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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:41
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I got the game on Ebay for fun, and I have to say, it's great overall.
The Gui is great,, and I like the management part as well as getting secondary sponsors to back up your team. It's okay to use training camps, because the AI can do it too, which makes sense it being 2004  ( )
Databases are hard to get, but I found a good one. You better too, unless you want the Tour to be decided between Lunce Niilstrung and Jen Ullrach.
The scale is different. Instead of the 50-85 matrix, it's (I think) 40-90, 50 points, which makes it unfamiliar yet simpler. Of course they could just make it 50-100.
You can't make a sprint train do to the fact that you are not allowed to sprint-follow until 3km left, which sucks, but most sprints are a free for all anyway.
There is no DB editor, and even the good databases do not carry real race names for some reason. So unfortunetly the TDF is called the "French Tour".
You can set training, and it will give you exact percentages to how far a rider is to getting a stat higher. You must set dates for two fitness peaks throughout the season 10 weeks apart. For example Armstrong's are the Alpe d'Huez TT and the TT World Championships.
You can also get leaders jersey packs on PCM Benelux, wich has a manual I can't understand written by Cruetrue. Oh, and there is liscensed equipment, nad it may be a placebo, but it actually seems to have a slight effect.
I have yet to play a mountain stage, but flat stages are pretty realistic besides the sprint ytrain thing as far as breaks being caught and such goes.
The commentary has a different announcer, who I like better, but exactly the same lines, if not more than in 11, which makes me wonder why Cyanide haven't at least added a few. To add to the nice audio is a decent soundtrack made up of actual musicinstead of the Beeps and bops at least I'm accustomed too, which is a great feature, even if the music isn't, because it's an improvement.
The graphics are not that much worse in terms of backrounds. (Obviously rider textures are horribe like in PCM 06) However, they go much easier on your computer, and I can enjoy the game on maximum setting on my PC which can take next to nothing on PCM 11.
It's also fun to play World cup and have early season transfers. These old UCI customs are great to relive for a while since the UCI had to screw them up. Scouting is almost the same as 11 exept regions are boundaries instead of dots, which I actually like better.
Overall its agreat game. Let me know what you think. Feel free to ask questions about it if you want.  Of course most people here probably already have it and this is pointless but whatever.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 25-07-2012 02:26
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:46
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Well, I've never played it, so I'm just leaving a comment for this: wth is "Alpe Deux Huez"?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:47
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Well, I've never played it, so I'm just leaving a comment for this: wth is "Alpe Deux Huez"?
What Alpe d'Huez is called in the game.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:49
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Ok, but I've seen you name it like that in other threads, so that's no excuse I don't know if that's an alternative name for it, but if it is it's weird and I've never seen it (in fact, "Deux" means two in French I think, so it doesn't make much sense)
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:51
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Ok, but I've seen you name it like that in other threads, so that's no excuse I don't know if that's an alternative name for it, but if it is it's weird and I've never seen it (in fact, "Deux" means two in French I think, so it doesn't make much sense)
hey, I had never noticed the spelling much until (P)CM.
It's becaus eit is located in Les Deux Alps.
Edited by baseballlover312 on 25-07-2012 13:54
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| markene2 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:57
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I always loved CyM4, it's the Pcm/Cym game i play the most, it just never stops being fun at the Carrer mode. Glad to see someone else that is enjoying it, oh for databases you should check out the bdb forum (not ppdb, but bdb).
Happy gaming
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 01:59
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I got a DB eventually on PCM Benelux, but thanks, I'll look.
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 25-07-2012 02:18
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CyM4 was my first ever cycling game. I played it for 2-3 months before I realized my game was outdated by 3 years.  I didn't know much about cycling then.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 13:51
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Mresuperstar wrote:
CyM4 was my first ever cycling game. I played it for 2-3 months before I realized my game was outdated by 3 years. I didn't know much about cycling then.
Nice one. Well, PCM 11 was my first. I always dreamed of a cycling game and wondered why there wasn't one, only to know I could have gotten it 10 years already. 
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| ruben |
Posted on 25-07-2012 13:59
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There is a lot of strange things in your story.
