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Vuelta a Mallorca Discussion
SportingNonsense
Next up on the calendar is the Vuelta a Mallorca, making it's ManGame return after a year of absence. 2 flat stages followed by the key hill stage, and then a final flat stage with plenty of hills. And looking at the startlist, it is good news for many who are here - as C1 startlists go, this is probably one of the weaker!

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Despite no uphill finishes, the race favourite has to be i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/qst.png Chris Froome. Off the back of a great Tour of Oman, he will hope to continue his team's form. He himself is going well, winning up Willunga Hill in the Tour Down Under - although he could not quite convert that into an overall race victory.

Big rival will be i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.png Cesare di Maggio. He only took 9th overall in 2012, but he was much better in many other races that season. This marks the debut of his return to this level.

Race favourite number 3 is i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/fcb.png Carlos Betancourt. The Colombian started his season with 9th overall at the Tour Down Under.

Now, there are 18 PCT/CT riders with a 78+ Hill stat. Remarkably, the above are the only 3 of those 18 here! What an opportunity this therefore becomes for some of the next tier of riders on 77 or 76 hill. i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/afr.png Hategaka, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/bac.png Bilbao, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/fcb.png Lejman, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/csc.png Cobo, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/gzl.png Weening, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/met.png Rabon, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pbn.png Konovalovas and i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/qst.png Serry.

Team leaders such as i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/kap.png Anza, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ken.png Wegmann, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/mac.png Becerra, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/sbp.png Hermans, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/rbc.png Durasek and Continental rankings leader i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/vtb.png Wyss could all fancy their chances of a Top 10 spot too, if they can ride a good race.

Moving onto sprinters then. 47 PCT/CT riders have a sprint stat of 79 or higher. How many of them are here? Just 7!

Leading the way is i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/rbc.png Romain Vanderbiest. The Frenchman has won GT stages, so has every rider to be confident, especially with i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/rbc.png Mitch Docker as a leadout man.

But he is not the only 'Rom' hoping to do well here. The enigmatic i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/afr.png Roman Maksimov lines up, and he has an equally strong leadout rider i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/afr.png Saulo Lay, and a better number 3 in i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/afr.png Hector Hugo Rangel. The Russian Rocket was a strong 4th in the Down Under Classic compared to Vanderbiest's 13th - but can he cope with the hillier course?

Just behind Maksimov down under was i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/mac.png Raul Granjel Cabrera. Like Vanderbiest, he has won GT stages but moved to PCT after his team disbanded. Will he be handicapped by the lack of a strong leadout? Can he benefit from being stronger over the hills?

Contender number 4 is i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/ven.png Claudio Corioni for his first race of the season. His support is even more nonexistant than at Mobil though.

Hornbach have got a good double attack of i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/hrc.png Anthony Lavoine and i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/hrc.png Francesco Gavazzi. The latter inparticular should go well on Stage 4. More sprinters on the lineup means they could have a powerful leadout train - but Lavoine may not be strong enough for the game to give him one!

Last year's star rider i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/met.png Nolan Hoffman lines up here too, while other sprinters to watch are i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/vtb.png Fonseca, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/kap.png Cucinotta, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/pbn.png Cardoso, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/csc.png Anton Martin, i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/qst.png Coquard and i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/alp.png Angarita.

All of the above assumes we will get 3 sprints and a puncheur battle though. As we have seen instead this season, breakaways have been quite common. This could be good news for i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq112/Gustavovskiy/microjerseys14/eub.png Euskaltel on their season debut - as the only team to not have a rider mentioned as a contender for any of the stages!

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Previous Edition

On Stage 2 of 2012, i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/csc.png Roman Maksimov's Spanish leadout man left him in the lead with 1km to go.

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Yet he could only finish 11th, with i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/saab.png Thor Hushovd winning instead. Project: Africa will hope a similar Spanish lead out/Maksimov combination does better this time.

The rest of the race saw three hill stages that all ultimately ended downhill / on the flat. Stage 3 was the key stage, and two Spaniards dueled it out: i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/calgiant.png Samuel Sanchez and i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/proximus.png Alejandro Valverde. Sanchez won, but did not take the race lead.

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On Stage 4 though, Sanchez took 2nd behind i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/pirelli.png Roche, and with i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/Venchi.png Di Maggio taking the remaining bonus seconds it moved him into the race lead. And he secured the GC win after another Sanchez, i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/Cerne.png Luis Leon, won the final stage.

