan, and I am a pupil in my 11th year from Germany.
(One?) year ago, I already wrote another story for Pro Cycling Manager 2010. This radioshack story, full with my fanboy attitude towards RadioShack and Armstrong, was kinda popular (I guess? Atleast I had some follower :-D). Unfortunately, I lost some of the interest for cycling and started to get lazy, resulting in dropping the story unfinished.
Well, getting into this recently, starting playing PCM again and spending a little amount for PCM 2011 (lol already an old one, now where PCM12 is out).
Im just downloading the PCMdaily DB 2012 and think to start another little story. Guess it won't be as detailed as my earlier one, but I still won't make you wasting time reading this, I will try to entertain readers as much as possible. Hopefully there are still some people interesting in pcm11 story stuff :-D
I just checked some teams and thought of three Options;
- Astana: interesting because of enough leaders, resulting in good GC placings at major Tours, I were kind of a fan of Vinokourov in his Telekom times. It also has quite a good equipe for some hilly classics
- Green Edge: don't know that one, just love this team full of sprinters and old glory, with a lot of old names I remember better than the new ones. I guess a lot of wins and good cobble results should be possible
- Omega Pharma: without Gilbert still an interesting team, VDB for some good results in tours and Greipel for a good amount of wins for the sponsors sake.
Being quite unsure, I would enjoy if you would take the decision for me.
My english sucks, please ignore all the mistakes which might be all over here.
Edited by janne_837 on 16-08-2012 15:27
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| cio93 |
Posted on 02-08-2012 20:48
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janne_837 wrote:
- Lotto - Belisol: without Gilbert still an interesting team, VDB for some good results in tours and Greipel for a good amount of wins for the sponsors sake.
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Fixed that for you 
Edited by cio93 on 02-08-2012 20:48
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| PCM rulezz |
Posted on 02-08-2012 20:53
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I am still interested in PCM 2011 .
I would go for Lotto - Belisol
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
It's difficult not to be happy when you're surrounded by Belgians. - Mark Cavendish
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| fernando97 |
Posted on 02-08-2012 21:15
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I think GreenEdge would be quite interesting, there are not too much stories with them. 
EDIT oh and it`s good to see you back after the Radio story.
Edited by fernando97 on 02-08-2012 21:16
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 01:52
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 01:59
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I remember you. I was actually thinking of you today, as I remembered your Radioshack story, which was very good.
Nice to see you again! I say go for Astana. Go from one legend (Lance) to another (Vino)! He should still have decent stats too 
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 03-08-2012 02:03
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"Quite sure nobody knows you anymore"? Well, I'd believe about the same for the others, but I for sure remember Just the other day I was reading about Paulinho/Machado? (a Portuguese ) solo move in the Dauphine?, which got caught 500m from the line. What a shame, but it was great
As for the story: PCM11 is still very interesting, also because some people are waiting for the last patch/last DBs versions to start a career in 12 I'd say go with Astana. They have quite an all-round team which should be interesting You could add the Olympic RR and try to take it with Vino
Nice to see you back
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| Mr_Monk |
Posted on 03-08-2012 02:05
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Not a big fan of Astana, but it would still be an interesting story to read |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 09:37
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I would like to see you go for Astana |
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| janne_837 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 15:09
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Thanks for the support guys! Also nice to see some of the people remaining which followed my last one the year ago. :-D
It seems that Astana is already with a huge lead of votes, so depending on my time, I even might get that team presentation online tonight.
Prepare for a new story, this time with another cycling legend which has a team build around him, Vinokourov and Astana!
Luigi, that idea with the olympian RR is amazing! I just dont know how to add races, I never was much in this editing thing :/ |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 03-08-2012 15:16
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Great news!
I actually like Astana as a team
Good Luck
Off to read your other story
Go PCM11
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 15:19
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Great to see you back! I loved your Radioshack story.
