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Tour of the Battenkill - Discussion
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Tour of the Battenkill (PTHC) - Discussion


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Welcome to the US of A for the PTHC cobbled classic Tour of the Battenkill! The last two winners are back for a duel to reclaim the throne here, but there are always more sharks in the pond looking to win this race for the first time as well. Let's have a look at the profile.

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Enough cobbles to make a difference, and several of them on an uphill sector as well. Being okay uphill certainly helps, and that is a factor that we can spot looking at the last two winners. Let's have a look at the best cobblers at the startline tomorrow.

Nat.NameFLHISTRSCBSPAC
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Per David79707475827474
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Wisniowski Lukasz79707475827275
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Senechal Florian75677974826974
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Kamyshev Arman76648074816559
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Sulimov Alexander73707771796571
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Gaday Lucas Manuel71757572787173
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Owen Logan73697371786471
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Zubov Matvey67626867786067
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Girmay Biniam76717475777676
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Ulloa Jose Gerardo72707372776868
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Kortsidakis Michail77697575776872
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Boros Michael73737369776466
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Stavrakakis Georgios76687470776468
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Meiler Lukas74747270776371
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Taubel Christoph72646771776062
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Lampaert Yves74657271775959
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Manamalage Nipuna Shira81597164775756
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Kuroeda Shiki72707677767673
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Benoot Tiesj71817574766971


Allow me to say this is not the strongest startlist at a PTHC cobbled race this season. Last year's winner pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Per and the winner of the two editions before that, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Wisniowski, will start as the big favourites. Their biggest rival should be pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Senechal, as Tinkoff come here with some great strength in numbers, hoping to keep their title dreams alive.

Already theoretically clearly a step behind the three best cobblers we see pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Gaday for Zara. The Argentinian clearly the second best puncheur on the list though, let's see if that can help him finish on the podium tomorrow. Other 78 cobblers include other former Strava rider pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Owen and Kraftwerk's pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Zubov, but I fear the lack of other skills will cost Zubov tomorrow.

Because of the startlist not being that strong, a larger group of 77 cobblers is dreaming of a top-10 tomorrow. Looking at the puncheur and physical stats, guys like pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Ulloa, pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Boros and pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Kortsidakis are the ones to watch. Guys like Girmay definitely strong as well, but it remains to be seen in what kind of role he rides for Assa, with the same being true for Carlsberg's Meiler as well. One name that definitely deserves a mention as well is pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Benoot. He's shown he loves races like this in the past, and perhaps the Sony rider can cause a real upset tomorrow as well.

Enjoy the race!

Startlist in spoiler.