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Of this year's field, i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc512/ANFreeman/Jersey%20Sprites/unicredit.png Weening was 4th, Di Maggio 9th, Wyss 13th, Hermans 19th and Cobo 20th.

1Samuel Sánchez GonzalezCalifornia Giant Berry Farms-Specialized18h44'34
2Alejandro ValverdeProximus - Trek+ 12
3Luis Leon Sanchez GilCerne+ 1'04
4Pieter WeeningUniCredit+ 1'20
5Aleksandr KolobnevT.CS Bank - OJSC+ 1'34
6David De la FuenteTeam Bianchi+ 1'46
7Marco MarzanoVolksWagen - Siemenss.t.
8Nicolas RochePirelli - Alfa Romeo+ 2'05
9Cesare Di MaggioTeam Venchi ProCycling+ 2'17
10Maxim BelkovT.CS Bank - OJSC+ 2'45
11Rui CostaTeam CSC-Orbea+ 2'47
12Jérôme PineauTeam WWEs.t.
13Marcel WyssSaab - Scanias.t.
14Cristiano SalernoFerrari - ERGs.t.
15John-Lee AugustynEmu Exports.t.
16Sylvain CalzatiJayco - Red Bulls.t.
17Ryder HesjedalTeam Rothaus - Aegons.t.
18Francis De GreefTeam Bpost+ 3'59
19Ben HermansTeam Rothaus - Aegon+ 4'49
20Juan José CoboTeam Bianchis.t.

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jt1109
Got to have a chance with Vanderbiest here to hopefully get a first win of the season but i fear Granjel Cabrera in these sprints hopefully a good leadout from Docker/Torckler will be enough.
 
Kami
Looking at the field, a top 10 should definitely be manageable, hoping for a top 5 even with some luck.

Nice preview & looking forward to the reports!
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aidanvn13
Okay, with this weakish feel we're hoping to cash in big time. Maksimov is our big hope for stage 1 (maybe stage 2). A win will be terrific. Hategeka has got his chance to shine now and is coming off of good form from Tour of South Africa where he finished 10th against some strong competition. For the final stage, we've got Rangel who can out climb most other sprinters with his 69Mo and 66Hill - so hopefully the pace is relatively tough up those slopes.

So, a stage win and Top 5 GC is our goal for this race! Let's get down to scoring some points after a disappointing Tour of SA and Tour of Oman! Grin

Thanks for the nice, in-depth preview SN Wink Hopefully Maksimov can improve from an 11th place Pfft
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fjhoekie
As I said in my HQ I should've brought Greipel here...

Konovalovas could get another top 10 here, which is our only goal for this race.
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Margh Norway
Great, detailed race preview!

Even with a more unexperienced team Marcel Wyss seems to be in the shape to repeat 2012th result (13th with Saab - Scania). He pleasantly anticipates the challenge.
Sending our best sprinter could turn out a lucky find. Hardly scoring on C2 level Armindo Fonseca's chances at Mallorca aren't worse.
 
cio93
Hmmm...another race where some opponents will score comparably huge, and certainly one I would've subscribed to if there were any spare race days to have Kelderman lead in...

I somehow doubt stage 3 has a mo/hill-ratio of 0 or close to that, which would rule Di Maggio out of the fight for the win a bit.

Will follow this closely to mourn our further downfall through the rankings with Middle East and Strade Bianche not likely to make up any of the losses in the near future. Frown

 
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Mresuperstar
Maksimov in a CSC-Orbea jersey... I can hardly remember those days.

Crossing my fingers for a repeat performance from Anton Martin to what he did at Tachira. Other than that Cobo should finish around 5-10 in GC but with the PCM AI so far, who knows what is going to happen.

Great preview SN! Smile
 
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Avin Wargunnson
Great preview!

Very pleased to see that we meet not so packed startlist for the first time, this can turn into nice point haul from rabon/Hoffman duo hopefully. I hope that mountain stats will not hinder chances of Rabon in stage 3 and his acc and sprint will help him to nice result.

Top10 is the goal for Rabon, but top3-5 cant be ruled out, that would be great. Hoffman is without pressure now, as he acknowledged he is noppt a worrld beater, so couple of podiums or top5s can do the job.

Good luck to all, but not much. Grin
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SportingNonsense
Stage 3 rating is 0.2.
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Avin Wargunnson
Ouch, i will pray that Rabon's 69 mountain is enough then. Smile
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aidanvn13
SportingNonsense wrote:
Stage 3 rating is 0.2.