I've played CyM4 up till 2007 (because I liked the AI). And the custom databases do all have real names. You probably didn't put the DB in the right folder. And most DB's in that time REPLACED the officialrelease.cdb file.
As for no DB editors: there was the CyMFast editor in CyM4 as well as the CDB exporter (a very old and worse version of something like the full editor), which exported 5 tables to TXT file. You can use the FULL Editor for CyM4 though, just tick the local.cdb box and you can edit every table...
The AI does not use training camps, except the pre-season ones. But it doesn't use mountain etc camps so it's still a cheat if you do.
You don't need sprint trains either. You can ride through riders after all, so all you need to do is move up in the peloton just before the sprint. All AI sprinters do the same, and sprints in CyM4 are therefore easy that way.
The tactics in mountains, hilly classics and cobbled classics are easy anyway. own effort 99 for the win
AI is pretty decent. Actually CyM4 was one of the first cycling managers where the AI was really good for most parts. |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 14:13
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Well, I'm still in February, so I didn't know about the camps.
I looked up "database editor Cycling manager 4" and it gave me PCM editors from here.
My database does have real names, but not races. I don't know why, the DB is there and works ,but none I've gotten have real race names.
About the sprints, thanks.
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| ruben |
Posted on 25-07-2012 14:39
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Do not fear the dot 99 |
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| jsh312mufc |
Posted on 25-07-2012 14:41
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I have cycling manager 2 |
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| ruben |
Posted on 25-07-2012 15:27
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I have
Demarrage (very crappy cycling game with 3 grand tours and teams of 5 riders)
Eurotour (real time cycling game with fantastic mods, but old graphics)
Cycling Manager 1, 2, 3 and 4
PCM 1, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
Only don't own PCM 2012 yet. Doubt it's worth the money atm |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 25-07-2012 15:48
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I have:
Cycling Manager 3 and 4, PCM 2005-2012
And the one i had the best wow-moment with in terms of improvment and such, was pcm 2006. I did buy the game just to have it, since i got a small collection of them now.
CM 04 was an ok game, but i was to young to understand it proberly back then. But after reading this i might just install it again and give it another go.
Edited by hillis91 on 25-07-2012 15:53
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 26-07-2012 22:29
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hillis91 wrote:
I have:
Cycling Manager 3 and 4, PCM 2005-2012
And the one i had the best wow-moment with in terms of improvment and such, was pcm 2006. I did buy the game just to have it, since i got a small collection of them now.
CM 04 was an ok game, but i was to young to understand it proberly back then. But after reading this i might just install it again and give it another go.
I recomend you do.
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| Trout80 |
Posted on 27-07-2012 19:10
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I think I have CM4, PCM 2005, PCM 2006 and PCM 2007 which now seems to best of those. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 27-07-2012 19:21
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I wouldn't buy CyM4, because... I own it. Just like I own CyM2, 3, PCM 2005, 2006, 2007.
CyM4 was some sort of golden age, I believe. It was fourth version of the game, and the graphics had became quite ok for the time (not very different from CyM3, arguably), the A.I. was the best or close to the best, of the versions I've played (maybe not the most sophisticated, but simple and efficient enough to look realistic).
With a good D.B. the game was really enjoyable.
There was also a great feeling of community at Cyanide at the time (that was before most national or language community were founded), Cyanide still had a friendly behaviour, etc. DB were great (no idea what they're today).
It reached a peak at that moment, and I felt it faded afterwards. PCM 2007 being the breaking point for me. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-07-2012 19:24
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I recognize your story Aquarius. But for me personally PCM really picked up again after PCM 2009 and PCM 2011. They still have their flaws but especially PCM 11 comes very close to being a realistic cycling game. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 27-07-2012 19:28
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I have been thinking about playing PCM 06 again. Such a great game, and although different and harder than what I'm used to, it was very fun. The Giant made it so much better too, although I dislike the career layout and the game doesn't work great on my computer for some reason.
2008 was my favourite game though. It may not be the best, but I had the best memories. It was my first PCM game, and I learned about so much. I didn't really know a lot about cycling, so when I saw all the races, my scope drastically changed. Plus its the only game I played for 2 years straight, and I literally played it every day too.
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