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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Wisniowski Lukasz
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Girmay Biniam
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Taubel Christoph
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Blume Levy William
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Renard Alexis
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Kaloniatis Georgios
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Konychev Alexander
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/aab.png Kolev Yoan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Bonello Daniel
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Bdadou Youssef
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Martino Stan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Sprenger Felix
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Aquilani Andrea
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Onley Oscar
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Borg Luke
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/bbc.png Jele Kwanele
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Per David
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Meiler Lukas
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Bolivar Isaac
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Resell Erik Nordsaeter
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Matsangos Alexandros
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Cannister Goldwijnn
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Finkst Tilen
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/cdb.png Vainio Veeti
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Ballerini Davide
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Buttigieg Aidan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Antonijevic Goran
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Dujardin Sandy
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Zukowsky Nickolas
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Hansen Lasse Norman
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/yor.png Skaarseth Anders
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Kortsidakis Michail
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Stavrakakis Georgios
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Boutopoulos Georgios
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Miltiadis Andreas
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Varotsos Ioannis
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Mugisha Samuel
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Christakos Dimitrios
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/elc.png Niu Yikui
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Owen Logan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Sanogo Abou
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Chokri El Mehdi
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Russo Clement
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Jurado Cristofer Robin
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Sagiv Guy
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Mraouni Salah Eddine
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/isa.png Andersen Idar
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Zubov Matvey
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png De Buyst Jasper
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png McLay Dan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Uhlig Henri
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Mathis Marco
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Helme Sasu
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Hofstede Lennard
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/kmm.png Tesfom Sirak
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Vermeersch Gianni
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Stewart Jake
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Basso Leonardo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Van der Poel Mathieu
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Baterdene Narankhuu
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Pons Gaetan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Bakke Christophersen Cedric
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ldl.png Hoang Thai Phan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Suter Joel
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Piccolo Andrea
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Covi Alessandro
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Vandenabeele Henri
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Benedetti Gabriele
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Fedeli Alessandro
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lpu.png Mareczko Jakub
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Lampaert Yves
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Merlier Tim
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Sarreau Marc
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Yzeiraj Marildo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png De Pooter Dries
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Villella Davide
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Nuha Blerton
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/llv.png Demiri Mikel
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pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lot.png Price-Pejtersen Johan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/lot.png Lovidius Edvin
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Samudio Joseph Ivan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Arias Villanueva Sergio
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Peden George
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Cepeda Jefferson Alexander
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Mendoza Bryan Fernando
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Granados Kevin
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Bulux Fredy Domingo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mcy.png Rojas Gabriel Francisco
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png De Witte Mathias
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png Dressler Luca
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png Guavita Cesar David
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png Brown Nathan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png Casillas Jhonatan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png Paleni Enzo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/min.png Gomez Fausto Agustin
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Boros Michael
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Skala Jakub
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Atkins Josh
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Otruba Jakub
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Monsalve Yonathan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Hosek Josef
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Kolar Michael
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/mos.png Parra Bustamente Heiner Rodrigo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Ulloa Jose Gerardo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Eaton Daniel
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Vlatos Panagiotis
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Abolaji Fatiu
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Pira Yesid Albeiro
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Parashchak Yaroslav
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Merchan Didier
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/oxf.png Healy Ben
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Kuroeda Shiki
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Benoot Tiesj
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Kooistra Marten
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Van Dijke Mick
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Van Dijke Tim
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Trezise Declan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Singh Ronaldo Laitonjam
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/sfi.png Hocevar Kristjan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Kulppi Olli
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Manakov Viktor
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Breen Vegard
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Nielsen Joanis Albert
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Kaislavuo Jesse
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Eriksson Lucas
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Fjellheim Henrik Teslo
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/taf.png Wandahl Frederik
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Manamalage Nipuna Shira
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Ponomar Andrii
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Sitchinava Nika
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Fratczak Radoslaw
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Petrov Yordan
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Kachur Dmytro
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Bilyi Maksym
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/p4e.png Golovash Oleksandr
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Senechal Florian
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Kamyshev Arman
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Sulimov Alexander
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Syritsa Gleb
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Tikhonin Evgenii
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Yatsevich Kiril
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Igoshev Egor
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/tti.png Gonov Lev
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Gaday Lucas Manuel
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png De La Cruz Chapulin Luis Fernando
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Stuyven Jasper
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Finkler Leonardo Henrique
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Sam Henry Alberto
pcmdaily.com/images/mg/2024/Micros/ziz.png Blanca Pareja Nichol
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Luis Leon Sanchez
Although our destination for next season is pretty much certain, it would be nice to end on a high with a big performance from Gaday who is certain of capable of fighting in the Top 5.
 
Laurens147
Curious to see how Marzuki goes in this field Smile

Thanks Nemo for the preview!
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All eyes on Tinkoff. If they want to overtake Gazelle, this is the best opportunity
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DubbelDekker
Oh dear, those three Tinkoff jerseys in the top five cobblers look pretty concerning to me. And also the fact that there are hardly any 80, 79 and 78 COB rated riders behind to challenge them.

Yes, Senechal and Kamychev might have some trouble with the hills. But to prevent a big Tinkoff score they would need to get beaten by a bunch of 77 cobblers with slightly better puncheur skills. Not sure that is realistic.

Fingers crossed though.
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An intra-team battle between Battenkill and Rheden to see where we suck less Pfft
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Big opportunity for Tinkoff indeed, in a pretty weak field (compared to Rheden at least). Can't see past Per and Wisniowski for the win, though.

Good luck to all, thanks for the preview! Wish you all the best for Ulloa finally getting a really good result, this could be his race Smile
 
SotD
I guess it would have been wise for me to swap Boutopoulos with Summerhill to get a higher chance of a top 10 result here - but we aimed towards the better punchy cobblers here, and the more flat cobblers in Rheden.