In that case Cobo is probably the most intimidating...
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SportingNonsense
.2 rating looks like:

FroomeChrisQuickstep78.8
Di MaggioCesareVenchi - Ferranti78.6
BetancourtCarlosFCB - Polska77.8
CoboJuan JoséTeam CSC - Orbea76.8
HategekaGasoreProject: Africa76
WeeningPieterGazelle75.4
SerryPieterQuickstep75.4
BilbaoPelloBacardi - Itera 74.8
Rodriguez OliverJoaquinTeam CSC - Orbea74.8
RabonFrantisekMetinvest-Emirates74.6
BecerraEduinMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo74.6
LejmanGracjanFCB - Polska74.6
KonovalovasIgnasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team74.4
DurasekKristijanRBC Pro Cycling74.2
GhisalbertiSergioMetinvest-Emirates73.8
WyssMarcelTeam Vontobel73.8
DidierLaurentFCB - Polska73.6
WegmannFabianTeam Kenya Airways73.4
AnzaSantoKappa - ENI73.2
BosisioGabrieleKappa - ENI73.2

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DubbelDekker
Cool preview!

Indeed a relatively weak line-up. Shock Looks like I can actually hope for a Weening top 5! And we have no one who can sprint here, so in the flat stages I want to join some breakaways.
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aidanvn13
Hategeka for Top 5 or even a podium it is! Grin
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ggDonovan
SportingNonsense wrote:
.2 rating looks like:

Spoiler
FroomeChrisQuickstep78.8
Di MaggioCesareVenchi - Ferranti78.6
BetancourtCarlosFCB - Polska77.8
CoboJuan JoséTeam CSC - Orbea76.8
HategekaGasoreProject: Africa76
WeeningPieterGazelle75.4
SerryPieterQuickstep75.4
BilbaoPelloBacardi - Itera 74.8
Rodriguez OliverJoaquinTeam CSC - Orbea74.8
RabonFrantisekMetinvest-Emirates74.6
BecerraEduinMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo74.6
LejmanGracjanFCB - Polska74.6
KonovalovasIgnasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team74.4
DurasekKristijanRBC Pro Cycling74.2
GhisalbertiSergioMetinvest-Emirates73.8
WyssMarcelTeam Vontobel73.8
DidierLaurentFCB - Polska73.6
WegmannFabianTeam Kenya Airways73.4
AnzaSantoKappa - ENI73.2
BosisioGabrieleKappa - ENI73.2


Grrr... I was going to post the same Pfft

Well, I will do another thing, how the hill/mo rating affects to the attribute (hill vs hill/mo) compared to the oposition:

Juan José CoboTeam CSC - Orbea22,22%
Carlos BetancourtFCB - Polska16,67%
Joaquin Rodriguez OliverTeam CSC - Orbea11,11%
Chris FroomeQuickstep11,11%
Pieter SerryQuickstep10,00%
Pieter WeeningGazelle10,00%
Eduin BecerraMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo7,78%
Gabriele BosisioKappa - ENI6,67%
Yusuke HatanakaMeiji - Cannondale3,33%
Laurent DidierFCB - Polska2,22%
Kristijan DurasekRBC Pro Cycling1,11%
Frantisek RabonMetinvest-Emirates-3,33%
Cesare Di MaggioVenchi - Ferranti-3,33%
Marcel WyssTeam Vontobel-5,56%
Ignas KonovalovasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team-6,67%
Pello BilbaoBacardi - Itera -11,11%
Fabian WegmannTeam Kenya Airways-12,22%
Gracjan LejmanFCB - Polska-14,44%
Santo AnzaKappa - ENI-15,56%
Ben HermansSwedbank-PEAB-22,22%

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aidanvn13
ggDonovan wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
.2 rating looks like:

Spoiler
FroomeChrisQuickstep78.8
Di MaggioCesareVenchi - Ferranti78.6
BetancourtCarlosFCB - Polska77.8
CoboJuan JoséTeam CSC - Orbea76.8
HategekaGasoreProject: Africa76
WeeningPieterGazelle75.4
SerryPieterQuickstep75.4
BilbaoPelloBacardi - Itera 74.8
Rodriguez OliverJoaquinTeam CSC - Orbea74.8
RabonFrantisekMetinvest-Emirates74.6
BecerraEduinMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo74.6
LejmanGracjanFCB - Polska74.6
KonovalovasIgnasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team74.4
DurasekKristijanRBC Pro Cycling74.2
GhisalbertiSergioMetinvest-Emirates73.8
WyssMarcelTeam Vontobel73.8
DidierLaurentFCB - Polska73.6
WegmannFabianTeam Kenya Airways73.4
AnzaSantoKappa - ENI73.2
BosisioGabrieleKappa - ENI73.2