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 03-08-2012 16:00
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Nice to see you back here! I'm glad you'll go with Astana, such a nice team to play with, but is rarely picked for a story. |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 03-08-2012 16:13
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Good Luck with the story and Vino of cause |
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| janne_837 |
Posted on 04-08-2012 00:26
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Thanks guys, I really did not expect anybody remembering me, but nice to get convinced by the opposite!
As promised, the presentation tonight. I won't have time until Monday, so expect another update then.
2012 Astana
Game Settings
Database
PCM.daily V2 (with minor changes)
Difficulty
Normal
Getting in cycling and PCM again after a year, I got kinda bad again (not that I was ever great in this game haha), so I want get this started slowly. If I see the results are getting achieved to easy, I will be switching to hard gratefully
Rider Evolution
0.5
Sponsor
Sponsor
Astana
Contract
2013
Budget
4.210.000€
Main Goals
KoM Giro d'Italia
KoM Tour de France
Top 3 Il Lombardia
Top 5 Milano - San Remo
Top 5 Liège-Bastogne-Liège
Top 10 Vuelta a Espana
2012 Squad
Team Leaders
Alexandre Vinokourov
Spoiler 
Date of Birth 16/09/1973
Place of Birth Petropavl, Kazakhstan
Debut 1998
Wins as professional 66
Most important results
1° Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2005 & 2010
1° Vuelta a Espana 2006
3° Tour de France 2003
5° Tour de France 2005
4 stage wins at the Tour de France 2003-2010
The symbol of the kazakhish cycling had quite a career, as crowd favourite and aggressive rider in his first years getting to a rider "you like to hate". Even with Ullrich and Klöden in one team, he managed to achieve several good results in the Tour between 2003 and 2005, getting him a reputation as possible grand tour winner, which he fulfilled with his victory at the Vuelta a Espana 2006. Founding the Astana Cycling Team, he got caught doped at the TdF 2007. Rejoining Astana after his suspension 2009, he achieved already some wins in the late season. With his victory at LBL, the second place at the Clasica San Sebastian and another stage win at the TdF the following season, he showed that he is still one of the stronger riders in the peloton.
He will lead Astana in the Tour de France, getting supported by Brajkovic, Kreuziger, and Kiverlovski, aiming for a Top10 overall aswell as a stage win, for which he might risk even getting in a breakaway and lose some time. He will be one of the captains (together with Gasparotto and Kreuziger) at the hilly classics early and late season as well, going for Top 5.
Roman Kreuziger
Spoiler
Date of Birth 06/05/1986
Place of Birth Moravská Trebová, Czech Republic
Debut 2006
Wins as professional 10
Most important results
1° Tour de Suisse 2008
1° Tour de Romandie 2009
4° Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2011
5° Giro d'Italia 2011
9° Tour de France 2009 & 2010
Getting the leadership for the hilly classics split with Vino and Gasparotto, he will be the one and only captain for the Giro d'Italia, where he can target the podium and the KoM jersey. He will have to help Vino in the Tour tho, only acting as his lieutenant.
Janez Brajkovic
Spoiler
Date of Birth 18/12/1983
Place of Birth Metlika, Slovenia
Debut 2005
Wins as professional 5
Most important results
1° Critérium du Dauphine 2010
3° Deutschland Tour 2008
5° Tour de Romandie 2010
7° Paris-Nice 2011
Similar to Kreuziger, he has his "own tour", the Vuelta, where he will get full support to aim for a good ranking in the overall, but he has to help Vino in the Tour aswell. Astana also plan to get him in shape for some of the smaller, yet important stage races in the spring, like Paris-Nice, too.
Borut Bozic
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Date of Birth 08/08/1980
Place of Birth Idrija, Yugoslavia
Debut 2004
Wins as professional 10
Most important results
1° Stage 6, Vuelta a Espana 2009
1° Stage 2 & 3 Tour of Belgium 2009
1° Stage 1 & 2 Etoile de Besseges 2010
1° Stage 5 Tour de Suisse 2011
3° Paris-Tours 2009
3° Ster Elektrotoer 2009
Too be honest, he can't stand a comparison towards the other riders in this section, however, Astana is hoping to achieve some additional victories in bunch sprints, where we rely on Bozic, Ponzi, Guarneri and Gavazzi. Bozic, as the best of them, will get his chance in the Tour (alone) and in the Vuelta, where he will get a little support. Espescially in the spring, this guy might appear often as captain.