Both races have an outside chance of a top 10, but not the most likely outcome. Let's see what we can get out of these races.
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baseballlover312
Win goal here with a pretty favorable startlist, which naturally means I'm prepared to be disappointed. It's been another fantastic season for Per, so I can't really complain no matter what happens. That said, we have a chance to go 5/5 in goals this year with a win (and enough points—looking at your Meiler), and that would be incredible. Can't be too mad if we lose to Wisniowski or Senechal though. Speaking of the latter, I'm interested to see what Tinkoff are able to do here with their full A-team given the weaker startlist.

Thanks for the preview!
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AbhishekLFC
Benoot had an excellent race last time and we're he can at least get close to the same again. The support team isn't very strong, so it'll be all up to him to fend for himself. Maybe MVD can do something.

Thanks for the preview Smile
 
OlegTinkov
baseballlover312 wrote:
I'm interested to see what Tinkoff are able to do here with their full A-team given the weaker startlist.


Me2 Pfft Thanks for the preview Nemo
 
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SotD
I guess the top of the PT will breathe a sigh of relief here seeing what actually came from those Tinkoff numbers. 126 points is well below what could have been achieved here. Actually it's below what we achieved here!

This result blows my mind! Kortsidakis in 5th and Boutopoulos in 10th is absolutely amazing. The only thing that sucks is the fact that Kortsidakis is 30, and I didn't start his training sooner. Making him from 74 to 77 over the past 3 seasons have been worth every penny. I wonder if making him 80 COB would have been worth much more - but I really wish I had tried. Boutopoulos is another obvious candidate, but being 29 next season he too can only get to 78 at most.

Stavrakakis in 17th here is another solid result to add depth, and fortunately his 77COB can be heavily improved if I feel like it, as he still have 4 more years worth of training.

Overall three brilliant results for us this morning which explodes my expectation. The three races was expected to score us 195 points which was rather high - in the end we come away with a massive 352 points instead. It was much needed though as we can't expect more than 100 points in october. But promotion is officially secured after september!

Thanks a lot for the reports!
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Marcovdw
De Witte with an acceptable 33rd.

Thanks for the reports kb!
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jph27
8th for vdP with two others in the top 30 is a pretty solid result given cobbles aren't generally a strong terrain for us - though to be fair, no terrain has been this season Pfft

Thanks for the report kb and congrats to Sykkel!
 
AbhishekLFC
Benoot did his thing, repeating the podium from last year. Some depth points are also good. We didn't really make up any ground on rivals though.

Congrats to sykkel and thanks for the report kb Smile
 
Laurens147
Marzuki with another great performance, what a pickup in FA Grin

Congrats sykkel with the win and thanks KB for the report! Smile
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DubbelDekker
SotD wrote:

I guess the top of the PT will breathe a sigh of relief here seeing what actually came from those Tinkoff numbers. 126 points is well below what could have been achieved here. Actually it's below what we achieved here!


Big sigh of relief indeed. I was bracing for the possibility of a 300+ point result by Tinkoff here. Now they gain only 34 points on us in this Battenkill/Rheden split.

The Tinkoff-favoured cobbles are behind us and we return to terrain that suits us better. It all comes down to Japan and Lombardy. On paper we should be able to outscore them there. But we still need to deliver.

Congrats Sykkel!
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baseballlover312
Well, looks like Per didn't have that extra gear today unfortunately, and got cooked by Wisniowski when it mattered. It's disappointing only insofar as this was our win goal and we had a legitimate shot to take it. Otherwise, it's a phenomenal race for us! Meiler finally woke up with an incredible ride to snag the podium here on a lesser day for Per. Feels like he's had an underwhelming year overall for his ability, but in this weaker startlist he was able to properly shine and show off his versatility. Add Resell in 13th and the other depth points, and we end up scoring about 250 here—which about what we reasonable could have expected from a win. So, we miss our win goal, but this keeps our top 10 goal alive (at least for now, as the hills left do not suit us).

Congrats to Sykkel and thanks for the report!
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KaiserAdler
Yes! Ten points! Congrats to the winner and thanks for the report Pfft
 
Bjartne
Hehe, 5 x 2pts for minor placements. I guess 10 points was the best we could hope for in such a race. Smile

Congrats SykkelFreak and thank you KandesBunzler for the quality report!
 
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