Grrr... I was going to post the same Pfft

Well, I will do another thing, how the hill/mo rating affects to the attribute (hill vs hill/mo) compared to the oposition:

Spoiler
Juan José CoboTeam CSC - Orbea22,22%
Carlos BetancourtFCB - Polska16,67%
Joaquin Rodriguez OliverTeam CSC - Orbea11,11%
Chris FroomeQuickstep11,11%
Pieter SerryQuickstep10,00%
Pieter WeeningGazelle10,00%
Eduin BecerraMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo7,78%
Gabriele BosisioKappa - ENI6,67%
Yusuke HatanakaMeiji - Cannondale3,33%
Laurent DidierFCB - Polska2,22%
Kristijan DurasekRBC Pro Cycling1,11%
Frantisek RabonMetinvest-Emirates-3,33%
Cesare Di MaggioVenchi - Ferranti-3,33%
Marcel WyssTeam Vontobel-5,56%
Ignas KonovalovasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team-6,67%
Pello BilbaoBacardi - Itera -11,11%
Fabian WegmannTeam Kenya Airways-12,22%
Gracjan LejmanFCB - Polska-14,44%
Santo AnzaKappa - ENI-15,56%
Ben HermansSwedbank-PEAB-22,22%

You've added Hatanka instead of using Hategeka Wink
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ggDonovan
aidanvn13 wrote:
ggDonovan wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
.2 rating looks like:

Spoiler
FroomeChrisQuickstep78.8
Di MaggioCesareVenchi - Ferranti78.6
BetancourtCarlosFCB - Polska77.8
CoboJuan JoséTeam CSC - Orbea76.8
HategekaGasoreProject: Africa76
WeeningPieterGazelle75.4
SerryPieterQuickstep75.4
BilbaoPelloBacardi - Itera 74.8
Rodriguez OliverJoaquinTeam CSC - Orbea74.8
RabonFrantisekMetinvest-Emirates74.6
BecerraEduinMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo74.6
LejmanGracjanFCB - Polska74.6
KonovalovasIgnasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team74.4
DurasekKristijanRBC Pro Cycling74.2
GhisalbertiSergioMetinvest-Emirates73.8
WyssMarcelTeam Vontobel73.8
DidierLaurentFCB - Polska73.6
WegmannFabianTeam Kenya Airways73.4
AnzaSantoKappa - ENI73.2
BosisioGabrieleKappa - ENI73.2


Grrr... I was going to post the same Pfft

Well, I will do another thing, how the hill/mo rating affects to the attribute (hill vs hill/mo) compared to the oposition:

Spoiler
Juan José CoboTeam CSC - Orbea22,22%
Carlos BetancourtFCB - Polska16,67%
Joaquin Rodriguez OliverTeam CSC - Orbea11,11%
Chris FroomeQuickstep11,11%
Pieter SerryQuickstep10,00%
Pieter WeeningGazelle10,00%
Eduin BecerraMobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo7,78%
Gabriele BosisioKappa - ENI6,67%
Yusuke HatanakaMeiji - Cannondale3,33%
Laurent DidierFCB - Polska2,22%
Kristijan DurasekRBC Pro Cycling1,11%
Frantisek RabonMetinvest-Emirates-3,33%
Cesare Di MaggioVenchi - Ferranti-3,33%
Marcel WyssTeam Vontobel-5,56%
Ignas KonovalovasPrivatbank - Nemiroff Professional Cycling Team-6,67%
Pello BilbaoBacardi - Itera -11,11%
Fabian WegmannTeam Kenya Airways-12,22%
Gracjan LejmanFCB - Polska-14,44%
Santo AnzaKappa - ENI-15,56%
Ben HermansSwedbank-PEAB-22,22%

You've added Hatanka instead of using Hategeka Wink


FAIL! I will fix it later Wink
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jph27
Don't send Gautier they said. It'll be a stacked startlist they said...

Great preview SN, best of luck to the teams who aren't likely to threaten my top 5 placing. Wink
 
Smowz
Looking at the various tables - I think Cobo may win.

Not Froome coz of Jaguar-Dowsett sux disease

Not Di Maggio coz I h8 Di Maggio.

Cobo I think as he is Spanish he just will have that extra buzz.
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