Squad
Credits to ricoteru_uy, as I used his team presentation as guide line.
Edited by janne_837 on 08-08-2012 13:52
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 04-08-2012 00:41
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Nice Team review |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 06-08-2012 14:44
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Nice to see you back! I remember when I read through your story, it was one of the best out here. Hope you can do as good with Astana. Looking at the team presentation, I'm sure you will!
Btw: PCM11 is great imo...
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| janne_837 |
Posted on 07-08-2012 21:15
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Thank you guys!
Finally back from holidays, lets get into this:
04/01
I had a long talk with Vino today. He announced his retirement for 2013 and plans to end his career with the Chrono des Nations race in oktober. Though that was quite a little shock, he promised me that he's motivated for one last, great season.
This will be interesting for Kreuziger and Brajkovic, as they might get team leader for 2013.
07/01
We expended contracts for Gavazzi, Zeits and Aru, while Kashechkin and Guarneri seems to be popular and want to wait for July, as other teams might sign them.
We wait for some results from Bazayev, Grivko, Valentin Iglinsky and Renev, as their contracts are expiring as well, but we want to give a look at their performance as they have not a sure place for our 2013 squad.
08/01
Race results
Spoiler Australian Championships RR
1° Heinrich Haussler (Garmin) 3h56'06"
2° Matthew Goss (GreenEdge) +19"
3° Simon Gerrans (GreenEdge) s.t.
10/01
Race results
Spoiler Australian Championships TT
1° Cadel Evans (BMC) 42'23"
2° Jack Bobridge (GreenEdge) +33"
3° Heinrich Haussler (Garmin) +41"
12/01
Acqua&Sapone, Argos, Cofidis and Farnese Vini will join the ranks of the participants of the Tour Down Under 2012.
17/01
Tour Down Under
The Tour Down Under is a cycling race in and around Adelaide, South Australia. The race starts on the 3rd Tuesday of January each year and attracts riders worldwide. In 2005, the Tour Down Under was promoted by the Union Cycliste Internationale highest ranking outside Europe. In 2008 the Tour Down Under became the first UCI ProTour in Australia, and the following year it became the inaugural event of the UCI World Ranking calendar.
Record winners: Stuart O'Grady (AUS), André Greipel (GER) 2
2011 winner: Cameron Meyer (AUS)
2012 Startlist
Spoiler Katusha
1. Ó.Freire
2. M.Haller
3. A.Kristoff
4. L.Paolini
5. A.Porsev
6. R.Selig
7. G.Smukulis
Quick·Step
11. T.Boonen
12. M.Bandiera
13. F.Chicchi
14. A.Fenn
15. N.Maes
16. N.Terpstra
17. M.Trentin
Rabobank
21. M.Breschel
22. J.Bol
23. G.Brown
24. M.Matthews
25. J.Van Emden
26. D.Van Winden
27. C.Vermeltfoort
Movistar
31. V.Kiryienka
32. J.Castroviejo
33. R.Costa
34. I.Gutiérrez
35. J.Herrada
36. J.J.Rojas
37. F.J.Ventoso
Lotto
41. J.Van den Broeck
42. A.Greipel
43. A.Hansen
44. G.Henderson
45. G.Meersman
46. M.Neyens
47. M.Sohrabi
Astana
51. E.Gasparotto
52. B.Božic
53. A.Kashechkin
54. R.Kiserlovski
55. D.Muravyev
56. Y.Nepomnyachshiy
57. S.Ponzi
Sky
61. M.Cavendish
62. D.Appollonio
63. M.Barry
64. M.Hayman
65. D.Pate
66. C.Sutton
67. G.Thomas
Vacansoleil
71. R.Feillu
72. K.Boeckmans
73. B.Markus
74. W.Mol
75. M.Mortensen
76. K.Van Hummel
77. F.Veuchelen
Cofidis
81. L.Duque
82. M.Buffaz
83. S.Dumoulin
84. J.Fouchard
85. J.Ghyselinck
86. L.Á.Maté
87. R.Zingle
Garmin
91. T.Dekker
92. M.Fischer
93. N.Haas
94. M.Kreder
95. A.Rasmussen
96. J.Rathe
97. S.Vanmarcke
RadioShack
101. M.Monfort
102. J.Bakelants
103. D.Bennati
104. M.Irizar
105. G.Nizzolo
106. G.Rast
107. J.Sergent
Euskaltel
111. E.Martínez
112. V.Cabedo
113. G.Izagirre
114. I.Izagirre
115. J.J.Oroz
116. R.Pérez
117. P.Urtasun
Farnese Vini
121. E.Favilli
122. R.Andriato
123. A.Balloni
124. P.De Negri
125. O.Gatto
126. L.Giordani
127. A.Guardini
Acqua & Sapone
131. C.Betancur
132. P.Ciavatta
133. D.Di Luca
134. F.Ginanni
135. S.Masciarelli
136. D.Napolitano
137. F.Reda
BMC
141. G.Hincapie
142. A.Blythe
143. S.Cummings
144. K.Lodewyck
145. M.Quinziato
146. M.Schär
147. D.Wyss
Lampre
151. G.Bole
152. D.Cimolai
153. D.Hondo
154. D.Kostyuk
155. D.Krivtsov
156. Y.Krivtsov
157. D.Viganò
FDJ
161. S.Casar
162. W.Bonnet
163. D.Boucher
164. S.Chainel
165. M.Ladagnous
166. G.Rasch
167. D.Rollin
Orica
171. M.Goss
172. J.Dean
173. L.Durbridge
174. J.Keukeleire
175. B.Lancaster
176. J.Mouris
177. S.O'Grady
Argos
181. J.Degenkolb
182. R.Curvers
183. B.De Backer
184. K.De Kort
185. D.Klemme
186. T.Ludvigsson
187. T.Veelers
AG2R
191. M.Elmiger
192. M.Belletti
193. J.Casper
194. M.Chérel
195. K.Goddaert
196. M.Perget
197. A.Ravard
Liquigas
201. D.Oss
202. M.Bodnar
203. F.Canuti
204. T.Dall'Antonia
205. P.Longo Borghini
206. F.Sabatini
207. E.Viviani
Saxo Bank
211. N.Nuyens
212. J.J.Haedo
213. K.Klostergaard
214. K.Kroon
215. T.Miyazawa
216. M.Mørkøv
217. L.Roberts
Astana:
Gasparotto and Kiserlovski share the leader's burden here. As we have a little sponsor goal saying we have to win a stage here, they have to ride aggressively and achieve it at the hilly stages. Another hot shot might be Bozic, but with a strong show-up of sprinters, it won't be easy-going to get that stage win in a bunch sprint. Kashechkin and Nepomnyachshiy are supporting the main riders for the hills and the GC, Ponzi will protect Bozic and get him in the best possible position at a sprint finish. Simone might be allowed to ride on his own if he shows himself stronger than Bozic. Muravyev will be supporting the team everywhere, as he is strong in every terrain.
The opponents
This is going to be tough. Riders like Van den Broeck, Kiryienka and Freire might dominate once we are hitting the hilly stages and are strong opponents, though Gasparotto/Kiserlovski might be able to beat them.
As the hilly stages are not that hard and there are way more flat stages, the quantity of sprinters riding here is far more important. With Cavendish, Greipel (who might get the only record winner of the TDU if he wins the overall again), Goss and Freire competiting, it seems like most of the topsprinters are racing here. As the hills are survivable for sprinters, they also might be contenders for the overall.
First stage this night/tomorrow!
Edited by janne_837 on 07-08-2012 21:17
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 08-08-2012 13:23
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Hope the team has a great time in Australia |
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| TomC |
Posted on 08-08-2012 13:31
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Very nice presentation and nice team to play with, this should be very good story, good luck |
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